What loses tension faster Hyper G 17 or Hyper G Soft

agree with DropWideShot.
I actually replied to the thread title, not to your first post which asks the same but in a different way and requesting more info lol
 

LOBALOT

Hall of Fame
I think this whole Hyper G being great at holding tension is not the case when one actually strings it often and tracks its performance over time. My son has used it for quite some time and I string and monitor his racquets pretty closely. It sheds tension pretty quickly.

I am less familiar with Hyper G soft as less tournament kids use it and the older players I string for don't care for it either but it wouldn't surprise me if it has similar performance.

I would guess just from looking every 2 out of 3 tournament and college players use it so Solinco has done a great job marketing (giving it for free) to the schools and then the juniors see the college kids using it and it is "green" and all so then they use it.

It is on par with its competition. No better and no worse.
 

18x20 ftw

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I’ve played a lot more of the regular hyper g (4 or 5 reels in 16 and 17 gauges), and hit I think 3 string jobs of hyper g soft. I have found hyper g to be one of the best in class at tension maintenance. The elasticity will go down but when I track the tension of the stringbed I’ve been amazed. I string it at 52 pounds and after a week or week and half of hitting it’ll still show ~48 pounds. Now the stringbed does get a little more “harsh”, and for the first time in a long time I’ve had to move away from the hyper g as if you wait a touch too long to restring my arm feels pain.
 

DropWideShot

New User
I think this whole Hyper G being great at holding tension is not the case when one actually strings it often and tracks its performance over time. My son has used it for quite some time and I string and monitor his racquets pretty closely. It sheds tension pretty quickly.

I would guess just from looking every 2 out of 3 tournament and college players use it so Solinco has done a great job marketing (giving it for free) to the schools and then the juniors see the college kids using it and it is "green" and all so then they use it.
I doubt Solinco would be where they are today if they just gave the string for free. Im sure their top users get a special deals but there are too many schools for the free model to work. At the right tension solinco strings do perform better than most of the well known brands, otherwise you wouldn't see so many competitive players who actually have to pay for the string using it.
 

LOBALOT

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I doubt Solinco would be where they are today if they just gave the string for free. Im sure their top users get a special deals but there are too many schools for the free model to work. At the right tension solinco strings do perform better than most of the well known brands, otherwise you wouldn't see so many competitive players who actually have to pay for the string using it.

It works really well. Just ask Apple. That is how they got their start when IBM/MS were king. Where are they now?

You don't see many schools getting Yonex, Babolat, Technifibre, Gamma, Head, etc. deals. But you do with Solinco.

My measurements disagree but I really didn't want to start a debate. Strung at 50 I am seeing lower 40s after the first hit but this is with college kids.

I string about 4 reels a year of it on my Alpha Ghost 2.

I am not saying it is awful but it certainly is no better than other strings out there.
 

DropWideShot

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It works really well. Just ask Apple. That is how they got their start when IBM/MS were king. Where are they now?

You don't see many schools getting Yonex, Babolat, Technifibre, Gamma, Head, etc. deals. But you do with Solinco.

My measurements disagree but I really didn't want to start a debate. Strung at 50 I am seeing lower 40s after the first hit but this is with college kids.

I string about 4 reels a year of it on my Alpha Ghost 2.

I am not saying it is awful but it certainly is no better than other strings out there.
No doubt, I think every company does it to some degree especially when they are newcomers or introducing new products. I actually know Technifibre was offering schools thousands of dollar in free gear to get college programs to use their stuff somewhat recently and Head has offered many free reels to any half decent program who was willing to use their new string. I’m somewhat new to Solinco gear as I used the usual suspects before but when I did a side by side comparison I realized I could save a little money and get better performance with Solinco
 

LOBALOT

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No doubt, I think every company does it to some degree especially when they are newcomers or introducing new products. I actually know Technifibre was offering schools thousands of dollar in free gear to get college programs to use their stuff somewhat recently and Head has offered many free reels to any half decent program who was willing to use their new string. I’m somewhat new to Solinco gear as I used the usual suspects before but when I did a side by side comparison I realized I could save a little money and get better performance with Solinco

They are cheaper and they offer a variety of strings suitable for advanced players I don't question. I simply feel they are no better or worse than others in how they perform.

I guess what gets me out here is how every string answer is Hyper G. I just saw a thread on best ball bite and you just knew it was coming and sure enough Hyper G was suggested. Now if someone with the proper technique that can rip the cover off the ball uses Hyper G they can probably get ball bite out of anything including it. However, there are sharper strings out there from a texture and snap back standpoint we all know that. Similar as the best cross for gut (Before they offered round) similarly... Hyper G pops up even though it is not round. Likewise tension maintenance and boom Hyper G is suggested but we can look at data and see there are better strings out there for tension maintenance.

Anyway, that is my rant and note as I indicated my son uses it as a college player and his school offers it up to the players so I mean I get it is decent string but I just think there are a lot of decent strings out there and how much of this all is just players caught up in the hype.
 

eric42

Rookie
They are cheaper and they offer a variety of strings suitable for advanced players I don't question. I simply feel they are no better or worse than others in how they perform.

I guess what gets me out here is how every string answer is Hyper G. I just saw a thread on best ball bite and you just knew it was coming and sure enough Hyper G was suggested. Now if someone with the proper technique that can rip the cover off the ball uses Hyper G they can probably get ball bite out of anything including it. However, there are sharper strings out there from a texture and snap back standpoint we all know that. Similar as the best cross for gut (Before they offered round) similarly... Hyper G pops up even though it is not round. Likewise tension maintenance and boom Hyper G is suggested but we can look at data and see there are better strings out there for tension maintenance.

Anyway, that is my rant and note as I indicated my son uses it as a college player and his school offers it up to the players so I mean I get it is decent string but I just think there are a lot of decent strings out there and how much of this all is just players caught up in the hype.
Yeah totally agree. Hyper G is fine, not special in the spin department, has a somewhat soft plastic feel. I've tried a whole bunch of different strings and the obsession so many have over string details and differences is a little wild considering so many poly strings of the same gauge don't actually play that much different from tons of others. Yeah you have a few on the extreme soft and firm ends, but most are somewhat in the middle and pretty interchangeable. And I get just as much spin with round strings as I do shaped strings. Buy whatever color you like and whatever name you think is cool like Sushi Sniper Max or whatever.
 

ClownCar96

Professional
Breaking news: all polys loose tension quickly if you are hitting the ball hard. I’m talking bash sessions not doubles where you strike the ball every 10 minutes. I’ve measured many strings extensively with an ert 300, a $250 Swiss made device that measures dynamic tension. Almost all polys will measure 34 or 35 DT (50lb) off the stringer (when stung at 50-52lb) and drop to 29 or 30 DT (42lb) after the first big hit. Again, I’m talking 2 hrs of heavy hitting singles not doubles.

I think the bigger standard besides tension is playability… some of them you can keep playing for a while after this big drop. Others, the characteristics change too drastically where you have to change your game too significantly to accommodate
 
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LOBALOT

Hall of Fame
No breaking news here. That has been my point Hyper G is just like the rest.

Some may like it and that is a matter of personal preference but it is not the be all - end all string as we see out here on TT in the threads.
 

socallefty

G.O.A.T.
They are cheaper and they offer a variety of strings suitable for advanced players I don't question. I simply feel they are no better or worse than others in how they perform.

I guess what gets me out here is how every string answer is Hyper G. I just saw a thread on best ball bite and you just knew it was coming and sure enough Hyper G was suggested. Now if someone with the proper technique that can rip the cover off the ball uses Hyper G they can probably get ball bite out of anything including it. However, there are sharper strings out there from a texture and snap back standpoint we all know that. Similar as the best cross for gut (Before they offered round) similarly... Hyper G pops up even though it is not round. Likewise tension maintenance and boom Hyper G is suggested but we can look at data and see there are better strings out there for tension maintenance.

Anyway, that is my rant and note as I indicated my son uses it as a college player and his school offers it up to the players so I mean I get it is decent string but I just think there are a lot of decent strings out there and how much of this all is just players caught up in the hype.
I tried about 10 different poly crosses about five years ago and liked Hyper G the best. When HG Soft was introduced I liked it even better, So I’ve been using HG Soft as my cross since it was introduced. I’m not using HyperG or HyperG Soft because college players use it a lot - just liked it the best when I tried out different strings (round and shaped) for almost a year during practice drills.
 

SinneGOAT

Hall of Fame
It seemed like HG goes dead faster than HG Soft for me. And this happens faster for me than tension loss becoming a problem.
Agreed here. Used standard for a year then soft for 2 and 2 would last longer and I had to restring less often due to tension. Weirdly hyper g soft holds tension and playability better for me.
 
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