What is the minimum number of games required for a match to count in USTA?

McLovin

Legend
We have a player who is coming off a shoulder injury. He doesn't want to play much for fear of re-injuring it, but feels he'll be ready by Regionals (which is the end of July).

We've won our league with 2 matches remaining, and we want to get him qualified. So, if he walks onto the court, plays 5 or 6 games, then retires, will it count as a 'match played'? Or does it only count if the other team retires?

I can go into all the ugly details of our league, and why its nothing nefarious (he's a decent singles player, but by no means a top 4.5 in our area), but I'd rather keep it short & to the point.
 
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schmke

Hall of Fame
AFAIK, a retirement of any sort counts as a match played for playoff qualification purposes.
 

esgee48

Legend
I think @schmke is saying at least 1 game. The score could be 1-0 or 0-1, (retired); be recorded, and counted as a match played. As for what it may do to the DNTRP, it may not be counted since it is a retirement and the number of games played is out-of-range. Good way to qualify a potential player for the playoffs. ;)
 

OrangePower

Legend
Pair him in dubs with your strongest player, and have them complete the match but tank. The injured guy just needs to dump every return in the net and DF his service points away. You get to qualify him for playoffs, plus ensure your strongest player does not get bumped up - win/win!
 

winchestervatennis

Hall of Fame
We have a player who is coming off a shoulder injury. He doesn't want to play much for fear of re-injuring it, but feels he'll be ready by Sectionals (which is the end of July).

We've won our league with 2 matches remaining, and we want to get him qualified. So, if he walks onto the court, plays 5 or 6 games, then retires, will it count as a 'match played'? Or does it only count if the other team retires?

I can go into all the ugly details of our league, and why its nothing nefarious (he's a decent singles player, but by no means a top 4.5 in our area), but I'd rather keep it short & to the point.
You guys are going to make sectionals? Hope to see you there; I've qualified for districts with a team in Frederick.

And if you pair the guy with the strongest dubs player, isn't that you?!?!
 

McLovin

Legend
You guys are going to make sectionals? Hope to see you there; I've qualified for districts with a team in Frederick.

And if you pair the guy with the strongest dubs player, isn't that you?!?!
Sorry, my mistake. I meant 'Regionals'. It used to be called Districts, and then they changed it to Regionals, but I still get confused if its Sectionals or Regionals.

And I'd say Gabe is probably stronger than me. While I might be more consistent, he's more athletic, and just competes better than anyone I've known.

Besides, I'm not the 'put away' guy in doubles. I'm the anchor of the team, getting a high percentage of returns in play, hitting my spots on my serve, and blocking most of my volleys back deep from where they came. Other guys on the team are more aggressive at the net and have better hands, or harder serves, so 'better' is really in how you look at it.
 

McLovin

Legend
Thanks @schmke. We'll probably have him play 3 or 4 games, just to make it look 'official'. My back is hurting me right now anyway, so I might pair w/ him and bail out on my serve...
 

winchestervatennis

Hall of Fame
Sorry, my mistake. I meant 'Regionals'. It used to be called Districts, and then they changed it to Regionals, but I still get confused if its Sectionals or Regionals.

And I'd say Gabe is probably stronger than me. While I might be more consistent, he's more athletic, and just competes better than anyone I've known.

Besides, I'm not the 'put away' guy in doubles. I'm the anchor of the team, getting a high percentage of returns in play, hitting my spots on my serve, and blocking most of my volleys back deep from where they came. Other guys on the team are more aggressive at the net and have better hands, or harder serves, so 'better' is really in how you look at it.
I've seen your BH return of serve, so play coy all you like! Best of luck to you fellas at "regionals."

Its easy in Southern, they call it states, which makes sense because the 9 state winners and 1 wild card makes sectionals. MATA gives a lot better shot of making sectionals needing only finishing second in va or md.
 

Max G.

Legend
All those tricks seem very unsportsmanlike to me. If he steps on court with his opponent, he should do so because he intends to finish the match. I'd be very pissed off if I drove to get to a league match and then my opponent retired after the first game because they didn't feel like playing but did want the match on their record.
 

McLovin

Legend
@Max G., I understand what you're saying, but what I didn't mention is the 'uniqueness' of our league, so to prevent further discussion of it, I'll lay out out here:

We have no one else to play in our area. Yes, some of us drive 30-40 miles to play in a more competitive league, but technically our District is Shenandoah, which extends west & south of us. To get 8 people from our club to drive 35 miles in each direction, at 8PM, 12 times, in a 3 month span would require an act of God. We used to have a couple other clubs/teams, but due to some other issues, they stopped playing a few years ago. So, to get us to 'the Beach' (aka Virginia Beach, where Regionals is held), we 'fake a league'. Again, this is nothing nefarious. There are two teams at the beginning of the season: Team '1' is going to the beach, Team '2' is not.

I will say right now that Team '1' is not a stacked team. It is a simple question at the beginning of the season:
Do/can you go to Regionals?​

If the answer is 'yes', then you're on Team '1'. If 'no', then Team '2'. We play it out, but it is preordained that Team '1' is going. If Team '2' wins the league, they will default their trip to the beach, and it will fall to us. Truth be told, there are a couple players on Team '2' we'd like on Team '1', but due to scheduling conflicts, they couldn't do it.

We're all friends on this league. We (mostly) all play at the same club, and have known one another for 10-15 years. Its not your normal 'USTA' competitive league. It essentially exists to send a bunch of married guys on a weekend trip to the beach.
 

schmke

Hall of Fame
Note that at higher levels and in less populated areas, this is not uncommon and I don't think there is anything nefarious about it. The specifics of how the players are split into the teams may differ, but the general idea is the same to have 2 teams in the local league so they can play. Unless an area/district rules allow for a team to advance straight to Districts/States/Regionals without playing a local league, this is the only way to get a team qualified to go.
 

5sets

Professional
So sad that this is the moniker of league tennis. Definitely not what the creators had in mind

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stapletonj

Hall of Fame
They are in the mountains of rural Virginia. What are they supposed to do? Just not play at all?
Pretty much the entire state of WV seconds your comment.
I have driven 60 miles each way to play in a league match, at night, in an ice storm, when it was literally at the top of a mountain, uphill both ways....
 
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