What is left for Novak?

[Neptune]

ATG Lendl esque player with better longevity and weaker competition.

Let’s see who has the weakest peak, with the lowest weight percentage of matches against the top 5, and less than half of final opponents in the top 5. Lol.

Peak​	vs Top5​	T5 Weight​	vs Top10​	T10 Weight​	vs T11+​	T11+ Weight​	vs All​	Opp Rank​	Opp Elo​
Nole 11-16​	91 (66-25) 72.53%​	19.08%​	174 (140-34) 80.46%​	36.48%​	303 (287-16) 94.72%​	63.52%​	477 (427-50) 89.52%​	18​	2086​
Fed 04-09​	67 (44-23) 65.67%​	13.59%​	121 (91-30) 75.21%​	24.54%​	372 (351-21) 94.35%​	75.46%​	493 (442-51) 89.66%​	26​	2017​
Rafa 08-13​	73 (47-26) 64.38%​	15.60%​	133 (93-40) 69.92%​	28.42%​	335 (313-22) 93.43%​	71.58%​	468 (406-62) 86.75%​	23​	2045​
Lendl 84-89​	74 (52-22) 70.27%​	15.81%​	116 (83-33) 71.55%​	24.79%​	352 (333-19) 94.60%​	75.21%​	468 (416-52) 88.89%​	27​	2014​

Peak Finals​	vs Top5​	T5 Weight​	vs Top10​	T10 Weight​	vs T11+​	T11+ Weight​	vs All​
Nole 11-16​	47 (32-15) 68.09%​	74.60%​	59 (43-16) 72.88%​	93.65%​	4 (4-0) 100.00%​	6.35%​	63 (47-16) 74.60%​
Fed 04-09​	30 (17-13) 56.67%​	45.45%​	44 (30-14) 68.18%​	66.67%​	22 (20-2) 90.91%​	33.33%​	66 (50-16) 75.76%​
Rafa 08-13​	35 (20-15) 57.14%​	62.50%​	42 (25-17) 59.52%​	75.00%​	14 (12-2) 85.71%​	25.00%​	56 (37-19) 66.07%​
Lendl 84-89​	37 (20-17) 54.05%​	56.92%​	45 (24-21) 53.33%​	69.23%​	20 (19-1) 95.00%​	30.77%​	65 (43-22) 66.15%​

 

[fedfan24]

7 Wimbledon’s. 7 Tour Finals.

LOL

I mean most of those titles were won over ancient Federer, Ruud and Berretini. Did he win any of those over a prime Federer? Absolutely 0. Of course he’s a great so he won a lot of those but peak for peak he has 0 chance on the fast courts vs the very best.

 

[big ted]

sportsmanship award

 

[Fabresque]

I mean most of those titles were won over ancient Federer, Ruud and Berretini. Did he win any of those over a prime Federer? Absolutely 0. Of course he’s a great so he won a lot of those but peak for peak he has 0 chance on the fast courts vs the very best.

Not sure I agree with this statement.

 

[Jonas78]

President of Serbia?

 

[Genie Of the Bank]

Going by that, Alcaraz is sooo dominant at wimby with his no loss 2-0 record over Novak.

True, he is the new grass all time great, minus the Djokovic knee operation a month before Wimbledon . Plus the age difference is huge (16 years), compered to Roger-Novak age difference of 5 years and 10 months.

 

[Genie Of the Bank]

Haha certainly stronger than anything from 2019-2023. And 2003 Federer on grass was probably the highest level of all time at Wimbledon.

For me 2003-2005 is era of mediocrity of quality, similar like during Djokovic - Nadal (rarely healthy outside clay)- Medvedev -Zverev era 2020-2022.

 

[Sudacafan]

At this point, retirement. There are many TTW users looking forward to that.

 

[Hitman]

At this point, retirement. There are many TTW users looking forward to that.

Many will retire themselves from TTW when big 3 era is fully over.

 

[JoJoHackshow]

Nole family finally realizing that age gaps are a thing, mind=blown

 

[fedfan24]

Not sure I agree with this statement.

I mean, Federer blew him off the court whenever he was in form in a proper court like Shanghai or Cincy.

 

[fedfan24]

For me 2003-2005 is era of mediocrity of quality, similar like during Djokovic - Nadal (rarely healthy outside clay)- Medvedev -Zverev era 2020-2022.

There’s levels to this game. 2020-2023 is the worse era I’ve witnessed since I started watching tennis. Low quality. Endless choking. Old men winning all the slams. Alcaraz and sinner literally saved tennis.

 

[Genie Of the Bank]

There’s levels to this game. 2020-2023 is the worse era I’ve witnessed since I started watching tennis. Low quality. Endless choking. Old men winning all the slams. Alcaraz and sinner literally saved tennis.

Maybe not saved tennis but returned the quality in rivalries . In reality the young guns didn't beat the Big 3, the old age and injuries did them in.

 

[canta_Brian]

At this point it is a sad joke. Take a look at the insane amount of fans he had around him throughout his visit to China, he was swamped by fans in Shanghai. Look at the crazy amount of fans that cheered him on in the gold medal match, and no, they weren't all Serbian, they were fans from all over the world that came to watch the Olympics, and he had a massive amount cheering him on. But yeah, lets keep saying no one likes him, because we cannot go after his records now.

Both non-tennis crowds. Those who know, don’t go.

 

[Hitman]

Both non-tennis crowds. Those who know, don’t go.

Imagine paying to go watch someone you don't know. "Who's this Djokovic guy?" "I don't know, but lets go buy a ticket and see for ourselves." LMAO

 

[canta_Brian]

Imagine paying to go watch someone you don't know. "Who's this Djokovic guy?" "I don't know, but lets go buy a ticket and see for ourselves." LMAO

Celeb culture innit

People will watch any dross

 

[Hitman]

Celeb culture innit

People will watch any dross

So they will pay to go watch someone they don't know play a sport, and cheer him on. Riiiight.

 

[canta_Brian]

So they will pay to go watch someone they don't know play a sport, and cheer him on. Riiiight.

Have you met people? They’re awful.

 

[Hitman]

Have you met people? They’re awful.

Yeah, they are awful enough to spend a lot of money to watch you, cheer you also, even when they have no idea who you really are.

 

[canta_Brian]

Yeah, they are awful enough to spend a lot of money to watch you, cheer you also, even when they have no idea who you really are.

There you go.

Personal growth feels good doesn’t it. If you like tennis there are some great highlights compilations of Federer on YouTube.

This one of Djokovic is also good

 

[Hitman]

There you go.

Personal growth feels good doesn’t it. If you like tennis there are some great highlights compilations of Federer on YouTube.

This one of Djokovic is also good

Hopefully you will get to experience it one day yourself when you get over the sting you're feeling from Federer losing the slam race to Djokovic. You'll get there, I'm sure all hope is not lost.

 

[ChaelAZ]

He hasn't injured an ump yet.

 

[Mainad]

Slam #25. That is all he has left to aim for that is worthwhile.

 

[canta_Brian]

Hopefully you will get to experience it one day yourself when you get over the sting you're feeling from Federer losing the slam race to Djokovic. You'll get there, I'm sure all hope is not lost.

lol, one day maybe. I can only hope.

I still like Edberg best anyway

 

[GabeT]

He has all the important tennis records.

He can rest now