What should Roger's pared down schedule for 2018 look like according to you?

[nikdom]

If you ask me, Roger should never again chase No.1; If it happens, it happens. But playing a schedule designed to garner more ranking points with No.1 as a goal is going to end in more disappointments than happy endings at tournaments he actually cares about.

With this is mind, I think he should really cut out major parts of his 2018 schedule again.

Whether he plays Rome and RG is up to him and how badly he wants a go at them again, but if you ask me skip those as well.

That leaves his schedule like this -
Jan 2018
- Hopman cup
- Australian Open
(almost a month break here)

Feb-March 2018
- Dubai
- Indian Wells? (even this is optional for me)

*skip Miami for sure*

(3.5 months break if he skips clay; 2.5 months is he plays Rome)

May
- Rome?
- RG?

June 2018
- Stuttgart
- Halle

July 2018
- Wimbledon

August
- Cincinnati

Sep
- USO

Laver Cup

Oct -Nov
- Shanghai
- Basel/Paris
- WTF


What would your version look like?

 

[Rafa the King]

I think it'll be like this year, maybe replacing Cinci with Canada, skipping Miami and even skipping Basel
I hope it'll be:
Hopman Cup
AO
IW
ROME
RG
STUTTGART (only if he doesn't make the QF in Paris)
HALLE
WIMBLEDON
CINCI
USO
LAVER CUP
SHANGHAI
WTF

 

[Pagoo]

We were discussing this in the other thread. For me absolutely no clay tournament for starters.

AO
Dubai (optional)
IW
Miami (this is a tough schedule but it's worth defending)
Halle
Wimbledon
Cincy
US open
Shanghai
Basel
WTF (if he qualifies)

I left out Laver cup and Hopman cup because they are not ATP tournaments.

I'm not sure about Stuttgart. He hasn't done well the past two years so probably better to skip. Big no to Bercy after that Forget rant.

 

[nikdom]

We were discussing this in the other thread. For me absolutely no clay tournament for starters.

AO
Dubai (optional)
IW
Miami (this is a tough schedule but it's worth defending)
Halle
Wimbledon
Cincy
US open
Shanghai
Basel
WTF (if he qualifies)

I left out Laver cup and Hopman cup because they are not ATP tournaments.

I'm not sure about Stuttgart. He hasn't done well the past two years so probably better to skip. Big no to Bercy after that Forget rant.

Essentially it's either IW+Miami OR clay season.

I went one step further and took out Clay season plus Miami because the later part of the year is loaded. June-Nov is where the bulk of the action is in terms of HC/Indoor tennis.

 

[Pagoo]

Essentially it's either IW+Miami OR clay season.

I went one step further and took out Clay season plus Miami because the later part of the year is loaded. June-Nov is where the bulk of the action is in terms of HC/Indoor tennis.

I think Roger should focus on winning what he can in the first part of the year. The man is going to be 37 in the second part of the year. I dunno how long he can keep going.

#notoclay

 

[NBP]

Maybe he’ll play a tad more, because he won’t win as much. For me it would be...
Australian Open
Dubai
Indian Wells
Miami (definitely try and defend here)
Rome
Roland Garros
Halle
Wimbledon
Cincinnati
US Open
Basel
Paris
London

It’s better to play Paris than Shanghai, just so he has a much, much longer break after the USO. I wish things like the Hopman Cup and the Laver Cup weren’t played, but he wants to so it’s fine I guess. No way go back to Stuttgart, it’s done him nothing in 2016-17. He won’t defend all three titles early on, so playing just Rome and RG will not kill him. Also he’s missed Cincinnati the past two years and I’m sure he misses it, so Toronto doesn’t need to be played.

 

[fedtennisphan]

We were discussing this in the other thread. For me absolutely no clay tournament for starters.

AO
Dubai (optional)
IW
Miami (this is a tough schedule but it's worth defending)
Halle
Wimbledon
Cincy
US open
Shanghai
Basel
WTF (if he qualifies)

I left out Laver cup and Hopman cup because they are not ATP tournaments.

I'm not sure about Stuttgart. He hasn't done well the past two years so probably better to skip. Big no to Bercy after that Forget rant.

Federer is the brand ambassador for Mercedes-Benz and he plays in Stuttgart as long as he has a commitment with Mercedes-Benz to play there. At you least you don’t have him skipping Basel.

 

[Jackuar]

I think it'll be like this year, maybe replacing Cinci with Canada, skipping Miami and even skipping Basel
I hope it'll be:
Hopman Cup
AO
IW
ROME
RG
STUTTGART (only if he doesn't make the QF in Paris)
HALLE
WIMBLEDON
CINCI
USO
LAVER CUP
SHANGHAI
WTF

Pretty much this

 

[TheMaestro1990]

Hopman Cup (although I'd prefer Brisbane)
AO
Dubai
IW
(MC)
Rome
RG
(Stuttgart)
Halle
Wimbledon
Cincinnati
US Open
(Laver Cup)
(Shanghai)
Basel
(Paris)
WTF

( = Optional depending on rest etc.

 

[Goosehead]

hopman cup exho (seeing as its already sorted).
aussie open.
Dubai.
indian wells,
Miami (defo if loses early in iw but skip if goes deep maybe)
Stuttgart,
halle.
Wimbledon,
Newport (if loses early at wimbly plus its old grand grass tourney he never played)
hardcourt 250/500 (depending on previous results)
cincinatti.
us open.
laver cup exho.
shanghai (maybe)
basle,
world tour finals (lets face it,,he's prob gonna qualify)

so thats 12atp tourneys inc wtf, plus 2 or3 more atp tourneys depending on results elsewhere, 2 exho's.

 

[Tennis_Hands]

Hopman cup.
AO
Dubai
IW
Madrid (if he wants to play on clay)
Halle
Wimbledon
Cincy
USO
Shanghai
Basel
WTF

If he wants to play on clay he may extend to RG, but it depends on how he feels.

Cincy is tricky.

It is too close to USO, so he should play a couple of rounds there and withdraw, because going all the way seriously hurts his chances at the Open.

The other possibility is to find a smaller HC tournament prior to USO, but I don't see him doing that ever.

Stuttgart I don't see why he would play except for appearance fees.

Montreal is a no-no, as is Miami.

 

[Krish872007]

Have a feeling it'll be something like this:

Hopman
Australian Open
Dubai
Indian Wells
Stuttgart
Halle
Wimbledon
Cincinnati
US Open
Basel
World Tour Finals

Could also add in: Miami, maybe the French Open and Shanghai or something similar as he goes along.

 

[eldanger25]

Federer is the brand ambassador for Mercedes-Benz and he plays in Stuttgart as long as he has a commitment with Mercedes-Benz to play there. At you least you don’t have him skipping Basel.

Yeah, Roger is a businessman too, which is why I just don't see him ever skipping somewhere like Shanghai. I think:

Hopman Cup
AO
Dubai
Indian Wells
Stuttgart
Halle
Wimbledon
Cincinnati
The Open
Laver Cup
Shanghai
Basel
YEC

 

[wangs78]

[QUOTE="NBP, post: 11808030, member]

It’s better to play Paris than Shanghai, just so he has a much, much longer break after the USO. I wish things like the Hopman Cup and the Laver Cup weren’t played, but he wants to so it’s fine I guess. No way go back to Stuttgart, it’s done him nothing in 2016-17. He won’t defend all three titles early on, so playing just Rome and RG will not kill him. Also he’s missed Cincinnati the past two years and I’m sure he misses it, so Toronto doesn’t need to be played.[/QUOTE]

I agree with most of your schedule except I think he should still skip clay... just too physically strenuous. And even if he does well on clay, the deeper he goes in a clay tournament the higher the chances he gets bounced in a SF or F by a rival which will hurt his confidence and boost his rival’s later in the year. Also he should skip Paris, not Shanghai. He needs more rest in between tournaments and Paris is too close to the WTF.

The key next year will be for him to come out of the blocks strong like this year. Winning a lot of points at the AO and at Dubai/IW will be key to giving him more optionality wrt which tournaments to play later in the yeAr which is important.

 

[Shaolin]

Roughly the same as this year but play Rome and RG maybe (optional).

Shame that he gets guilt tripped into playing Basel year after year. He should sit that sh*t out and get rested for the WTF.

 

[Soul_Evisceration]

Unlike most, I believe next year he will be playing Roland Garros. Wilson is pushing the new RF97 to be released around that date and we will know Federer loves cash cow moments.

But he should be playing the following:

Hopman Cup
Australian Open
Dubai
Indian Wells
Rome
Roland Garros
Halle
Wimbledon
Cincinnati
USOpen
Shanghai
Paris
London

I have a feeling that you will never see him play Canada nor Indoor Paris ever again. Possibly even Miami.

 

[ohiostate124]

Every Major with 1 warm up beforehand as a start. The warm up tournament would preferably be a 1000 except for Halle. Add Basel, the WTF, and the Laver Cup. Maybe replace the Hopman Cup with Brisbane.

 

[mike danny]

Hopman Cup
AO
Dubai
IW
Halle
Wimb
Cincy
USO
Shanghai
Basel
WTF

These 11 tournaments should be enough for a 36-37 year old.

 

[True Fanerer]

Hopman Cup
AO
Dubai
IW
Madrid
FO
Halle
Wimbledon
Cincinnati
UO
Shanghai
Basel
WTF

 

[FrontHeadlock]

If you ask me, Roger should never again chase No.1; If it happens, it happens. But playing a schedule designed to garner more ranking points with No.1 as a goal is going to end in more disappointments than happy endings at tournaments he actually cares about.

I completely agree with this. I don't think additional weeks at No. 1 get Federer as much as additional titles at this point.

I feel the same way about Murray, but for different reasons.

Djoker, Nadal and Stan are different. Nadal I think pretty clearly needs to try to get his total weeks at No. 1 over 200, and Djoker is at least within possible striking distance of the all time record, so both would be looking to add to their totals. And Stan would really help his resume by getting to No. 1, even for a single week.

 

[NBP]

Unlike most, I believe next year he will be playing Roland Garros. Wilson is pushing the new RF97 to be released around that date and we will know Federer loves cash cow moments.

But he should be playing the following:

Hopman Cup
Australian Open
Dubai
Indian Wells
Rome
Roland Garros
Halle
Wimbledon
Cincinnati
USOpen
Shanghai
Paris
London

I have a feeling that you will never see him play Canada nor Indoor Paris ever again. Possibly even Miami.

You got a link for that bro?

 

[TheAverageFedererFan]

Hopman Cup
Australian Open
Dubai
Indian Wells
Madrid
French Open
Halle
Wimbledon
Cincinnati
US Open
Laver Cup
Shanghai
Basel
WTF

 

[abmk]

Have a feeling it'll be something like this:

Hopman
Australian Open
Dubai
Indian Wells
Stuttgart
Halle
Wimbledon
Cincinnati
US Open
Basel
World Tour Finals

Could also add in: Miami, maybe the French Open and Shanghai or something similar as he goes along.

Just add Shanghai to add to that and that'd be my preferred schedule.

 

[BeatlesFan]

Not sure why so many are including the Hopman cup and Laver cup--- both are exos and not sanctioned tournaments. I hope to God he skips LC next year since it will be in Chicago and just necessitates more useless travel (like the Bill Gates Seattle exo).

Here is what I think he will play:

AO
Dubai
IW
Miami
Stuttgart
Halle
Wimbledon
Cincinnatti
USO
Shanghai
Basel
WTF

He could throw in Rotterdam, but that is highly doubtful.

Anyone listing clay tournaments obviously do not bother to listen to Fed's pressers or read the Swiss press. He's not playing clay next year, or probably ever. He just told the Basler press on Thursday, "I love Paris as a city, but don't anticipate playing in tournaments there again." So anyone listing RG is clearly out of the loop.

 

[BlueClayGOAT]

Hopman Cup
AO
Dubai
IW
Stuttgart
Halle
Wimby
Cincy
USO
Shanghai
Basel
WTF(if he makes it)

 

[metsman]

Not sure why so many are including the Hopman cup and Laver cup--- both are exos and not sanctioned tournaments. I hope to God he skips LC next year since it will be in Chicago and just necessitates more useless travel (like the Bill Gates Seattle exo).

Here is what I think he will play:

AO
Dubai
IW
Miami
Stuttgart
Halle
Wimbledon
Cincinnatti
USO
Shanghai
Basel
WTF

He could throw in Rotterdam, but that is highly doubtful.

Anyone listing clay tournaments obviously do not bother to listen to Fed's pressers or read the Swiss press. He's not playing clay next year, or probably ever. He just told the Basler press on Thursday, "I love Paris as a city, but don't anticipate playing in tournaments there again." So anyone listing RG is clearly out of the loop.

he'll play RG one more time the year he retires but that will be it for clay probably.

 

[MasturB]

I think he will play Roland Garros if Ralph doesn’t win AO.

If Ralph wins AO he will skip RG again to make another run at Wimby.

 

[kishnabe]

Hopman Cup

AO

IW

Miami

Skips Clay Season (Plays it on his final year, let Nadal & Thiem vulcher the events)

Stuttgart

Halle

SW19

Cincinatti

USO

Shanghai

Basel

WTF (if he qualifies)

 

[nikdom]

Not sure why so many are including the Hopman cup and Laver cup--- both are exos and not sanctioned tournaments. I hope to God he skips LC next year since it will be in Chicago and just necessitates more useless travel (like the Bill Gates Seattle exo).

Here is what I think he will play:

AO
Dubai
IW
Miami
Stuttgart
Halle
Wimbledon
Cincinnatti
USO
Shanghai
Basel
WTF

He could throw in Rotterdam, but that is highly doubtful.

Anyone listing clay tournaments obviously do not bother to listen to Fed's pressers or read the Swiss press. He's not playing clay next year, or probably ever. He just told the Basler press on Thursday, "I love Paris as a city, but don't anticipate playing in tournaments there again." So anyone listing RG is clearly out of the loop.

That's interesting his statement about Paris. I couldn't find the news article you mention... can you provide a link?

 

[Goosehead]

hmm. he did say he found playing back to back 1 week masters difficult, so I ditched paris and put in shanghai.

then he does not end season playing 3weeks out of 4, old git gonna be 37 after all lol.

 

[hofshot]

Same schedule as 2017, only swap Canada for Cincy

 

[Deleted member 688153]

Lol at playing clay.

AO
IW
Halle
Wimbledon
Cincy
USO
Shanghai
Basel
WTF

That's it. Laver Cup too.

 

[Aussie Darcy]

Ditch Dubai and add the French. Sure skip most of clay but at least play the slam! Stuttgart could be ditched as well, I know he has a deal with them but he lost to bloody Haas this year so he clearly doesn't care all too much about it. Also, ditch the Rod Laver Cup.

Not sure why so many care about Dubai anyway, he lost to bloody Donskoy this year.

 

[papertank]

Hopman Cup
AO
Dubai
IW
Rome
RG
Halle
Wimbledon
Cincy
USO
Shanghai
Basel
WTF

 

[metsman]

Ditch Dubai and add the French. Sure skip most of clay but at least play the slam! Stuttgart could be ditched as well, I know he has a deal with them but he lost to bloody Haas this year so he clearly doesn't care all too much about it. Also, ditch the Rod Laver Cup.

Not sure why so many care about Dubai anyway, he lost to bloody Donskoy this year.

because we enjoy watching him play on a court that requires attacking tennis.

 

[Steve0904]

Pretty easy for me. Pretty much the bare minimum.

Hopman Cup
AO
Dubai
IW
Miami (because he's skipping clay)
Halle
Wimbledon
Cincy
USO
Laver Cup
Shanghai
Basel
WTF

 

[nikdom]

Pretty easy for me. Pretty much the bare minimum.

Hopman Cup
AO
Dubai
IW
Miami (because he's skipping clay)
Halle
Wimbledon
Cincy
USO
Laver Cup
Shanghai
Basel
WTF

The sunshine double is quite an ask physically. I know Roger did it in 2017 but if he does well in IW, no point in pushing it on the slower courts of Miami.

 

[Sudacafan]

If you ask me, Roger should never again chase No.1; If it happens, it happens. But playing a schedule designed to garner more ranking points with No.1 as a goal is going to end in more disappointments than happy endings at tournaments he actually cares about.

With this is mind, I think he should really cut out major parts of his 2018 schedule again.

Whether he plays Rome and RG is up to him and how badly he wants a go at them again, but if you ask me skip those as well.

That leaves his schedule like this -
Jan 2018
- Hopman cup
- Australian Open
(almost a month break here)

Feb-March 2018
- Dubai
- Indian Wells? (even this is optional for me)

*skip Miami for sure*

(3.5 months break if he skips clay; 2.5 months is he plays Rome)

May
- Rome?
- RG?

June 2018
- Stuttgart
- Halle

July 2018
- Wimbledon

August
- Cincinnati

Sep
- USO

Laver Cup

Oct -Nov
- Shanghai
- Basel/Paris
- WTF


What would your version look like?

Roger should more or or less manage 2018 as he did 2017.

 

[PMChambers]

AO
IW
MI
MC
FO
Queens
Wim
CIN
USO
Shag
WTF

11 Tourneys. Throw in few extra 500 if fail at Major and Master early. Like Rotterdam and Dubai for AO. No extra clay just FO and Monte.

 

[Dilexson]

It will all depend on how many titles he defends i think. And that is the best option imo.
He might add Miami if he bombs out in Dubai+IW.
Same goes for clay , he might have a go at RG if he doesn't defend the 3 big titles earlier that year.
He might skip the whole asian swing if he wins US open.. and so on.

 

[Steve0904]

The sunshine double is quite an ask physically. I know Roger did it in 2017 but if he does well in IW, no point in pushing it on the slower courts of Miami.

I don't think he'll win both again anyway, but even if he does he'll have more than enough time off in clay season. That's why he has to play both IMO. I don't see him skipping a HC event while knowing he's going on a mini vacation directly after.

 

[zagor]

Skip Miami and play Cinci instead of Canada.

The rest can be the same, especially in regards to skipping the CC season.

 

[Surion]

I think it'll be like this year, maybe replacing Cinci with Canada, skipping Miami and even skipping Basel
I hope it'll be:
Hopman Cup
AO
IW
ROME
RG
STUTTGART (only if he doesn't make the QF in Paris)
HALLE
WIMBLEDON
CINCI
USO
LAVER CUP
SHANGHAI
WTF

He'll never ever skip Basel.
Other than that, I agree, although I still think it's possible he won't play on clay.

 

[underground]

Hopman Cup
AO
Dubai
IW
Monte Carlo
Madrid
RG
Halle
Wimbledon
Cinci
USO
Laver Cup
Shanghai
Basel
WTF

 

[wangs78]

Unlike most, I believe next year he will be playing Roland Garros. Wilson is pushing the new RF97 to be released around that date and we will know Federer loves cash cow moments.

But he should be playing the following:

Hopman Cup
Australian Open
Dubai
Indian Wells
Rome
Roland Garros
Halle
Wimbledon
Cincinnati
USOpen
Shanghai
Paris
London

I have a feeling that you will never see him play Canada nor Indoor Paris ever again. Possibly even Miami.

I think he will play Basel and drop Paris. Also Rome and RG I think will be something he decides after IW. If he has the kind of run in Jan and Fed that he did this year (won AO, IW, MIA), then i think there is a great chance he skips clay and focuses on grass. If he has a lousy start to the year I can then see him playing 2-3 clay tourneys to get more match play under his belt (as well as ranking points). Bottom line is, the more success he has, the more he can afford to skip tournaments. The less success he has, the more he’ll want to add tournaments. Throw in how his body feels and that is what will determine his schedule next year.

 

[mike danny]

Ditch Dubai and add the French. Sure skip most of clay but at least play the slam! Stuttgart could be ditched as well, I know he has a deal with them but he lost to bloody Haas this year so he clearly doesn't care all too much about it. Also, ditch the Rod Laver Cup.

Not sure why so many care about Dubai anyway, he lost to bloody Donskoy this year.

He'll probably take Dubai more seriously next year, as he's not going to defend all his titles in the first part of the year.

 

[Backspin1183]

1. Hopman Cup
2. Australian Open

3. Dubai
4. Indian Wells

5. Rome
6. Roland Garros

7. Halle
8. Wimbledon

9. Cincy
10. US Open

11. Shanghai

12. Basel
13. Next Gen Finals Milan
14. World Tour Finals

 

[fedtennisphan]

No matter what Federer’s schedule is next year, he is not ditching the Laver Cup which he created with his partner Tony Godsick with the approval of Rod Laver himself. This year’s Laver Cup will be in Chicago and Federer will be there. So deal with it.