What is the worst thing in tennis?

clayqueen said:
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if you could get rid of only one thing from tennis, would it be that horrible chant, or would it be sabalenka's grunting?
 
Olli Jokinen said:
The "bababababababbabbabaaaaa – olé!" at French tourmanents. It's the worst thing ever. I'm angry just writing this.
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I’m angry just reading about it because I forgot about it and you reminded me. Listen to it for hours while attending the FO and you will leave thinking knowing the French are insane.
 
RSJfan said:
I’m angry just reading about it because I forgot about it and you reminded me. Listen to it for hours while attending the FO and you will leave thinking knowing the French are insane.
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I love France, but their tennis crowd is the worst. They’re like 9 year-olds. Also, back when they had that “beep” on let serves, there were always several idiots whistling. Every. Fracking. Time. Infuriating.
 
toby55555 said:
Players demanding more support from their box.
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I will forever be baffled by players who demand this. Djokovic and Murray are notorious for it. Bro, you are out there playing after all the practice and talking about tactics, and how to react in best, expected and worse case scenarios, so figure it out.
 
Cashman said:
Do you mean netcord? Because I haven't seen anyone apologise for a let.

It's not "I'm sorry I won the point", it's "I'm sorry the point had to play out like that"

Luck is part of the game but there is nothing wrong with acknowledging when you've benefited from a bad beat (be that a netcord, shanked winner, whatever)
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Both netcord and let.

It is not cheating and is apart of the game. I dont say sorry when I get a lucky bounce in hockey, and in most sports no one apologizes for the luck of the game.

Plus, at the level of the pros, not a single player cares how they win a point, just as long as they win it.

I hope eventually the hand wave and apologizing stops.

Being "played out like that" IS part of the sport. There are posts in sports that can make a goal or stop a goal, no one is waving if it benefits them because they wish it did not play out in their favour.

It is an old tradition that needs to end.
 
games that never end. Reconsider no Ad scoring for the pros. And best of 3 at the GS before the quarters. No one has the attention span nowadays
 
The net cord thing is a question of implication and tone. A simple, muted raise of the hand is a sporting acknowledgement that luck has aided you. Now that this gesture has become expected and players are more readily scrutinised, that sporting acknowledgement has evolved unhappily into a full-on apology, held long enough to guarantee that the opponent has seen it. Madison Keys acted one out today that was as if she'd just stepped on Swiatek's puppy. It's ingratiating and thus irritating.

But people — commentariat, public, and players — overscrutinise everything now to the point that almost anything could be seen as a slight, and it's likely that players don't want to take the risk of being misunderstood as having slighted an opponent. It's all performative.
 
Lleytonstation said:
Both netcord and let.

It is not cheating and is apart of the game. I dont say sorry when I get a lucky bounce in hockey, and in most sports no one apologizes for the luck of the game.

Plus, at the level of the pros, not a single player cares how they win a point, just as long as they win it.

I hope eventually the hand wave and apologizing stops.

Being "played out like that" IS part of the sport. There are posts in sports that can make a goal or stop a goal, no one is waving if it benefits them because they wish it did not play out in their favour.

It is an old tradition that needs to end.
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plenty of sports, players acknowledge a bad beat when it happens

It’s not saying ‘I wish I didn’t win the point’, it’s just saying ‘I recognise that point wasn’t decided by skill’

I don’t understand why you’re so upset about it
 
Cashman said:
plenty of sports, players acknowledge a bad beat when it happens

It’s not saying ‘I wish I didn’t win the point’, it’s just saying ‘I recognise that point wasn’t decided by skill’

I don’t understand why you’re so upset about it
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And it is wrong. I am no that upset, but I was just answering what the all time worst thing in tennis is... that and thinking Pancho could compete in todays tennis.
 
Slingshot said:
The net cord thing is a question of implication and tone. A simple, muted raise of the hand is a sporting acknowledgement that luck has aided you. Now that this gesture has become expected and players are more readily scrutinised, that sporting acknowledgement has evolved unhappily into a full-on apology, held long enough to guarantee that the opponent has seen it. Madison Keys acted one out today that was as if she'd just stepped on Swiatek's puppy. It's ingratiating and thus irritating.

But people — commentariat, public, and players — overscrutinise everything now to the point that almost anything could be seen as a slight, and it's likely that players don't want to take the risk of being misunderstood as having slighted an opponent. It's all performative.
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Madison keys is still 200x kinder and nicer than iga.. at least what i have seen in the public eye. If a bit less nice she may have done a fair bit more.
 
Its not, it just comes naturally
Lleytonstation said:
Both netcord and let.

It is not cheating and is apart of the game. I dont say sorry when I get a lucky bounce in hockey, and in most sports no one apologizes for the luck of the game.

Plus, at the level of the pros, not a single player cares how they win a point, just as long as they win it.

I hope eventually the hand wave and apologizing stops.

Being "played out like that" IS part of the sport. There are posts in sports that can make a goal or stop a goal, no one is waving if it benefits them because they wish it did not play out in their favour.

It is an old tradition that needs to end.
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Airspun said:
Getting rid of no tiebreaks in all slams (except US open) Thanks Isner.
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Good One.

I will add a couple more that may serve of inspiration for others.

1)Possible (likely?) widespread use of peds.
2)Possible (likely?) widespread use of hgh.
3)Slide on hardcourts. That's basically a physically aggressive hack that gives more defensive players an advantage over more aggressive players, especially when combined with number 4) and 5). It evens gives less defensively talented players an edge over other defensive players, that likely have more talent/skill, but have a disavantage competing with full balanced players
4)Widespread profusion of medium to slow bounce surfaces. Together with numbers 3 & 5, helps too much less technically gifted players. Especially worthy mention is that it makes a bit too easy to attack second serves
5)Widespread profusion of medium to slow surfaces. Same as number 3 & 4, especially when combined.
6)Players "teams". It's quite pathetic taken into account that tennis is traditionally an individual sport where players should do nearly all by themselves with some help of their coaches. It's even more damage when combined to number 7.
7)Players "teams" allowed to give players instructions and tips. It is the same fundamental problem as 6) and it is also annoying.
8)Modern forehands. Too spiny forehand loops. Usually it comes with extreme grips. While extreme grips can make more difficult to hit many shots, as it increases the chance of hitting outside the sweet spot, on a more practical level, what it does is mostly allow players to be both defensive and aggressive while taking less risks, courtesy of the higher net clearance.
9)Generalized dismiss of the one hand backhand, by far the most technical ground stroke of all.
10)Percentage plays. Many players adopt as pillars into their games, some high pattern plays that are effective but require less skill. Hitting return deep, on a player's feet, if possible sending a heavy topspin or a small moonball to get a short reply and winning the point in the next two or three points. Made more easy than it should by most of my previous points.

11)Silly fans that do not understand that professional tennis is nothing more than a show, that only exists to entertain the public (the fans, we). It should not exist to make the players happy. Tennis players should be nothing more than ATP and ITF employes, and both organizations should have as its number one priority, to make the fans happy.

On a more practical level though, ATP will do whatever necessary to keep the top players happy, as it keeps the money flowing to their pockets, as well to top players' pockets. As many (most?) fans are happy seeing their favorite player winning/playing, then it's all good for most.
 
Cashman said:
plenty of sports, players acknowledge a bad beat when it happens

It’s not saying ‘I wish I didn’t win the point’, it’s just saying ‘I recognise that point wasn’t decided by skill’

I don’t understand why you’re so upset about it
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Probably skips arm day and can't summon the strength to raise a hand.
 
socallefty said:
Shortened formats - match TBs, no ad, fast-four sets.
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No ad scoring would be great for the game. It would shorten games, and there would be more service breaks. However, changes in tennis are usually only change for the sake of change, not something that will make the game more interesting.
 
Hard Court said:
No ad scoring would be great for the game. It would shorten games, and there would be more service breaks. However, changes in tennis are usually only change for the sake of change, not something that will make the game more interesting.
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Shorter games and more breaks make the game less interesting for me. I like the long deuce games the best in a set when I play or watch. I like sets with 1 break where the break is worth a lot as happens often on the ATP tour. On the WTA tour and at lower levels, there are too many breaks of serve for me to enjoy it. When I play I consider the matches where I didn’t get broken as the ones I played the best.
 
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