What NTRP would you guys say these two are?

[d-quik]

Felix Mischker

Andre Szilvassy (dark shirt)

 

[S&V-not_dead_yet]

They can't even keep a rally going! How am I supposed to tell?

When the skill level gets too far beyond my experience [4.5], it's hard to say. I've done drills with 5.0s who I think could hang with these guys [I only watched the beginning of Andre's match] but I have very little experience with 5.5+.

 

[eah123]

Kareem Sell said Felix would find good competition at the US collegiate (NCAA) level, so I would say NTRP 6.0.

 

[ballmachineguy]

One guy picked up a ball with his racquet and shoe and the other bounces the ball between the legs before his serve, so I would say 6.0 easy.

 

[Rosstour]

I'd say both 5.0 at least but yeah it can get murky trying to divine 5.5 from 6.0 if you don't run into players like that very often.

 

[zill]

Felix Mischker

Andre Szilvassy (dark shirt)

5.5 not 6.0

 

[S&V-not_dead_yet]

Kareem Sell said Felix would find good competition at the US collegiate (NCAA) level, so I would say NTRP 6.0.

"US collegiate" covers a lot of NTRP ground: at least down to 4.5 if not 4.0.

"US collegiate National Champion powerhouses" like UCLA, where Karue played, are a different story.

6.0 is professional. These guys aren't at that level [yet].

 

[Dakota C]

At/above 5.0 is very difficult to discern from match play, only results over time show a good picture - here's why - The Gap

 

[Jonesy]

Isn't Felix playing at the pro level? Last i heard he was going for his first singles atp point.

 

[mad dog1]

Felix Mischker

Andre Szilvassy (dark shirt)

Felix’s UTR rating is 11.xx
Andre’s UTR rating is 12.xx

 

[Bill Lobsalot]

Can't really tell just watching this. Some guys without the greatest strokes have an uncanny ability to win. (McEnroe)

 

[pencilcheck]

they hit really fast btw, their serve is really fast too. they just need to string 4 shots to win sooner than the opponent then they win, don't need to really hold a rally.

 

[Rafaboy]

its hard to say. when are they going to start playing? seems like all they can do is serve.

 

[TennisCJC]

Those are open level players. Something between 5.0 and 7.0.

 

[socallefty]

Somewhere between 6.0 to 6.5 - hard to guess just from video. Their level looks like what you see in small ATP Challenger tournaments.

 

[fuzz nation]

After watching the "Andre" video up to about 14:30, I'm not seeing any rallies. Both guys look like pretty good athletes, but they're not putting anything together. I'd say that what they're producing so far is a reeeeeeally weak 4.5 level, but I'll cheer up if they turn in a couple of rallies with shot totals closer to ten hits than only three or four.

Wow... yep, after a few more minutes, all I'm seeing is the same style that's everywhere among the high school ranks I've seen after coaching for a lot of years. These guys don't know how to get a lot of first serves in the box and how NOT to routinely overhit and donate lots of errors to the other guy. I'd give them a 4.5 on a good day, but I hope that this footage is a not-so-good-day for either one.