What is the deal with Laver?

Discussion in 'General Pro Player Discussion' started by Kobble, Jul 9, 2007.

  1. Kobble

    Kobble Hall of Fame

    Feb 19, 2004
    I heard something mentioned about him not being able to compete in the majors because he went pro. This was way before my time, but did he miss out on titles at his peak because of this?
  2. Gilgamesh

    Gilgamesh Semi-Pro

    Feb 18, 2006
    Back in the day professionals couldn't compete in GS because they were for amateurs only. This is before the Open Era when such rules changed but there were tournaments on the professional tour that were "equal" to the GS (i.e. Wimbledon Pro, US Pro, Wembley Pro and French Pro Championship). If you include those tournaments in addition to all the GS tournaments he won, Laver has more than Sampras. I think he has 18 or something like that. Maybe a more knowledgeable poster can confirm including a career grand slam in professional tournaments as well.
  3. Nuke

    Nuke Hall of Fame

    Apr 13, 2005
    location, location, location
    Yes, he definitely missed out on the opportunity to win more grand slams. He won all four GS titles in 1962 (and 17 more titles that year!) when those tournaments only accepted amateurs. Then he turned pro in 1963 and could not play the GS tournaments again until 1968 when the "open" era began. He promptly won all 4 GS titles again that year. So the speculation is that for five years in his prime, he was not allowed to compete in the grand slam events, and might have won a few more calendar slams. On the other side of the coin, he might never have won the slam in 1962 because most of the era's best players were off playing the pro circuit.
  4. TheNatural

    TheNatural Legend

    Jan 27, 2005
    Rod laver could have won 9 consecutive Wimbledon titles:

    1961 won
    1962 won
    1963 turned pro, pros couldnt compete
    1964 as above
    1965 as above
    1966 as above
    1967 as above
    1968 won- Open era, pros could compete
    1969 won - as above

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