What is with the Croat serve?

Duzza

Legend
Ancic, Ivanisevic, Karlovic, Llubicic all have that same wind up action at the start. Is it something they are taught or just a natural thing for them all?
 

Max G.

Legend
My guess is that all of the younger generation modeled their serve off of Goran's. There might be a better reason, but I can't think of one.
 

HyperHorse

Banned
The quick motion service action is an old classic.
Other players who used this basic principle were Henri Lacoste and Roscoe Tanner, so its not just the Croats...
 

Duzza

Legend
naturalgut said:
Goran Ivanisevic's serve looks very similar to Ljubicic as well
Yeah that's what I'm saying. All of them have that same start up motion, that bend of the knees with the racquet way in front. Sorry, I've never seen Marin Cilic play Ivanisevic.
 
Duzza said:
Yeah that's what I'm saying. All of them have that same start up motion, that bend of the knees with the racquet way in front. Sorry, I've never seen Marin Cilic play Ivanisevic.

HAHA
I was referring to Duzza
 

croatian sensation

Professional
Well there is one thing that also helps- All 5 mentioned players- Ljubicic,Ancic,Ivanisevic,Karlovic and Cilic (although I don't know if his serve is comparable to the other 4) are between 6' 3" and 6' 8" ;-)
 

Andres

G.O.A.T.
croatian sensation said:
Well there is one thing that also helps- All 5 mentioned players- Ljubicic,Ancic,Ivanisevic,Karlovic and Cilic (although I don't know if his serve is comparable to the other 4) are between 6' 3" and 6' 8" ;-)
Actually, 6'10'', even better.

HyperHorse, Goran's serve isn't similar to Tanner's.

The croaching motion is something Goran developed LATER in his career. Around 92-93, he barely stand there, and then, TOSS, BEND, AND BOOM!!

Ljubicic has a similar stance, but with his elbow fully extended, opposed to Goran, who had a bent arm. Plus, he moves the racquet back and forth a couple of times, and doesn't rotate his trunk as much as Goran did. And his delivery wasn't as fast, he tosses higher, and let the ball drop a little more.

Acasuso has an ALMOST EXACT service motion than Ljubicic.

Indeed, Mario has a more similar serve to Krajicek, but he bends his torso much more than Goran, and exaggerates the elbow bend.

Of them all, Ivo has a more Goranesque serve, but since he uses an Eastern BH grip on every serve, he was a diff wrist position in his stance, and he rotates his entire body a little less than Goran.
 

araghava

Rookie
The interesting thing about Goran's serve is his position when starting. Most great servers start by facing the sideline. This allows them to rotate into the serve. Goran seems to start by facing the server/baseline. If you look in the photo above, he is facing directly down the court. His feet are pointing directly down the court. This is very unusual for a big server.
 
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