drakulie
Talk Tennis Guru
Hmmmmmm. :roll:
Now that we know your life history, and all the "stuff" you have>>>> where is the video. ?
What ntrp rating is this guy with a huge serve?
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Hmmmmmm. :roll:
Now that we know your life history, and all the "stuff" you have>>>> where is the video. ?
onehandbh
G.O.A.T.
That's okay. Lots of people, young & old (well up to 50-ish)
have digital still cameras/cell phones that take video and
can update it for you very easily. I think everyone I know
knows how to do this.
I have 1 surfboard (6'4" shortboard), 1 kite, and
1 broom and accessory (dust pan).
smoothtennis
Hall of Fame
Lee, Lee, Lee.........you may not own a computer, but you are using one to create posts on this forum yes? 
Sounds like you are having a rough day. Cheer up bro.
Sounds like you are having a rough day. Cheer up bro.
You know, now that I've had 45 years to rethink my strategy, it would not have been a terrible idea to get a camera and ask my friends to sit around and shoot.
Of course, my friends would always want to DO, not Vid.......
Let's see.... 4A surfing, California...over 30 trophies.
One third place overall trophy for 250 production RR
By the time I made ExpertNovice, maybe 80 odd trophies...MX
2 SantaCruz Slalom overall trophies... windsurfing wave slalom
1 Stroh's WorldCup top amateur trophy...windsurfing
more than 10 tennis trophies as I advanced from C to B, but I
didn't accept them all, I was homeless and had no storage
You know, you go thru life thinking you make the right choices, but upon further review........
Nah, life's good. I windsurf 200 days a year during the season, play tennis most days out of season, still surf maybe 20 days a year, and have lots of time to read and kill each and every day. Planning to snowboard a few too, as my boards are sitting around tuned, waxed, and ready now for 3 years.
Of course, my friends would always want to DO, not Vid.......
Let's see.... 4A surfing, California...over 30 trophies.
One third place overall trophy for 250 production RR
By the time I made ExpertNovice, maybe 80 odd trophies...MX
2 SantaCruz Slalom overall trophies... windsurfing wave slalom
1 Stroh's WorldCup top amateur trophy...windsurfing
more than 10 tennis trophies as I advanced from C to B, but I
didn't accept them all, I was homeless and had no storage
You know, you go thru life thinking you make the right choices, but upon further review........
Nah, life's good. I windsurf 200 days a year during the season, play tennis most days out of season, still surf maybe 20 days a year, and have lots of time to read and kill each and every day. Planning to snowboard a few too, as my boards are sitting around tuned, waxed, and ready now for 3 years.
ST...
The computer I use is from CalSailingClub. It's used to process new members, newsletters, print bulletins, and all that jazz to run a sailing windsurfing club.
I come in off hours to bug you guys, just for my fun. It's maybe not Pentium speeds, so takes a while to log in vids.
I"m also on SurferMag and Swaylocks forums, and I windsurf forums.
Lotsa time, nothing to do......
The computer I use is from CalSailingClub. It's used to process new members, newsletters, print bulletins, and all that jazz to run a sailing windsurfing club.
I come in off hours to bug you guys, just for my fun. It's maybe not Pentium speeds, so takes a while to log in vids.
I"m also on SurferMag and Swaylocks forums, and I windsurf forums.
Lotsa time, nothing to do......
Djokovicfan4life
Legend
Hmmm, you say you come here in "off hours"? You're on here at all hours of the day, it seems to me.
onehandbh
G.O.A.T.
Do you live in California?
drakulie
Talk Tennis Guru
Thanks, glad you enjoyed the vid.
A lot of posters feel their is a forward wrist snap in the serve. I did the video to show it is not a forward snap, rather a rolling of the entire arm (pronation).
Djokovicfan4life
Legend
Link please? It always puzzled me that people thought of pronation as the wrist rolling over. It's physically impossible to pronate the wrist without pronating the forearm as well, it just seems obvious to me.
drakulie
Talk Tennis Guru
Here you go:: the slow mo video of the arm rolling starts at 2:33.
^^Exactly. Not much one can do with serves like that. Just look and admire.
BTW, Mike>> I purchased a casio Ex-f1. Really cool camera. The high speed is awesome. I shot one close up vid of my arm on the serve to see if their is a wrist snap or what??? during the swing. My arm just rolls ( no snap). You could see the vid here (it starts at 2:33).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgoCWFnS5kU
Let me know your thoughts, and being that you are a camera guru, let me knwo if there is anything I could do different to make the video clearer (ISO, shutter Speed, etc)
Djokovicfan4life
Legend
Your service motion is rather comparable to Sampras's, especially the exaggerated pronation during the follow through. Have you ever considered making any instructional videos?
drakulie
Talk Tennis Guru
^^^Other than the stance, it's actually more like Couriers. My takeback is semi-abbreviated just like couriers.
I'm probably going to be working with an instructor where I live to do some instructional vids, and also film students at high speed to break dwon there strokes for them.
I'm probably going to be working with an instructor where I live to do some instructional vids, and also film students at high speed to break dwon there strokes for them.
Djokovicfan4life
Legend
He knows what he's doing, Puma. He made that part to show what is really happening in the serve instead of this garbage about "wrist snap". The guy plays a very high level of tennis.
fluffy Beaver
Professional
Funny, m27 has logged on everyday but his last post was the one saying he'd get a vid of himself tonight (of which tonight was 2-3 days ago).
Has this thread tamed his ever so strong ego?
He's close to 29 post per day now....
Has this thread tamed his ever so strong ego?
Hmmm, you say you come here in "off hours"? You're on here at all hours of the day, it seems to me.
He's close to 29 post per day now....
Ballinbob
Hall of Fame
My god lol, thats crazy. And Lee, how can you possibly not have a camera,comp,ipod ect...? Its the 21st century buddy, wake up and go outside sometime. Thats just not a valid excuse for you not to post a vid. Back any of your claims with you serving 130mph,running a 4.5s 40 yard dash, and getting all these trophies. Heck you can just take a picture of your trophies, no video camera needed. I don't get how you played all these sports and excelled to this high level in all of them. Varsity football,windsurfing,surfing,tennis, and with all that you run a flippen 4.5s 40yd dash and you dont run track. And it seems like you went to state for all these sports. This is pretty much impossible, to be in all these sports and excell this much. Was your whole life sports as a kid? What about school,girls,friends,movies...? Even if it was that is still hard as hell. I mean I'm dedicated to track+tennis, but to excel like you did at these sports is ridiculous. How did you not manage to go pro with all this? Do you know how fast a 4.5s 40yd dash is or a 130mph serve? A 4.5s 40yd dash is -DAMN- fast, especially if you don't even run track. What in the world stopped you from making it pro..? If I had a 130mph serve and a 4.5s 40yd dash then I guarantee you I would make it at the VERY VERY least to a top DI college when im 18. Plus your a lefty, another advantage right there...
Am I the only one that thinks this?
Okazaki Fragment
Semi-Pro
Of what he has said of his bio and lifestyle, he probably had to take care of a pet magical dragon named Puff.
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Ha ha, good stuff, you guys.....
And when I go up to the courts tomorrow to borrow a camera, I'd end up getting pics 35 years after my tournament days!
As for the 4.4 40's and 5.3 50's, that would be maybe 1963, so the photos would be a little ..... askewed?
As for turning pro.... Yes, I tried, I entered a couple pro qualifiers. Guess what, everyone who plays those are not impressed with 129 serves, don't care about my fetching skills and speed, and hit harder groundies more consistently.
One major problem with starting a new sport at 24 is that ya gotta work enough to pay rent, food, gas, some entertainment change, and nobody bails you out when you fail.
And this after TWO major compounds, with over 20 little pieces of hardware and wire floating around the tib/fibs.
See, I was pretty agile and quick BEFORE I got into high school sports.
Didn't start tennis till 8 years and two major surgery breaks later.
And when I go up to the courts tomorrow to borrow a camera, I'd end up getting pics 35 years after my tournament days!
As for the 4.4 40's and 5.3 50's, that would be maybe 1963, so the photos would be a little ..... askewed?
As for turning pro.... Yes, I tried, I entered a couple pro qualifiers. Guess what, everyone who plays those are not impressed with 129 serves, don't care about my fetching skills and speed, and hit harder groundies more consistently.
One major problem with starting a new sport at 24 is that ya gotta work enough to pay rent, food, gas, some entertainment change, and nobody bails you out when you fail.
And this after TWO major compounds, with over 20 little pieces of hardware and wire floating around the tib/fibs.
See, I was pretty agile and quick BEFORE I got into high school sports.
Didn't start tennis till 8 years and two major surgery breaks later.
Djokovicfan4life
Legend
Ballinbob
Hall of Fame
Oh man, now he runs a 4.4s 40yd dash not a 4.5. And just a FYI for those who don't know the fastest 40yd dash in the WORLD is around 4.2s. How the hell were they not "impressed" with 130mph serves? I'm pretty sure you could hold your ground pretty easily with a 130mph at the pro level, and back that up with a 4.4s 40yd dash then you can beat alot of guys at the pro level. Hell, who needs footwork with a 4.4? Your basically flying to the ball.... This sounds like some BS, I mean wouldnt you be able to hold serve pretty easily with a 130mph lefty serve at the pro level? Also, after you hit that 130mph serve of yours you could have flown to the net like Superman and been in PERFECT position to volley that thing away. Simon serves around 110-115 (i think) and I guarantee you that you would have won a good number of games off of him with a huge serve like that. I'm serious, if I had those a 130mph serve+4.4 40yd dash I would make it to a DI school at the very,very least when I'm 18 (and im sure every other teen would as well). If not that then I would go and try and break the world record for the fastest 40...
edit-lmao, a dragon named puff. That's classic haha, good stuff
edit again- Lee, ask anyone here, what your saying doesnt make sense. ASK ANYONE
edit-lmao, a dragon named puff. That's classic haha, good stuff
edit again- Lee, ask anyone here, what your saying doesnt make sense. ASK ANYONE
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Azzurri
Legend
I can't even believe people still argue this supposed "wrist snap"..amazing.
oneguy21
Banned
LeeD, post some videos of you hitting some balls and serving. No excuses...just do it as soon as you can.
Azzurri
Legend
awesome video man...just terrific. Necktie looks dangerous and who is Penteraka?
Djokovicfan4life
Legend
Azzurri
Legend
Don't get any ideas, Azzurri.
ha ha...already showed my wife the video.
she thinks Pantera is too young for me and she would kick my *** on the court.
Don't get any ideas, Azzurri.
Hah she is quite cute.
Mike Cottrill
Hall of Fame
Normally, ISO terminology refers to Still shots and Gain refers to Video. However, the Casio is hybrid camera and might use ISO for both still shots and video.
Generally the lower ISO/Gain settings are ideal for higher quality stills/videos. A higher ISO/Gain will in most cases increase the noise. Like a using rabbit ears to view a weak TV channel; grainy and fuzzy. The reason to use higher ISO/Gain is for low light situations or when a high shutter speed is needed to stop an action scene when there is not enough light causing the image to be dark. The goal is to use a shutter speed fast enough to stop the action (no movement blur) on each frame, bright frame and keeping the noise (grain) to a minimum.
The three main settings on the camera to be concerned with are:
1) Shutter Speed,
2) Gain/ISO
3) Aperture
Scene Setup:
For best results: If possible film on a bright sunny day with the sun behind the camera.
Try setting the camera to Shutter Speed Priority AE mode. Try using a shutter speed of 1/4000 of a second. In most cases this should be fast enough to eliminate motion blur. In the Shutter Speed Priority AE mode the camera will automatically set the aperture. Start with the camera with an ISO of 200. If the camera is unable to attain the correct exposure, it may warn you. If not you video will be dark. I have not seen this camera, but in the video mode it may automatically boost the ISO/Gain, but no big deal if it does not. If video is dark, try changing the ISO to 400 and up until the video is properly exposed.
Summary,
Set camera to Shutter Speed Priority AE mode
Set shutter speed to 1/2000sec or 1/4000sec
Set ISO to 200
Take test shots and check the results on your computer.
If there is still motion blur, up the shutter speed
If video is dark, up the ISO/Gain
Retest.
If you can not get a good picture, then you may have to use the manual mode and manually adjust the other settings.
Let me know how it goes. BTW, when you film serves, turn the camera on end. That will allow you to get more of the server in the frame.
There is also so good stuff on FYB:
http://www.fuzzyyellowballs.com/articles/index.php/list/940/Filming_Your_Tennis_Strokes
Hope this helps
BTW, what happened the blond girl in your video that used to post on TW?
You have a very unique or unorthodox way of serving. Most would probably get a sore shoulder from rolling their arm serving like that. I've seen two other people serve with that motion, one was because he was self-taught and got use to it, the other had shoulder surgery and couldn't serve without pain using the "conventional" way so he started rolling his arm. I would say you have a pendulum type of serve but if anyone tried to copy that, they probably wouldn't be as effective as you.
FedererISBetter
Rookie
lol, my pro is top 5 for his age group in the world and hes doing 5.0 NTRP.. of course I have to keep his name classified >
4.5 and 5.0 league teams can be scary at sectionals... never been to 5.0 nationals but there some pretty darn sketchy players on there lol. Always rumors spreading around like, " he was paid to be on this team" stuff like that.
Djokovicfan4life
Legend
What are you talking about? Drak's technique is the same as every good server's.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fHO7dnt2eY&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7Sc6SYtysM
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Moz
Hall of Fame
lol, my pro is top 5 for his age group in the world and hes doing 5.0 NTRP.. of course I have to keep his name classified >
What age group is he in out of curiousity? Is he based out of VA?
drakulie
Talk Tennis Guru
Mike, thanks for all the info! I'll definitely try it out. The girl (croation sensation) doesn't post anymore. (or at least, not that I have seen).
BOINK!
nealry everyone who has good mechanics will roll thier arm in the manner you see in that video.
In addition to the links provided by Djokovicfan4life, here is one of Roddick:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCQP79ZMtgk
it is nearly idenitcal to mine.
The reason people feel "pain", is because they don't roll their arm naturally, and instead try to force a "forward wrist snap", and then pronate.
Azzurri
Legend
I have no clue where you got this idea. Drak has a typical serve. In fact, the arm rotation is perfect.
FedererISBetter
Rookie
Moz
Hall of Fame
If he is 5 in the 55's in the current rankings he is an Australian whom I have met a couple of times in tournaments. If that's the guy you mean I suspect you have made an excellent choice. He's great to watch in a match aswell.
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BallinBob....
I'm addressing you because you are honest with your ability and seem to show some interest in getting better at tennis, not just looking for a pat on the head like some others.
130 is no big thing in 6.0 or higher level tennis. Even the 6.0 WOMEN's practiced against my serve.
Much more importance than sheer speed is placement during stress and crucial points.
Speed. Speed is useless if you constantly get wrong footed. It only takes you farther from the ball.
And remember, I didn't say I was all that fast....remember me saying the other guys would lope past after 50 yards?
You see, explosive jumping ability has little to do with ultimate speed.
Remember I said that now that I'm 59, I could only standinglongjump just over 6' ??
Well, think about this. At 60, I'd have lost 30% of my physical skills. Now compute that back to 14 years old.... I standing long jumped mid 9's. Just about right !!
And why would you want to see vids of 59 + 11 month old guys when we're trying to get YOU to improve YOUR tennis.
My tennis skills have been declining for over 30 years.
I'm addressing you because you are honest with your ability and seem to show some interest in getting better at tennis, not just looking for a pat on the head like some others.
130 is no big thing in 6.0 or higher level tennis. Even the 6.0 WOMEN's practiced against my serve.
Much more importance than sheer speed is placement during stress and crucial points.
Speed. Speed is useless if you constantly get wrong footed. It only takes you farther from the ball.
And remember, I didn't say I was all that fast....remember me saying the other guys would lope past after 50 yards?
You see, explosive jumping ability has little to do with ultimate speed.
Remember I said that now that I'm 59, I could only standinglongjump just over 6' ??
Well, think about this. At 60, I'd have lost 30% of my physical skills. Now compute that back to 14 years old.... I standing long jumped mid 9's. Just about right !!
And why would you want to see vids of 59 + 11 month old guys when we're trying to get YOU to improve YOUR tennis.
My tennis skills have been declining for over 30 years.
[osu]ilovecows
Rookie
So then you're basically a 60 year old whose holding on to your past glories because you don't have any new ones to talk about? Really, your priorities are a bit messed up. 90% of the time, all I see you doing is telling others how your advice is the best and bragging about your past achievements. Only 10% of the time do I see you offering actual advice. You'd have to be one of the biggest garbage posters I've seen on this board.
Azzurri
Legend
She has a beautiful long stroke. She must have been a nice player in her day. She was wearing slippers for christ's sake!!
I just bought a Head PT 280. As of now, still waiting for my club to get their demo. Won't even bother to buy one unless I hit with one. Honestly, lost all excitement a while back.
by the way, those black oscillates felt softer than my normal pair (they are the 07 re-intruced ones). I know the sole material is a little different. They feel softer though. Terrific shoe!
She has a beautiful long stroke. She must have been a nice player in her day. She was wearing slippers for christ's sake!!
I just bought a Head PT 280. As of now, still waiting for my club to get their demo. Won't even bother to buy one unless I hit with one. Honestly, lost all excitement a while back.
by the way, those black oscillates felt softer than my normal pair (they are the 07 re-intruced ones). I know the sole material is a little different. They feel softer though. Terrific shoe!
black oscillates? where?
jasoncho92
Professional
Just dont pay attention to him anymore brah. The thing that pissed me off most when i first saw him posting was the way he spaced every single god damn sentence. He states his credentials that have nothing to do with the topic and also brags about how good he is. You also add on the fact he has no idea what hes talking about for NTRP ratings, i see a troll or just an old guy who used to be good at tennis but doesnt know the generalities of the game. Can you tell me at what age he said he could serve 130 mph and run a 4.4 40m dash?
Just more nonsense from all the fantasy posters and tennis "teachers" on this board.
A few minor factual corrections:
Mcenroe usually served his flat serve between 100-110mph in the early 90's before he retired. The fastest I saw him hit was 115mph. This was early 90's radar and thus much slower than the ones today. He clocked a 128mph serve on the seniors tour!
Connors' flat serve was at about the same speed depending on which motion/stage of his career it was. Though Lee claims Connors chronically asked the speed reading to be turned off, Connor's didn't even play when a radar display was standard issue at tournaments. In the few tournies at the very end of his career when there was a panel I did not see him ever ask for it to be turned off, though it's possible he may. Jim Courier on the other hand hated the radar displays. Having said that, Connors really had nothing to be embarassed of and probably couldn't care less what the display said. He might asked for it to be turned off just a psychological game but his serve was effective enough for decades and he wasn't trying to fool anybody into thinking he was a big server. In fact, Connors would probably get off on beating an opponent while hitting "slow" serves.
Again, directed towards Lee, Sampras was quite capable of hitting WELL over 100mph on a similar wide serve. That serve was not particularly wide. In fact, it was not a heavy slice, but a mild slice with quite a bit of speed. Sampras could hit a serve like this in the 120-125 mph range. Sampras did sometimes hit extreme breaking serves, these serves would land 2-6 feet up the service box and then break sideways into the fence. On a court like this, they wouldn't go anywhere near the corner but hit WAY WAY up the side fence, Sampras usually hit THESE types of serves in the 90-100mph range.
A few minor factual corrections:
Mcenroe usually served his flat serve between 100-110mph in the early 90's before he retired. The fastest I saw him hit was 115mph. This was early 90's radar and thus much slower than the ones today. He clocked a 128mph serve on the seniors tour!
Connors' flat serve was at about the same speed depending on which motion/stage of his career it was. Though Lee claims Connors chronically asked the speed reading to be turned off, Connor's didn't even play when a radar display was standard issue at tournaments. In the few tournies at the very end of his career when there was a panel I did not see him ever ask for it to be turned off, though it's possible he may. Jim Courier on the other hand hated the radar displays. Having said that, Connors really had nothing to be embarassed of and probably couldn't care less what the display said. He might asked for it to be turned off just a psychological game but his serve was effective enough for decades and he wasn't trying to fool anybody into thinking he was a big server. In fact, Connors would probably get off on beating an opponent while hitting "slow" serves.
Again, directed towards Lee, Sampras was quite capable of hitting WELL over 100mph on a similar wide serve. That serve was not particularly wide. In fact, it was not a heavy slice, but a mild slice with quite a bit of speed. Sampras could hit a serve like this in the 120-125 mph range. Sampras did sometimes hit extreme breaking serves, these serves would land 2-6 feet up the service box and then break sideways into the fence. On a court like this, they wouldn't go anywhere near the corner but hit WAY WAY up the side fence, Sampras usually hit THESE types of serves in the 90-100mph range.
TheOverlord
New User
you are all wrong, except those that said at least 6.0
the guy in the video is neil Kenner, and here is another youtube video of him competeing in a chellenger event. this means he's 6.0+
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLP3hf-sqOo
for those who said 4.0-5.0, what are you smoking? that's a big serve made by someone who is making $$$ off tennis
the guy in the video is neil Kenner, and here is another youtube video of him competeing in a chellenger event. this means he's 6.0+
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLP3hf-sqOo
for those who said 4.0-5.0, what are you smoking? that's a big serve made by someone who is making $$$ off tennis
His opponents racquet made a weird sound when he hit it
But on topic, yeah, that guy's an amazing player.
TheOverlord
New User
His opponents racquet made a weird sound when he hit it
But on topic, yeah, that guy's an amazing player.
i thought his opponent was better overall, knew he was going to win the match just by seeing how he was more calm and composed than kenner. the sound might be caused by a certain set of strings/tension?
