What is Wawrinka's peak level?

[TennisSprout]

I always wonder whether Wawrinka's peak level on clay is better than Federer. After all, out of 23 meetings, he only scored 3 wins over Federer on clay. Also, he beat Federer and Djokovic to win his FO title in 2015, which made me suspect that at his peak level, Wawrinka is a formidable opponent for anyone on clay.

On HC, Wawrinka had 2 HC major titles, one over Nadal in 2014 AO, the other one over Djokovic in 2016 USO. What is his peak level at HC against Federer, Djokovic, Nadal, Murray? Considering Wawrinka never beat Federer on HC, he should be a level below Federer. However, Wawrinka always gave trouble to Djokovic when they played on Grand Slams, and Djokovic is the second best player on HC. So this made Wawrinka'S peak level at HC on par with HC ATG's level?

On grass, I believe Wawrinka was kind of mediocre, far worse than Federer, also a level below Djokovic, Murray, and Nadal.

What do you think?

 

[GrassCourtFan]

It's over nine thousand.

 

[AngryBirds]

FO 2017 final. That was his peak level.

 

[nick_crompton]

Wawrinka's peak on clay would be much higher than Federer's, and it has been and always will be. Fed's game simply wasn't built for clay. He opted out of the clay swing this season, and really hasn't done much on the surface as of late.

FO 2015 Stan on clay would be pretty hard to beat, but maybe FO 2017 was his peak in terms of performance alone. Mentally, FO 2015 was his peak.

 

[AllCourtHeathen]

We talking about Stanley? Or Stanimal? Two different beasts. Peak Stanimal is almost unplayable.

 

[Mazz Retic]

Wawrinka's peak on clay would be much higher than Federer's, and it has been and always will be. Fed's game simply wasn't built for clay. He opted out of the clay swing this season, and really hasn't done much on the surface as of late.

FO 2015 Stan on clay would be pretty hard to beat, but maybe FO 2017 was his peak in terms of performance alone. Mentally, FO 2015 was his peak.

Some people overrate federers ability. Here you've most certainly understated his clay game and given no statistics or matches to show why wawrinka is clearly ahead of federer peak for peak.

 

[ForumMember]

At what age Wawrinka peak happened?

 

[BHServe]

We talking about Stanley? Or Stanimal? Two different beasts. Peak Stanimal is almost unplayable.

What about Stanislas? Somewhere between Stanley and Stanimal?

 

[AllCourtHeathen]

Stanislas is just Stanley that forgets how to speak english for a spell. Nebbish.

Stanley/Stanimal are like smeagol/gollum.

 

[Rafa the King]

RG 2015 for me

 

[junior74]

Stanislas is just Stanley that forgets how to speak english for a spell. Nebbish.

Stanley/Stanimal are like smeagol/gollum.

I would say more like Stanley Ipkiss and The Mask:

 

[TheAverageFedererFan]

2015 RG. Played like a god against Federer, Tsonga and Djokovic.

 

[Fedole]

Yes 2015 RG. I'd say AUS '14 and USO '16 are similar levels, although the court down in Aus suited him better. The peak-iest player of his generation - I hope we get to see it once more.