What if you switched the age of Federer and Djokovic in their h2h matches?

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Because Federer sucked Djokovic probably wins nearly all if not all the matches, let's say baby Fed shows some magic in one of the matches, h2h is 9-1 to Djokovic.

1. 2006 Monte-Carlo Masters Masters
2. 2006 Davis Cup
3. 2007 Australian Open
4. 2007 Dubai Championships
5. 2007 Canadian Open
6. 2007 US Open
7. 2008 Australian Open
8. 2008 Monte-Carlo Masters Masters
9. 2008 US Open Major
10. 2009 Miami Open Masters
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This is where it starts to get interesting:
11. 2009 Italian Open Masters - 2003 Fed vs 2015 Djokovic, both played well but I give the edge to Djokovic
12. 2009 Cincinnati Masters - it took a GOATing Nalbandian to took out prime Fed, Federer
13. 2009 US Open Major - 2003 Fed vs 2015 Djokovic, Djokovic
14. 2009 Swiss Indoors - edge to Fed but Djokovic didn't even play so hard to tell, Federer
15. 2010 Canadian Open - Federer all the way
16. 2010 US Open - Federer even more
17. 2010 Shanghai Masters - Federer withdrew in 2004 but Djokovic sucked in 2016, I'll give it to Djokovic because he played
18. 2010 Swiss Indoors - both didn't play but I'd take 2004 Fed over 2016 Djokovic, Federer
19. 2010 ATP World Tour Finals - Federer without a doubt
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This is probably where Federer gets the age and probably doesn't lose more than 2-3 matches until Djokovic retires. We'll see what Djokovic does but if the trend continues I'm 100% he wouldn't touch 2005+ Fed on any surface because Fed was so good back then. By the time Federer declines in 2015 Djokovic will be 34 years old himself.
20. 2011 Australian Open
21. 2011 Dubai Championships
22. 2011 Indian Wells Masters Masters
23. 2011 French Open Major
24. 2011 US Open Major
25. 2012 Italian Open Masters
26. 2012 French Open
27. 2012 Wimbledon
28. 2012 Cincinnati
29. 2012 ATP World Tour Finals
30. 2013 Paris Masters
31. 2013 ATP World Tour Finals
32. 2014 Dubai Championships
33. 2014 Indian Wells Masters
34. 2014 Monte-Carlo Masters
35. 2014 Wimbledon
36. 2014 Shanghai Masters
37. 2015 Dubai Championships
38. 2015 Indian Wells Masters
39. 2015 Italian Open Masters
40. 2015 Wimbledon Major
41. 2015 Cincinnati Masters
42. 2015 US Open
43. 2015 ATP World Tour Finals
44. 2015 ATP World Tour Finals
45. 2016 Australian Open

So the h2h would stand at:
9-1 to Djokovic in the first 10 matches
6-3 to Federer in the next 9 matches
23-3 to Federer in the next 26 matches because I'm very generous to Djokovic.

Overall h2h - 30-15 to Federer
Slam h2h - 10-5 to Federer

It wouldn't be nearly as interesting as it was the other way round because Djokovic would've dominated the first 10 matches of the hypothetical rivarly but once a 22-23 year old Federer reached his prime and started facing a 28-29 year old Djokovic on a consistent basis it would've been curtains for Djokovic.
 
tennis_pro said:
Because Federer sucked Djokovic probably wins nearly all if not all the matches, let's say baby Fed shows some magic in one of the matches, h2h is 9-1 to Djokovic.

1. 2006 Monte-Carlo Masters Masters
2. 2006 Davis Cup
3. 2007 Australian Open
4. 2007 Dubai Championships
5. 2007 Canadian Open
6. 2007 US Open
7. 2008 Australian Open
8. 2008 Monte-Carlo Masters Masters
9. 2008 US Open Major
10. 2009 Miami Open Masters
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This is where it starts to get interesting:
11. 2009 Italian Open Masters - 2003 Fed vs 2015 Djokovic, both played well but I give the edge to Djokovic
12. 2009 Cincinnati Masters - it took a GOATing Nalbandian to took out prime Fed, Federer
13. 2009 US Open Major - 2003 Fed vs 2015 Djokovic, Djokovic
14. 2009 Swiss Indoors - edge to Fed but Djokovic didn't even play so hard to tell, Federer
15. 2010 Canadian Open - Federer all the way
16. 2010 US Open - Federer even more
17. 2010 Shanghai Masters - Federer withdrew in 2004 but Djokovic sucked in 2016, I'll give it to Djokovic because he played
18. 2010 Swiss Indoors - both didn't play but I'd take 2004 Fed over 2016 Djokovic, Federer
19. 2010 ATP World Tour Finals - Federer without a doubt
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This is probably where Federer gets the age and probably doesn't lose more than 2-3 matches until Djokovic retires. We'll see what Djokovic does but if the trend continues I'm 100% he wouldn't touch 2005+ Fed on any surface because Fed was so good back then. By the time Federer declines in 2015 Djokovic will be 34 years old himself.
20. 2011 Australian Open
21. 2011 Dubai Championships
22. 2011 Indian Wells Masters Masters
23. 2011 French Open Major
24. 2011 US Open Major
25. 2012 Italian Open Masters
26. 2012 French Open
27. 2012 Wimbledon
28. 2012 Cincinnati
29. 2012 ATP World Tour Finals
30. 2013 Paris Masters
31. 2013 ATP World Tour Finals
32. 2014 Dubai Championships
33. 2014 Indian Wells Masters
34. 2014 Monte-Carlo Masters
35. 2014 Wimbledon
36. 2014 Shanghai Masters
37. 2015 Dubai Championships
38. 2015 Indian Wells Masters
39. 2015 Italian Open Masters
40. 2015 Wimbledon Major
41. 2015 Cincinnati Masters
42. 2015 US Open
43. 2015 ATP World Tour Finals
44. 2015 ATP World Tour Finals
45. 2016 Australian Open

So the h2h would stand at:
9-1 to Djokovic in the first 10 matches
6-3 to Federer in the next 9 matches
23-3 to Federer in the next 26 matches because I'm very generous to Djokovic.

Overall h2h - 30-15 to Federer
Slam h2h - 10-5 to Federer

It wouldn't be nearly as interesting as it was the other way round because Djokovic would've dominated the first 10 matches of the hypothetical rivarly but once a 22-23 year old Federer reached his prime and started facing a 28-29 year old Djokovic on a consistent basis it would've been curtains for Djokovic.
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Djokovic played ok at 28-29.
 
reaper said:
Djokovic played ok at 28-29.
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At 29? Only like 2 or 3 tournaments. He has been below average since the FO.

Besides, that would've happened in 2009 (a 22 year old Federer vs a 28 year old Djokovic). Djokovic wins Rome and the US Open but Federer wins Cincinnati and Basel. Looks fair to me. Once it's a 23 year old Federer vs a 29 year old Djokovic it would've been goodbye for Djokovic given that the first match would've happened in Canada (2016 Djokovic ain't beating 2004 Federer in that tournament). Federer reached his Godmode around mid 2004 and played like that until early 2007. Too long for a declining Djokovic to get more than more than 1 or 2 wins against that version of Federer.

This of course based on what I've seen from Djokovic in the second half of 2016 and what I expect from him in 2017 and beyond.
 
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tennis_pro said:
Because Federer sucked Djokovic probably wins nearly all if not all the matches, let's say baby Fed shows some magic in one of the matches, h2h is 9-1 to Djokovic.

1. 2006 Monte-Carlo Masters Masters
2. 2006 Davis Cup
3. 2007 Australian Open
4. 2007 Dubai Championships
5. 2007 Canadian Open
6. 2007 US Open
7. 2008 Australian Open
8. 2008 Monte-Carlo Masters Masters
9. 2008 US Open Major
10. 2009 Miami Open Masters
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
This is where it starts to get interesting:
11. 2009 Italian Open Masters - 2003 Fed vs 2015 Djokovic, both played well but I give the edge to Djokovic
12. 2009 Cincinnati Masters - it took a GOATing Nalbandian to took out prime Fed, Federer
13. 2009 US Open Major - 2003 Fed vs 2015 Djokovic, Djokovic
14. 2009 Swiss Indoors - edge to Fed but Djokovic didn't even play so hard to tell, Federer
15. 2010 Canadian Open - Federer all the way
16. 2010 US Open - Federer even more
17. 2010 Shanghai Masters - Federer withdrew in 2004 but Djokovic sucked in 2016, I'll give it to Djokovic because he played
18. 2010 Swiss Indoors - both didn't play but I'd take 2004 Fed over 2016 Djokovic, Federer
19. 2010 ATP World Tour Finals - Federer without a doubt
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This is probably where Federer gets the age and probably doesn't lose more than 2-3 matches until Djokovic retires. We'll see what Djokovic does but if the trend continues I'm 100% he wouldn't touch 2005+ Fed on any surface because Fed was so good back then. By the time Federer declines in 2015 Djokovic will be 34 years old himself.
20. 2011 Australian Open
21. 2011 Dubai Championships
22. 2011 Indian Wells Masters Masters
23. 2011 French Open Major
24. 2011 US Open Major
25. 2012 Italian Open Masters
26. 2012 French Open
27. 2012 Wimbledon
28. 2012 Cincinnati
29. 2012 ATP World Tour Finals
30. 2013 Paris Masters
31. 2013 ATP World Tour Finals
32. 2014 Dubai Championships
33. 2014 Indian Wells Masters
34. 2014 Monte-Carlo Masters
35. 2014 Wimbledon
36. 2014 Shanghai Masters
37. 2015 Dubai Championships
38. 2015 Indian Wells Masters
39. 2015 Italian Open Masters
40. 2015 Wimbledon Major
41. 2015 Cincinnati Masters
42. 2015 US Open
43. 2015 ATP World Tour Finals
44. 2015 ATP World Tour Finals
45. 2016 Australian Open

So the h2h would stand at:
9-1 to Djokovic in the first 10 matches
6-3 to Federer in the next 9 matches
23-3 to Federer in the next 26 matches because I'm very generous to Djokovic.

Overall h2h - 30-15 to Federer
Slam h2h - 10-5 to Federer

It wouldn't be nearly as interesting as it was the other way round because Djokovic would've dominated the first 10 matches of the hypothetical rivarly but once a 22-23 year old Federer reached his prime and started facing a 28-29 year old Djokovic on a consistent basis it would've been curtains for Djokovic.
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Great analysis. Even as someone who loves Nole, I must say 30-15 sounds about right in this scenario. Peak Fed would take grampovic to the cleaners.
 
reaper said:
Yes....I was thinking he was 29 all year...it was 28 he was in white hot form. 29....not good!
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At 29 Djokovic still played great (but already worse than his best in my eyes) in Madrid, Rome and the FO but afterwards he's been rather poor for his standards.
 
Another hypothetical demolition from Roger, yeah! :cool:

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The h2h would really look bad . Novak would have lost to the Roddicks and Safins as well.

He really got a good time slice to beef up his career
 
35 year old Federer taking wins over Prime Novak.

25 Year old Fred would destroy 34 year old Novack.
 
uliks said:
Fed would be sitting now at 45-0. His bad luck is just unreal...
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uliks said:
Novak would struggle to win points in this hypothetical case.:eek:
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Considering all the bagels he would deliver, I think Federer would be given extra wins in the H2H for being so amazing and Djokovic would go negative for being so crap. It would be something like 48-(-3).
 
Almost one page of posts yet no credible defense. That is all what you need to know how Novak took advantage of a weak era
 
haha, federer would wipe the floor with novak if fed was in his prime years. You make it sound like a certainty, well it is not. Federer would not wipe the floor with Novak prime for prime and it would be a competitive rivalry throughout thirty to fourty matches. Its not hard to think that both can beat each other on any given day, hence why its the most closes H2H on all surfaces and overall. You guys act like Federer is a god or something where by default if he is in his prime then he cant be beaten. I am sure Nadal would disagree as would Novak. These three can beat each other there's no amount of analysis that will change that fact, that is what competition is all about. Novak's defence to offence is only rivalled by Nadal and Murray and his fighting instincts is second to none with Nadal on par with him. Novak is just as good as federer was as was Nadal, stop acting like Federer is a god player because he is far from it
 
tennis_pro said:
A lot of butthurtage going on in this thread from Djokovic fans. I'm drinking your tears!
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tennisaddict said:
The h2h would really look bad . Novak would have lost to the Roddicks and Safins as well.

He really got a good time slice to beef up his career
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kishnabe said:
35 year old Federer taking wins over Prime Novak.

25 Year old Fred would destroy 34 year old Novack.
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I just find it hilarious that Fed fans, not content with his real accomplishments, conjure up hypothetical scenarios and imagine him winning everything

We have nothing to prove. We'll take the 23 wins Djokovic actually got over Fed. You guys can give Fed as many imaginary wins as you want. :D

PS: I haven't forgotten his Slam wins against Baghdatises and Philippoussises
PPS: It's also hilarious how Fed's age is always increased by his fans. What was a ~5.8 year difference has turned into a 9-10 year difference
 
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tennis_pro said:
Because Federer sucked Djokovic probably wins nearly all if not all the matches, let's say baby Fed shows some magic in one of the matches, h2h is 9-1 to Djokovic.

1. 2006 Monte-Carlo Masters Masters
2. 2006 Davis Cup
3. 2007 Australian Open
4. 2007 Dubai Championships
5. 2007 Canadian Open
6. 2007 US Open
7. 2008 Australian Open
8. 2008 Monte-Carlo Masters Masters
9. 2008 US Open Major
10. 2009 Miami Open Masters
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
This is where it starts to get interesting:
11. 2009 Italian Open Masters - 2003 Fed vs 2015 Djokovic, both played well but I give the edge to Djokovic
12. 2009 Cincinnati Masters - it took a GOATing Nalbandian to took out prime Fed, Federer
13. 2009 US Open Major - 2003 Fed vs 2015 Djokovic, Djokovic
14. 2009 Swiss Indoors - edge to Fed but Djokovic didn't even play so hard to tell, Federer
15. 2010 Canadian Open - Federer all the way
16. 2010 US Open - Federer even more
17. 2010 Shanghai Masters - Federer withdrew in 2004 but Djokovic sucked in 2016, I'll give it to Djokovic because he played
18. 2010 Swiss Indoors - both didn't play but I'd take 2004 Fed over 2016 Djokovic, Federer
19. 2010 ATP World Tour Finals - Federer without a doubt
---------------------------------
This is probably where Federer gets the age and probably doesn't lose more than 2-3 matches until Djokovic retires. We'll see what Djokovic does but if the trend continues I'm 100% he wouldn't touch 2005+ Fed on any surface because Fed was so good back then. By the time Federer declines in 2015 Djokovic will be 34 years old himself.
20. 2011 Australian Open
21. 2011 Dubai Championships
22. 2011 Indian Wells Masters Masters
23. 2011 French Open Major
24. 2011 US Open Major
25. 2012 Italian Open Masters
26. 2012 French Open
27. 2012 Wimbledon
28. 2012 Cincinnati
29. 2012 ATP World Tour Finals
30. 2013 Paris Masters
31. 2013 ATP World Tour Finals
32. 2014 Dubai Championships
33. 2014 Indian Wells Masters
34. 2014 Monte-Carlo Masters
35. 2014 Wimbledon
36. 2014 Shanghai Masters
37. 2015 Dubai Championships
38. 2015 Indian Wells Masters
39. 2015 Italian Open Masters
40. 2015 Wimbledon Major
41. 2015 Cincinnati Masters
42. 2015 US Open
43. 2015 ATP World Tour Finals
44. 2015 ATP World Tour Finals
45. 2016 Australian Open

So the h2h would stand at:
9-1 to Djokovic in the first 10 matches
6-3 to Federer in the next 9 matches
23-3 to Federer in the next 26 matches because I'm very generous to Djokovic.

Overall h2h - 30-15 to Federer
Slam h2h - 10-5 to Federer

It wouldn't be nearly as interesting as it was the other way round because Djokovic would've dominated the first 10 matches of the hypothetical rivarly but once a 22-23 year old Federer reached his prime and started facing a 28-29 year old Djokovic on a consistent basis it would've been curtains for Djokovic.
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I'm sorry but that has to be the most delusional post the c**k has ever read on tt :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
 
tennisaddict said:
Almost one page of posts yet no credible defense. That is all what you need to know how Novak took advantage of a weak era
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Murray, Wawrinka, del potro, Nishikori, Raonic, Cilic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Roddick, Hewitt, Safin, Baghdatis, Nalbandian, Ljubicic :D:D:D:D:D

Sorry to tell you that :cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:
 
Emperor of Belgrade said:
Considering all the bagels he would deliver, I think Federer would be given extra wins in the H2H for being so amazing and Djokovic would go negative for being so crap. It would be something like 48-(-3).
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There would be so many breadsticks and bagels that Chokovic would choke from all the emotional gluten fed by fedr the feederer.
 
cockneyDjoker said:
Murray, Wawrinka, del potro, Nishikori, Raonic, Cilic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Roddick, Hewitt, Safin, Baghdatis, Nalbandian, Ljubicic :D:D:D:D:D

Sorry to tell you that :cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:
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Delpo should go on the other side of the equation. You forgot to put Nadal and Djokovic on the right side. On the left side, you can add Declinadal and 35 year Fed

Murray achieved zilch during prior decade and Wawrinka, Cilic were fringe players .

LOL about RaoMug !!
 
cockneyDjoker said:
Murray, Wawrinka, del potro, Nishikori, Raonic, Cilic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Roddick, Hewitt, Safin, Baghdatis, Nalbandian, Ljubicic :D:D:D:D:D

Sorry to tell you that :cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:
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Wawrinka-Hewitt: not a sure thing Stan is better. Hewitt has more achievements outside the slams.

Nishikori, Raonic > Nalbandian: nope.

LOL at mentioning Ljubicic and Baghdatis, who weren't even Fed's rivals :D I could just as well mention Gulbis and Dimitrov for Djokovic.

And Fed dealt with peak Delpo just as much as Djokovic.
 
Well, the OP is right about one thing: that prime Federer would have had as much success over 33-34 year old Djokovic as Djokovic has had over 33-34 year old Fed. Nohing wrong with this assessment, as a prime ATG will always be favorite over the aging one.
 
Djokovic would have 17 Slams, biggest and most notorious fanbase, and he would collect at least 10 Stefan Edberg sportsmanship awards.
 
mike danny said:
Well, the OP is right about one thing: that prime Federer would have had as much success over 33-34 year old Djokovic as Djokovic has had over 33-34 year old Fed. Nohing wrong with this assessment, as a prime ATG will always be favorite over the aging one.
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I highly highly doubt 33-34 year old Djokovic would score multiple straight sets wins against peak Federer. Heck let's see what Djokovic's condition is like in the next few years. Considering that Fed at 30-31 was basically dead even with Djoker at slams which given Djoker's form the last few months seems very far fetched if he were to face prime Fed.
 
I can't understand why so many Federer fans get so frustrated that Djokovic leads him in the H2H. Novak is a fellow ATG and an incredible player so why do RF fans feel it's so shameful to have a losing record against him? :confused:
 
Djokovic2011 said:
I can't understand why so many Federer fans get so frustrated that Djokovic leads him in the H2H. Novak is a fellow ATG and an incredible player so why do RF fans feel it's so shameful to have a losing record against him? :confused:
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We do not feel it's shameful. But others seem to like to take a dump on Federer because of this. This thread is probably just a response to those people.
 
tennisaddict said:
Delpo should go on the other side of the equation. You forgot to put Nadal and Djokovic on the right side. On the left side, you can add Declinadal and 35 year Fed

Murray achieved zilch during prior decade and Wawrinka, Cilic were fringe players .

LOL about RaoMug !!
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Delpo is closer to age to Djokovic than he is to Federer. So that's why he's part of the Djokovic era and not Federer :):)

Face it Federer's main rival off-clay was Roddick. That's NOT a strong era. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
cockneyDjoker said:
Delpo is closer to age to Djokovic than he is to Federer. So that's why he's part of the Djokovic era and not Federer :):)

Face it Federer's main rival off-clay was Roddick. That's NOT a strong era. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
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Meanwhile, Federer has played more matches against Del Potro than Djokovic. How is that possible?
 
mike danny said:
Meanwhile, Federer has played more matches against Del Potro than Djokovic. How is that possible?
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That might have something to do with the fact that he's been off the tour for half his career because of injuries :D:D:D

Maybe your not good at maths but Delpo is only a year and a few months younger than Djokovic. He's 7 YEARS younger than Federer :eek::eek::eek::eek:

That makes him part of the Djokovic era to any smart unbiased fan that isn't a Federer fanboy :p:p:p
 
cockneyDjoker said:
That might have something to do with the fact that he's been off the tour for half his career because of injuries :D:D:D

Maybe your not good at maths but Delpo is only a year and a few months younger than Djokovic. He's 7 YEARS younger than Federer :eek::eek::eek::eek:

That makes him part of the Djokovic era to any smart unbiased fan that isn't a Federer fanboy :p:p:p
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He is more Djokovic's generaration than Federer's, that's true. However he is also part of Federer's competition just as much as Djokovic's.

After all, Federer started to deal with peak Del Potro way before Djokovic started to deal with him.

And it appears that you're* not good at spelling :D
 
mike danny said:
He is more Djokovic's generaration than Federer's, that's true. However he is also part of Federer's competition just as much as Djokovic's.

After all, Federer started to deal with peak Del Potro way before Djokovic started to deal with him.

And it appears that you're* not good at spelling :D
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The thing is Djokovic and Delpo are more likely to peak at the same time. There's no way he's just as much competition to Federer when he burst on to the scene in 2009 when Federer had already won most of his slams. :):)
 
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