What has Becker done for Djokovic's game?

RCizzle65

Hall of Fame
The other previous player coaches are more apparent (Federer/Edberg, Cilic/Ivanisevic, Nishikori/Chang, Raonic/Ljubicic, etc.), but what about Djokovic/Becker? Djokovic himself says its more mental, but he's been pretty shaky mentally throughout the year. Even in his Wimbledon win this year, he almost gave it away. Just wondering if Becker is just taking credit for Djokovic's own work haha.
 

papertank

Hall of Fame
I never understood what Becker was there for in the first place. Maybe to improve his net game? I don't know, and I still don't. But Djokovic is winning everything these days so his coaching choices won't get any heat from me.
 

RCizzle65

Hall of Fame
I think he has come in more, but I don't think the success rate has gotten better at net. He definitely gets comfy coming in in early round matches, but he isn't going to come in playing a top player. Also, he mised a couple of smashes last night against Murray, so he hasn't really improved their either.
 

mad dog1

G.O.A.T.
djokovic is definitely trying to shorten points these days instead of standing there getting into a 50 stroke rally and trying to outlast his opponents. also there were numerous instances during yesterday's QF match vs murray where he s&v'd getting an easy volley at net to putaway. these changes are likely due to becker's influence given how aggressive becker was as a player.
 

Mustard

Bionic Poster
Djokovic hired Becker for his mentality, mostly. Djokovic was getting concerned about losing some big matches.
 
the one stroke nole seems to do better now than 2-3 years ago seems to be the BH slice. it used to be a terrible floating shot and he often got eaten up by murray's slice but yesterday actually won some slice exchanges with him.

not sure if that is due to becker though.
 

Noelan

Legend
the one stroke nole seems to do better now than 2-3 years ago seems to be the BH slice. it used to be a terrible floating shot and he often got eaten up by murray's slice but yesterday actually won some slice exchanges with him.

not sure if that is due to becker though.
+1
And he plays slice a lott more than before, not only in this match with Andy, see him doing that shot at Wimbledone frequently,(not only as defensive shot like Nadal) .
I would add that Novak serve is improved with Boris.
 

abmk

Bionic Poster
BH slice ..

shortening points by coming to the net with a good approach shot instead of staying back and rallying on and on ...
 

ultradr

Legend
More aggressive serving and a bit more aggressive game overall. It makes
sense since his main rival is Nadal now.

However, I have not seen these improvement in US Open this year yet.
He is struggling to find a form.
 

RCizzle65

Hall of Fame
Anyone remember how Djokovic used to play when he won his first slam in 08? Pretty different from now, he was a much flatter hitter and he did come up to net, he was pretty aggressive back then....how did he change so much? It's interesting to see, don't know how a top player like Djokovic changed his game so much from his first slam to now.
 

Noelan

Legend
Anyone remember how Djokovic used to play when he won his first slam in 08? Pretty different from now, he was a much flatter hitter and he did come up to net, he was pretty aggressive back then....how did he change so much? It's interesting to see, don't know how a top player like Djokovic changed his game so much from his first slam to now.


This is called improving the style game in order to be as competitive as possible to his biggest rivals,Nadal- in the first place .
The guy in his earlys twenties saw that such a style of play will not lead him to the best results for which he was capable obviously.Some would say that it is an intelligent decision.Some people don't like it but it seems that for himyself made ​​the best of it.
 
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Djokovic2011

Bionic Poster
I read the question fine. Mentality is a part of the game, also. You should know that. And Djokovic did win Wimbledon, his first major in a year and a half.

The question wasn't 'Why did Djokovic hire Becker?' but rather 'What has Becker done for Djokovic's game? :oops:
 
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Nathaniel_Near

Guest
That is clearly what he was saying.

Sorry, but it's obvious.

Thank you.
 

Mustard

Bionic Poster
So do you think Djokovic's mentality has improved since Becker came on board?

He won Wimbledon, didn't he? That's more than what he's achieved in the majors for well over a year prior to that. He didn't get the French Open title that he badly wants, but to win a major after over a year requires a mental factor. Djokovic brought Becker in for that mental factor, first and foremost, because Djokovic had lost a lot of big matches, to Nadal and Murray, and Federer at 2012 Wimbledon as well.
 
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Nathaniel_Near

Guest
No need to interrupt a discussion between me and Mustard Nathaniel. That's obvious for anyone to see. Not very nice on your part.

Thanks. Have a nice day.

Thanks, sorry but my day has only been OK at best. I can only hope to rectify it in time for the turn of the day.
 

Djokovic2011

Bionic Poster
He won Wimbledon, didn't he? That's more than what he's achieved in the majors for well over a year prior to that. He didn't get the French Open title that he badly wants, but to win a major after over a year requires a mental factor. Djokovic brought Becker in for that mental factor, first and foremost, because Djokovic had lost a lot of big matches, to Nadal and Murray, and Federer at 2012 Wimbledon as well.

No need to go through all the big matches Nole has lost in the last couple of years. As a huge fan I know all this already. That's obvious and you should know that by now.

Thanks.
 
Djok's coming in more to the net, and is also much more comfortable with the slice and hitting it better. Maybe that's due to Becker?
 

underground

G.O.A.T.
Comms said during one of his USO matches that Boris said how he and Djokovic aren't actually friends, as if seeming to imply they don't have a close relationship as to what Federer/Edberg is like. Comms also speculated that Djokovic hired Becker for commercial reasons: getting a former tennis star as a coach could enhance the package and increase popularity, something like a PR boost (which is entirely possible giving the success of Murray/Lendl, but Fedberg was announced soon after Djokovic/Becker which kind of took the spotlight away)
 

Raiden

Hall of Fame
Comms said during one of his USO matches that Boris said how he and Djokovic aren't actually friends, as if seeming to imply they don't have a close relationship as to what Federer/Edberg is like. Comms also speculated that Djokovic hired Becker for commercial reasons: getting a former tennis star as a coach could enhance the package and increase popularity, something like a PR boost (which is entirely possible giving the success of Murray/Lendl, but Fedberg was announced soon after Djokovic/Becker which kind of took the spotlight away)

LMAO This is the definition of bullsh*tting (On what planet is hiring BORIS BECKER a good pr move?

This would be like hiring Radek in order to be the chaperone of your virgin daughter.

Is there any other player than Boris who has appeared more often on scandal section of newspapers?
 

easywin

Rookie
This would be like hiring Radek in order to be the chaperone of your virgin daughter.

Is there any other player than Boris who has appeared more often on scandal section of newspapers?

:):):)
I'm from Germany so I know about it but did he get frontpages in other countries too ?

I don't really buy that all those former pros actually change technique.
A player is not a teacher and there are way better choices to improve the serve or whatever. Maybe it really is about the authority.
If I'd be Murray, I'd rather talk with Lendl about what to think during an important point than with my mom :)
 

underground

G.O.A.T.
LMAO This is the definition of bullsh*tting (On what planet is hiring BORIS BECKER a good pr move?

This would be like hiring Radek in order to be the chaperone of your virgin daughter.

Is there any other player than Boris who has appeared more often on scandal section of newspapers?

I'm not the one saying that. That's what the comms said.

Well hiring Boris definitely raised public awareness more so than just hiring someone relatively unknown.
 
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