What happens now that Kyrgios can't use his usual excuse anymore...

New fresh excuse for the Kyrgios?

  • Grass too green > couldn't see the ball

  • Potty wasn't perfect enough

  • Explosive diarrhoea before the match > too many crispy wings from the Nadal

  • Hangover

  • Crowd too loud

  • Crowd not loud enough

  • Too much Call of Duty last night

  • Not enough Call of Duty last night


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pedro94

Semi-Pro
Nick can't use his usual "if I cared enough I'd win much more" bulls**t, after the way he celebrated after beating Tsitsipas yesterday. Judging by his celebration he clearly cares, so which fresh new excuse will the AussieClown use when he looses very soon (likely next round)? Vote and discuss/disgust.. ;)
 
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Deleted member 791948

Guest
Kyrgios has never been able to hide his passion for trying to beat Nadal..... so we know his talent is limited..... we saw at 2019 Wimbledon and 2020 AO when Nadal won 4 straight tiebreakers :happydevil:
 
pedro, Methinks you have absolutely NO understanding of the way Nick's mind works.

He cares enough to play tennis on his own terms. That's basically it. If he changes his mindset in any way shape or form now, he will lose.

He has always said he is happy to win or lose as long as he plays on his own terms. He will continue to play and behave in the same manner he has always done. And he has always done this since he was about 14 years old. If you saw his play when he was 14yo, you would not be the least bit surprised by the way he plays now.
 
Kyrgios has never been able to hide his passion for trying to beat Nadal..... so we know his talent is limited..... we saw at 2019 Wimbledon and 2020 AO when Nadal won 4 straight tiebreakers :happydevil:

LOL. If I was Rafa, I probably wouldn't want to be playing Nick in the form he is in at the moment.

Of course, as Nick himself said earlier today ... a lot of things have to happen before he and Rafa get to meet in a SF.
 
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Slicehand

Guest
Nick can't use his usual "if I cared enough I'd win much more" bulls**t, after the way he celebrated after beating Tsitsipas yesterday. Judging by his celebration he clearly cares, so which fresh new excuse will the AussieClown use when he looses very soon (likely next round)? Vote and discuss/disgust.. ;)
He said at his press conference that what has holded him back in his career was his unwillingness to travel 8 months a year, and that he couldnt play his best tennis consistently in many parts of the year, for what he is totally accountable, not that he didnt try hard enough
 

Bumbaliceps

Professional
There is one interview in which he said it was a mistake to think that he didn't care, because he absolutely hates to lose.
 

pedro94

Semi-Pro
pedro, Methinks you have absolutely NO understanding of the way Nick's mind works.

He cares enough to play tennis on his own terms. That's basically it. If he changes his mindset in any way shape or form now, he will lose.

He has always said he is happy to win or lose as long as he plays on his own terms. He will continue to play and behave in the same manner he has always done. And he has always done this since he was about 14 years old. If you saw his play when he was 14yo, you would not be the least bit surprised by the way he plays now.

Ah I see, my apologies! Do tell, what is it like being Nick's psychologist? ;)
 

Candide

Hall of Fame
"My mind was focus was completely split by the repealing of Roe vs Wade."
 
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USMC-615

Hall of Fame
No further going to the excuse pool needed…my pick Crazy Nick heads to the finals at warp speed from here. And my final matchup of Crazy Nick and Tiafoe is still just as alive as it was from the start of ‘22 Wimbledoom. :D
 

Jokervich

Hall of Fame
To anyone with half a brain, it was always obvious he cared a lot. He used the excuse of "not trying" to protect his ego and protect his image. Deep down though, he cares just as much as the likes of Djokovic and Nadal. He'd desperately love to win a slam, he just knows that his ability level is not good enough for it.
 
Its still odd to me how much time is spent analysing Nick. He doesn’t even win that much! Is it just because he’s Australian and they have a slam? There are much more significant players to dissect. Even Sinner or FAA.
 

vex

Legend
LOL. If I was Rafa, I probably wouldn't want to be playing Nick in the form he is in at the moment.
I don’t think it would be as rough as you’re thinking. Tsits blew a LOT of points last night with really dumb decisions. Nadal would at least make Nick earn it more. Nick would have to keep that FH on fire the whole time. Dunno if he can do it especially against Rafa’s FH.

But you’re right that I don’t think anyone would WANT to play nick over an average non-B3 player. The servebotting is on fire atm.
 
The servebotting is on fire atm.

Imho, this is the main key to Nick's success.

If he comes out and serves big and successful, then he can beat anyone.

The biggest challenge with guys like Rafa and Novak is that they are two of the greatest "Return of Servers" we have ever seen. They won't stand in the same place all the time.

They will try and force Nick to adjust where and how he serves. If Nick gets sucked in by that, he will be toast. If he sticks to his plan and has faith in his ability to serve big, then his chances of winning increase significantly afaic. IT's the old story ...the ONLY shot you can control is your serve. Everything else depends on the the opponent.
 

ibbi

G.O.A.T.
I don't know that he's looking to make excuses? When he was asked about what is holding him back in the presser yesterday he admitted he's not been consistent enough.

The thing you have to remember is that when he goes down he'll likely go down in a blaze, and so he'll be bombarded in his press conference with questions about the drama, and maybe one person will ask him about the match, and he's definitely not above giving credit to his opponent.
 

Bud

Bionic Poster
I don't know that he's looking to make excuses? When he was asked about what is holding him back in the presser yesterday he admitted he's not been consistent enough.

The thing you have to remember is that when he goes down he'll likely go down in a blaze, and so he'll be bombarded in his press conference with questions about the drama, and maybe one person will ask him about the match, and he's definitely not above giving credit to his opponent.
That's just a symptom of the issue.
 

Blahovic

Professional
It's not that he doesn't want to win, it's that he's afraid to put it all on the line and risk failure without an excuse.

All the greats have numerous heartbreaking failures and defeats in their portfolio because it's an inevitable consequence of competing with all you've got at the highest level year-in and year-out.

When Kyrgios loses against a top player at a slam (as he has done for the last 8 years), he always consoles himself with the excuse that really he could have won if he had prepared to the same degree as an opponent. He tells himself the fact he was even competitive is incredible given how lazy he is.
 

fuzz nation

G.O.A.T.
It's not that he doesn't want to win, it's that he's afraid to put it all on the line and risk failure without an excuse.

All the greats have numerous heartbreaking failures and defeats in their portfolio because it's an inevitable consequence of competing with all you've got at the highest level year-in and year-out.

When Kyrgios loses against a top player at a slam (as he has done for the last 8 years), he always consoles himself with the excuse that really he could have won if he had prepared to the same degree as an opponent. He tells himself the fact he was even competitive is incredible given how lazy he is.
Exactly my take you his outlook.
 

travlerajm

Talk Tennis Guru
Nick can't use his usual "if I cared enough I'd win much more" bulls**t, after the way he celebrated after beating Tsitsipas yesterday. Judging by his celebration he clearly cares, so which fresh new excuse will the AussieClown use when he looses very soon (likely next round)? Vote and discuss/disgust.. ;)
St Nick has more than a puncher’s chance to get the job done and advance. He might not need an excuse.
 

a10best

Hall of Fame
Give him a break. He doesn't even play a full schedule. He spends more time with his family and friends and can come in unseeded and play an ATG close. I'm sure that's enough to win over the fans. The same fans who look the other way when his antics disrespects the game, his opponent, and fellow fans.
 

kevaninho

Hall of Fame
Give him a break. He doesn't even play a full schedule. He spends more time with his family and friends and can come in unseeded and play an ATG close. I'm sure that's enough to win over the fans. The same fans who look the other way when his antics disrespects the game, his opponent, and fellow fans.

What ATG are you referring to? And how long ago was this ? Lol
 

vex

Legend
Imho, this is the main key to Nick's success.

If he comes out and serves big and successful, then he can beat anyone.

The biggest challenge with guys like Rafa and Novak is that they are two of the greatest "Return of Servers" we have ever seen. They won't stand in the same place all the time.

They will try and force Nick to adjust where and how he serves. If Nick gets sucked in by that, he will be toast. If he sticks to his plan and has faith in his ability to serve big, then his chances of winning increase significantly afaic. IT's the old story ...the ONLY shot you can control is your serve. Everything else depends on the the opponent.
His first was, frankly, ridiculous in the tsitsipas match. As you said, the key will be not letting the times when Djoker/Rafa hit some unexpected high quality returns get him frustrated and throw him off.

right behind his serve he NEEDS that forehand to be laser sharp. They’ll force him to hit way more forehand putaways and he needs to smash em to have a chance.
 

travlerajm

Talk Tennis Guru
His first was, frankly, ridiculous in the tsitsipas match. As you said, the key will be not letting the times when Djoker/Rafa hit some unexpected high quality returns get him frustrated and throw him off.

right behind his serve he NEEDS that forehand to be laser sharp. They’ll force him to hit way more forehand putaways and he needs to smash em to have a chance.
He needs to start smashing more fh putaways to have a chance against Nakashima.
 
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ChaelAZ

G.O.A.T.
Nick can't use his usual "if I cared enough I'd win much more" bulls**t, after the way he celebrated after beating Tsitsipas yesterday. Judging by his celebration he clearly cares, so which fresh new excuse will the AussieClown use when he looses very soon (likely next round)? Vote and discuss/disgust.. ;)

Have you missed his divergence to racism and more focus on spectators?
 
He needs to start smashing more fh putaways to have a chance against Nakashima.

Funnily enough, it seems his finesse game was what won him the match today. He was smart enough to realise that trying to slug it out with Brandon probably wasn't going to work. So he resorted to the "Rope A Dope" tactic at the end of the 4th and he ended up winning the 5th easily.

Brandon was clearly rattled by Nick basically tanking the last game of the 4th Set. You could see a little bit of shock on his face when he was walking back to the chair for the Set changeover.

Going to be really interesting to see how Nick plays his next match. Garin is probably going to come out all guns blazing. If it turns into a slug-fest, who knows what will happen.
Again, a lot is going to depend on Nick's serving and his touch game.
 

weakera

Talk Tennis Guru
Somehow I think Kyrgios' win over Nadal at Wimbledon means even more to his own self-worth than Rosol, Brown or Darcis wins do to them, even though Kyrgios has achieved more than those guys. It was the highlight of his life, he brings it up constantly, despite the match having so much more to do with Nadal's level than Nick's.
 

darthrafa

Hall of Fame
he does not need any excuse coz his ranking shows how much he cares about success
if he does make excuse, he just wants to make fun of the reporters
 
Somehow I think Kyrgios' win over Nadal at Wimbledon means even more to his own self-worth than Rosol, Brown or Darcis wins do to them, even though Kyrgios has achieved more than those guys. It was the highlight of his life, he brings it up constantly, despite the match having so much more to do with Nadal's level than Nick's.

Remember, he is right when he says he was the first player on his generation to crack the Big 3 in big matches.

As for player level ... you can only play who you play on the day. If you get the win, you get the win. That's the way tennis works. No doubt, Rafa probably looks forward to the challenge of meeting Nick in the SF (if they both make it there). But no doubt that Rafa would probably prefer to play Garin rather than Kyrgios any day of the week.
 
he does not need any excuse coz his ranking shows how much he cares about success
if he does make excuse, he just wants to make fun of the reporters

Some of the Reporters are really stupid. Nick is having a great run at his favourite tournament on his favourite surface.

And one stupid idiot of a reporter who wants his 30 secs of fame is carrying on about Nick wearing a red cap and Air Jordans onto Centre Court.

CHAMPION! LOL.
 

weakera

Talk Tennis Guru
Remember, he is right when he says he was the first player on his generation to crack the Big 3 in big matches.

As for player level ... you can only play who you play on the day. If you get the win, you get the win. That's the way tennis works. No doubt, Rafa probably looks forward to the challenge of meeting Nick in the SF (if they both make it there). But no doubt that Rafa would probably prefer to play Garin rather than Kyrgios any day of the week.

Beating Rafa at Wimbledon during that period was clearly not an impressive achievement. Otherwise Rosol, Darcis and Brown might have achieved anything of note in their entire careers, combined. I'm not *trying* to take something away from Nick but it's good to be honest about the situation.
 
Beating Rafa at Wimbledon during that period was clearly not an impressive achievement. Otherwise Rosol, Darcis and Brown might have achieved anything of note in their entire careers, combined. I'm not *trying* to take something away from Nick but it's good to be honest about the situation.

Beating Rafa at Wimbledon during any period is not an impressive achievement.

His two main rivals. Federer has EIGHT Wimbledon Singles Titles. Djokovic has SIX Wimbledon Singles Titles AND COUNTING! Rafa has TWO! And don't forget, there are others too Sampras and Borg who were very successful there. (And Borg also won 6 RG Titles!)

Rafa is NOT a grass court player. Wimbledon is not his main goal. It might have been when he was young and Toni imposed the significance of the Wimbledon Title upon him. But once he won one title there, the rest don't matter. His focus shifted to Roland Garros. And he has done reasonably well there. LOL.

If peak Nick played peak Rafa 100 times on grass courts in BO5, peak Nick would win at least 70 of those matches. If it was BO3, peak Nick would probably win at least 85 of those matches.
 

Krish0608

G.O.A.T.
Beating Rafa at Wimbledon during any period is not an impressive achievement.

His two main rivals. Federer has EIGHT Wimbledon Singles Titles. Djokovic has SIX Wimbledon Singles Titles AND COUNTING! Rafa has TWO! And don't forget, there are others too Sampras and Borg who were very successful there. (And Borg also won 6 RG Titles!)

Rafa is NOT a grass court player. Wimbledon is not his main goal. It might have been when he was young and Toni imposed the significance of the Wimbledon Title upon him. But once he won one title there, the rest don't matter. His focus shifted to Roland Garros. And he has done reasonably well there. LOL.

If peak Nick played peak Rafa 100 times on grass courts in BO5, peak Nick would win at least 70 of those matches. If it was BO3, peak Nick would probably win at least 85 of those matches.
LMAO. You saw what Rafa did to him in 2019? That was not even prime Rafa. And you are going to see what Oldal is going to do to him on Friday as well. Kyrgios is overrated. He is not as talented as the Big 3 as he would like to think. Just because he beat Rafa in the middle of his Wimbledon slump and beat Novak twice on one of his worst years does not make him a God. He is talented enough to have won a 3-4 slams had he worked harder though. That ship has sailed now. No talk of his hypothetical talent is going to change the trajectory of his career. Nadal just needs to play 80% of his real level to beat a 100% NK on Grass. And I think Rafa can dependably manage that in a semi.
 
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Deleted member 791948

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Nadal will save a lot of energy vs. Kyrgios in the SF, so hope Kyrgios beats Garin :happydevil:
Garin played some of the most physical points of the tournament in that De Minaur match.
 
LMAO. You saw what Rafa did to him in 2019? That was not even prime Rafa. And you are going to see what Oldal is going to do to him on Friday as well. Kyrgios is overrated. He is not as talented as the Big 3 as he would like to think. Just because he beat Rafa in the middle of his Wimbledon slump and beat Novak twice on one of his worst years does not make him a God. He is talented enough to have won a 3-4 slams had he worked harder though. That ship has sailed now. No talk of his hypothetical talent is going to change the trajectory of his career. Nadal just needs to play 80% of his real level to beat a 100% NK on Grass. And I think Rafa can dependably manage that in a semi.

Yes. That sort of thing happens when Nick stays up until 4AM on the morning of the day he played him.

It's situations like that why I said Nick would only beat Rafa 70 times out of 100 on grass. Have to allow for the fact that Nick is a party boy.

In any case, you are only as good as your next match. So let's see how things pan out. Could be good for Nick, could be good for Rafa, could be bad for both!
 
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