What % is Djokovic playing at right now?

[BrokenGears]

70-75%

Hopefully he'll be in the high Bs or low As against Rafa tmrw

 

[FiReFTW]

70-75%

Hopefully he'll be in the high Bs or low As against Rafa tmrw

Compared to what? His peak level?

His prime level of around 90-100% was from 2011-2016.

With 2011-12 and 2015 being the absolute peak 100%.

So compared to peak 100% he is probably playing at around 80% now

 

[Tennisanity]

Novak always gives 110%.

 

[Sport]

Compared to what? His peak level?

His prime level of around 90-100% was from 2011-2016.

With 2011-12 and 2015 being the absolute peak 100%.

So compared to peak 100% he is probably playing at around 80% now

Djokovic was in his prime the final months of 2010 too. That's why he arrived to the US Open final in 2010 after beating Federer. It's not like Djokovic was not in his prime the 31th of December of 2010 and suddenly became at his peak the 1st of January of 2011.


Djokovic was already a GS winner, healthy and 23 years old in the US Open 2010 final.


Some Federer and Djokovic fans (not all) have created the excuse that Djokovic was not in his prime the last months of 2010 to dismiss the merit of Nadal's US Open 2010 victory.


Imagine this scenario: Nadal gets injured in the US Open 2010 SF and Djokovic faces Youzhny in the final. Then Djokovic wins the US Open 2010, Australian Open 2011, Wimbledon 2011, US Open 2011 and Australian Open 2012. Everybody would say that prime Djokovic started in late 2010. The only reason why people deny it is because Nadal defeated him in the US Open 2010 final.


Djokovic was also 100% in his prime in 2013, he was 26 years old and healthy. In 2013 Djokovic won the Australian Open, the WTF, and lost the Roland Garros semifinal and the US Open final to Nadal. If not for Nadal, Djokovic would have won both Roland Garros and the US Open in 2013. In other words, Djokovic would have won 3 GS in 2013 if not for Nadal. The only reason why some Fed fans say Djokovic was not 100% peak in 2013 is because Nadal defeated him in the US Open 2013.

 

[Deleted member 77403]

Djokovic was in his prime the finals months of 2010 too. That's why he arrived to the US Open final in 2010 after beating Federer. It's not like Djokovic was not at his prime the 31th of December of 2010 and suddenly became at his peak the 1st of January of 2011.

Djokovic was already a GS winner, healthy and 23 years old in the US Open 2010 final.

Federer and some Djokovic fans (not all) have created the excuse that Djokovic was not at his prime the last months of 2010 to dismiss the merit of Nadal's US Open 2010 victory.

Djokovic prime 2007-2016

 

[TripleATeam]

75%. He's good at times. He gives too much away in terms of breaks but his style is working for now. If he can keep his serve, he can continue to improve his game to 85-90.

 

[K-H]

Only a Djokovic fan can give you a proper answer to that.

@Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil @Hitman
What we sayin...

 

[Plamen1234]

Djokovic was in his prime the finals months of 2010 too. That's why he arrived to the US Open final in 2010 after beating Federer. It's not like Djokovic was not in his prime the 31th of December of 2010 and suddenly became at his peak the 1st of January of 2011.

Djokovic was already a GS winner, healthy and 23 years old in the US Open 2010 final.

Federer and some Djokovic fans (not all) have created the excuse that Djokovic was not at his prime the last months of 2010 to dismiss the merit of Nadal's US Open 2010 victory.

Djokovic was also in his prime in 2013, he was 26 years old and healthy, and that year he won the Australian Open and lost the US Open final to Nadal.

Djokovic prime was from 2007/2008 to mid 2016.Of course Djokovic in 2010 was at his prime.What I dont agree is that he was at its peak in 2010.Prime and peak are different things

 

[abmk]

Djokovic was in his prime the finals months of 2010 too. That's why he arrived to the US Open final in 2010 after beating Federer. It's not like Djokovic was not in his prime the 31th of December of 2010 and suddenly became at his peak the 1st of January of 2011.

Djokovic was already a GS winner, healthy and 23 years old in the US Open 2010 final.

Federer and some Djokovic fans (not all) have created the excuse that Djokovic was not at his prime the last months of 2010 to dismiss the merit of Nadal's US Open 2010 victory.

Djokovic was also in his prime in 2013, he was 26 years old and healthy, and that year he won the Australian Open and lost the US Open final to Nadal.

This part from you about 2010 was already addressed by me over here previously.
You choose to ignore that and still post the same bullsh*t ?

Djoko was at his peak in 12, 13, but
Nope, djoko was not peak in uso 10. He won only one single tournament on his own after the us open.
One of the main catalysts for his transformation was the Serbia Davis Cup win at the end of the year. Also off-season training helps.

Hilarious that you say peak cannot arbirarily be at the start of 2011. Then how can it arbitrarily start at the US Open in 10 ? You do realize he had not beaten a single top 10 player until US open semi in 2010 ?

When do you think a peak period Starts for someone like novak?
A record like loses in USO, wins Beijing , loses Shanghai, loses Basel, loses early in Paris and loses in the YEC or when he starts at friggin 40+ match streak ? (Along with time for off-season training)

The difference in level in September 10-end and in 2011 was also obvious from the eye-test.

 

[Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil]

Only a Djokovic fan can give you a proper answer to that.

@Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil @Hitman
What we sayin...

I think this should be good enough for him to go deep in tournaments more regularly from now on but still not good enough to beat the very best like he used to. Still got to be patient with him...

 

[Shaolin]

He is at exactly 71.283% of his prime level.

 

[ChaelAZ]

He is playing 100%, 20% of the time.
He is playing 50%, 30% of the time.
He is playing 20%, 50% of the time.

 

[Sum Buddy Ells]

50% Peak Nole, 50% Peace Nole

 

[KINGROGER]

70%

Hopefully Djokovic can save tennis tomorrow and keep the maestro at number 1 until Halle at least.

 

[mellowyellow]

Djokovic was in his prime the final months of 2010 too. That's why he arrived to the US Open final in 2010 after beating Federer. It's not like Djokovic was not in his prime the 31th of December of 2010 and suddenly became at his peak the 1st of January of 2011.


Djokovic was already a GS winner, healthy and 23 years old in the US Open 2010 final.


Some Federer and Djokovic fans (not all) have created the excuse that Djokovic was not in his prime the last months of 2010 to dismiss the merit of Nadal's US Open 2010 victory.


Imagine this scenario: Nadal gets injured in the US Open 2010 SF and Djokovic faces Youzhny in the final. Then Djokovic wins the US Open 2010, Australian Open 2011, Wimbledon 2011, US Open 2011 and Australian Open 2012. Everybody would say that prime Djokovic started in late 2010. The only reason why people deny it is because Nadal defeated him in the US Open 2010 final.


Djokovic was also 100% in his prime in 2013, he was 26 years old and healthy. In 2013 Djokovic won the Australian Open, the WTF, and lost the Roland Garros semifinal and the US Open final to Nadal. If not for Nadal, Djokovic would have won both Roland Garros and the US Open in 2013. In other words, Djokovic would have won 3 GS in 2013 if not for Nadal. The only reason why some Fed fans say Djokovic was not 100% peak in 2013 is because Nadal defeated him in the US Open 2013.

It's bs like this mods should just delete... And ban for absolutely moronic post.

 

[Tennisanity]

Nadal actually was in better form in 2011 than 2010. In 2010 Nadal was losing to a parade of nobodies and only had the results he did because of the weak opponents he faced. In 2011, no such luck for Nadal who for the first time reached the most consecutive finals across all surfaces. Truly peak was Nadal in 2011.

 

[Sport]

70%

Hopefully Djokovic can save tennis tomorrow and keep the maestro at number 1 until Halle at least.

The maestro is playing against Djokovic tomorrow. Djokovic should lose if he wants to save tennis.

Now seriously, I don't expect it to be an easy match at all. Djokovic looks different than in Madrid 2017.

 

[Sport]

Nadal actually was in better form in 2011 than 2010. In 2010 Nadal was losing to a parade of nobodies and only had the results he did because of the weak opponents he faced. In 2011, no such luck for Nadal who for the first time reached the most consecutive finals across all surfaces. Truly peak was Nadal in 2011.

Yeah and Djokovic was better in 2013 than 2011. Djokovic won both the Australian Open and the WTF in 2013, while in 2011 he didn't win the WTF. Djokovic could have won 3 GS and the WTF 2013 if not for Nadal stopping him in Roland Garros and the US Open.

 

[Tennisanity]

^^^ LOL, so many delusional posters here.

 

[r2473]

Novak always gives 110%.

He is playing 100%, 20% of the time.
He is playing 50%, 30% of the time.
He is playing 20%, 50% of the time.

How about the other 10%?

 

[Deleted member 77403]

Only a Djokovic fan can give you a proper answer to that.

@Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil @Hitman
What we sayin...

About three quarters of the way there, judging by today. But the last quarter is what separates the pretenders from the contenders, and he needs it if he wants to stand face to face against Fedal.

 

[FiReFTW]

Djokovic was in his prime the final months of 2010 too. That's why he arrived to the US Open final in 2010 after beating Federer. It's not like Djokovic was not in his prime the 31th of December of 2010 and suddenly became at his peak the 1st of January of 2011.


Djokovic was already a GS winner, healthy and 23 years old in the US Open 2010 final.


Some Federer and Djokovic fans (not all) have created the excuse that Djokovic was not in his prime the last months of 2010 to dismiss the merit of Nadal's US Open 2010 victory.


Imagine this scenario: Nadal gets injured in the US Open 2010 SF and Djokovic faces Youzhny in the final. Then Djokovic wins the US Open 2010, Australian Open 2011, Wimbledon 2011, US Open 2011 and Australian Open 2012. Everybody would say that prime Djokovic started in late 2010. The only reason why people deny it is because Nadal defeated him in the US Open 2010 final.


Djokovic was also 100% in his prime in 2013, he was 26 years old and healthy. In 2013 Djokovic won the Australian Open, the WTF, and lost the Roland Garros semifinal and the US Open final to Nadal. If not for Nadal, Djokovic would have won both Roland Garros and the US Open in 2013. In other words, Djokovic would have won 3 GS in 2013 if not for Nadal. The only reason why some Fed fans say Djokovic was not 100% peak in 2013 is because Nadal defeated him in the US Open 2013.

He was in prime from 2007 till 2016.

But he was not at his peak, you are at your peak when you perform at 100% and close to that consistently during the whole year.
You can be capable of performing 100% but maybe ur level drops for a few months or fpr a tournament or whatever, can be mental can be injuries, can be whatever.

But you need to only look when someone performed his best, thats when he peaked.

Nadal was better in 2011 than 2010, so that alone is proof that novak at the us open 2010 final was not at his peak, he did mot perform well at all, did the semifinal mentally drain him, any other reason? Doesnt matter, he performed at 80% while at the semifinal he was better, Nadal performed at 90% or so.

In 2011 Nadal was at 95% and Djokovic at 100%.

You must compare how the players played against the opponents to gauge their level and then also in final, did they play worse than in the tournament or the same?

You cant just say fed beat nadal in wimbledon 2007 so when he lost in 2008 he must have been at his peak.

 

[Incognito]

Rafa has already said Novak has the highest level ever. If Novak brings that highest level tomorrow, he wins.

Rafa has achieved the most on clay and therefore ClayGOAT, while Novak has the highest level ever on all surfaces including clay.

Anyway if Novak wins this match, he better not lose to Zverev

 

[yokied]

The feet looked to me like they had a long way to go against Edmond in Madrid - he looked about 50 per cent there. I'll be interested to see this Rome Nishi match but I'd be utterly amazed if he even gets a set off Nadal.

 

[sportsfan1]

He is at exactly 71.283% of his prime level.

Nope. After extensive analysis of match play videos, the correct value is 71.282 .

 

[KINGROGER]

The maestro is playing against Djokovic tomorrow. Djokovic should lose if he wants to save tennis.

Now seriously, I don't expect it to be an easy match at all. Djokovic looks different than in Madrid 2017.

Federer isn’t playing clay anymore, sir.

The maestro will return to save tennis once again during grass season.

 

[AlexanderTheGreat08]

Federer isn’t playing clay anymore, sir.

The maestro will return to save tennis once again during grass season.

“Save tennis”

 

[PrestigeDave45]

Why? Hardly matters, one mans 80% is another mans 60%.
But for my money hes definately getting up that hill to where he needs to be.

 

[ak24alive]

He is playing 100%, 20% of the time.
He is playing 50%, 30% of the time.
He is playing 20%, 50% of the time.

This is talking like a real mathematician.
Don't know about the numbers but this approach of conditional probability is best.
Using these numbers we can find his average.
100*0.2+50*0.3+20*0.5=45% of his best.
Although your method is right your numbers are horribly wrong.

I will say this:
He is playing 100%, 20% of the time.
He is playing 80%, 30% of the time.
He is playing 70%, 20% of the time.
He is playing 60%, 30% of the time.

Now, his average= 100*0.2+80*0.3+70*0.2+60*0.3= 76% of his best.

 

[Deleted member 716271]

This is talking like a real mathematician.
Don't know about the numbers but this approach of conditional probability is best.
Using these numbers we can find his average.
100*0.2+50*0.3+20*0.5=45% of his best.
Although your method is right your numbers are horribly wrong.

I will say this:
He is playing 100%, 20% of the time.
He is playing 80%, 30% of the time.
He is playing 70%, 20% of the time.
He is playing 60%, 30% of the time.

Now, his average= 100*0.2+80*0.3+70*0.2+60*0.3= 76% of his best.

This reminds me of those tricky work/rate problems where you can't just average the two rates because you have to consider that the person doing more work does a greater percentage of the task.

 

[ak24alive]

This reminds me of those tricky work/rate problems where you can't just average the two rates because you have to consider that the person doing more work does a greater percentage of the task.

Exactly.
Those type of problems are fun. You don't have to think a lot if you know the basic concept behind it.

 

[Benben245]

His physique is not the same, did you see him take his shirt off after the kei match? Less muscle more fat, Nalbandian would be proud.

 

[Deon Sanders]

He is playing close to his highest level

Unfortunately the weak era he dominated is over

 

[mika1979]

Djokovic was in his prime the final months of 2010 too. That's why he arrived to the US Open final in 2010 after beating Federer. It's not like Djokovic was not in his prime the 31th of December of 2010 and suddenly became at his peak the 1st of January of 2011.


Djokovic was already a GS winner, healthy and 23 years old in the US Open 2010 final.


Some Federer and Djokovic fans (not all) have created the excuse that Djokovic was not in his prime the last months of 2010 to dismiss the merit of Nadal's US Open 2010 victory.


Imagine this scenario: Nadal gets injured in the US Open 2010 SF and Djokovic faces Youzhny in the final. Then Djokovic wins the US Open 2010, Australian Open 2011, Wimbledon 2011, US Open 2011 and Australian Open 2012. Everybody would say that prime Djokovic started in late 2010. The only reason why people deny it is because Nadal defeated him in the US Open 2010 final.


Djokovic was also 100% in his prime in 2013, he was 26 years old and healthy. In 2013 Djokovic won the Australian Open, the WTF, and lost the Roland Garros semifinal and the US Open final to Nadal. If not for Nadal, Djokovic would have won both Roland Garros and the US Open in 2013. In other words, Djokovic would have won 3 GS in 2013 if not for Nadal. The only reason why some Fed fans say Djokovic was not 100% peak in 2013 is because Nadal defeated him in the US Open 2013.

He was closer to his prime but I think the davis cup win really set him up to beat the best on the biggest stage his record in big matches against the big 2 wasnt great

 

[mika1979]

He is playing 100%, 20% of the time.
He is playing 50%, 30% of the time.
He is playing 20%, 50% of the time.

close I think if you swap the bottom 2 % so 50% 50% and 20% 30% is about right. So maybe in the 50-60% range. People forget how good the big boys played 2010-2013

 

[Federer and Del Potro]

Djokovic is playing well enough to simultaneously scare his haters but also have them proclaiming Nadal will destroy him but also rooting heavily for Nishikori to beat him because they're scared

 

[Federer and Del Potro]

This is talking like a real mathematician.
Don't know about the numbers but this approach of conditional probability is best.
Using these numbers we can find his average.
100*0.2+50*0.3+20*0.5=45% of his best.
Although your method is right your numbers are horribly wrong.

I will say this:
He is playing 100%, 20% of the time.
He is playing 80%, 30% of the time.
He is playing 70%, 20% of the time.
He is playing 60%, 30% of the time.

Now, his average= 100*0.2+80*0.3+70*0.2+60*0.3= 76% of his best.