What sounds like a smarter choice, VCore 95 or VCore Pro 97 (HD/Standard)?

AdamKJor

New User
I've recently gotten back into the game, and have gotten into some racquetholism. After using the YouTek IG Radical MP, and then Graphene Prestige MP as a junior, I came back, and thought I'd look for something more powerful than the latter of these to get back into it. I demoed some racquets, and ended up with the Speed Pro and Prestige Pro auxetic. In the end, I found the Prestige Pro more fun to play with, so that's been my weapon of choice for the last 3 months.

However, I'm very curious to try one of the two racquets in the title, and possibly the Gravity Pro (which I haven't tried). My favourite thing about the Prestige is the flex, thin beam, and HL balance, which give it that surgical precision, maneuverability/aerodynamicness, and feel. Nevertheless, I would like to have the option of playing with a slightly more forgiving frame, maybe even a bit crisper, when I feel like it. I have tried the Pro Staff, and while it was a nice racquet, I found it too crisp, powerful, and erratic. It seems like the VCore 95 might be something between the Prestige Auxetic and the Pro Staff? But then there's the control-stick in the Yonex line-up, the VCore pro, which nevertheless seems to still be crisper and more forgiving than more old-school control-frames like the (modern) Prestige?

Edits: I have a two-handed BH, and don't have the opportunity to demo any of these 2 frames.
 
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MattHeup

Rookie
If you love how maneuverable the Prestige is, the VC95 has that in droves. But the VCPs might help your two-hander more.
 

AdamKJor

New User
I play a two hander with the 95, it is very doable, love the racket.
But honestly, the vcore pro 100 is severely underrated. Leather grip and it’s there
One of the reasons I'm not attracted by the 100 is that I found the Speed Pro to simply feel too clunky, which was probably a combo of the 100sq in head, but expecially the 23mm box beam.
 
How come the VCore 95 is implied to be a liability for my two-hander? Is it the lack of plow-through/stability?
It's not a liability per se, just that it is so beneficial to 1 handers. No demo, that's tough, maybe do try the 95 or buy one because it is unique, nothing quite like it so you get to at least spend on something unique.
 

AdamKJor

New User
It's not a liability per se, just that it is so beneficial to 1 handers. No demo, that's tough, maybe do try the 95 or buy one because it is unique, nothing quite like it so you get to at least spend on something unique.
That's what I'm currently leaning towards. The VCore 97 D, while it sounds like it might be my favourite, sounds like a Yonex variant of racquets I've already tried. The VCore 95 sounds entirely curious though, as I can't imagine what it's like. Never tried a 16x20 either.
 

bobeeto

Professional
That's what I'm currently leaning towards. The VCore 97 D, while it sounds like it might be my favourite, sounds like a Yonex variant of racquets I've already tried. The VCore 95 sounds entirely curious though, as I can't imagine what it's like. Never tried a 16x20 either.
Tread lightly with 16x20… you’ll never want a different string pattern again
 

ryushen21

Legend
I've recently gotten back into the game, and have gotten into some racquetholism. After using the YouTek IG Radical MP, and then Graphene Prestige MP as a junior, I came back, and thought I'd look for something more powerful than the latter of these to get back into it. I demoed some racquets, and ended up with the Speed Pro and Prestige Pro auxetic. In the end, I found the Prestige Pro more fun to play with, so that's been my weapon of choice for the last 3 months.

However, I'm very curious to try one of the two racquets in the title, and possibly the Gravity Pro (which I haven't tried). My favourite thing about the Prestige is the flex, thin beam, and HL balance, which give it that surgical precision, maneuverability/aerodynamicness, and feel. Nevertheless, I would like to have the option of playing with a slightly more forgiving frame, maybe even a bit crisper, when I feel like it. I have tried the Pro Staff, and while it was a nice racquet, I found it too crisp, powerful, and erratic. It seems like the VCore 95 might be something between the Prestige Auxetic and the Pro Staff? But then there's the control-stick in the Yonex line-up, the VCore pro, which nevertheless seems to still be crisper and more forgiving than more old-school control-frames like the (modern) Prestige?

Edits: I have a two-handed BH, and don't have the opportunity to demo any of these 2 frames.
Of the racquets you mentioned, I would probably go with the VCore 95. I like the VCore Pro line a lot but you pretty much have to give maximum effort to extract results from it and that can get tiring. However, I wouldn't describe the VCP line as crisp. Despite the 95 being smaller, it will actually feel a bit easier to use. The Gravity Pro is a brilliant racquet as well but also not one to offer much in the way of free or easy power.

Regardless of what some might say, you can definitely work the 2 hander with the VCore 95. Based on my hitting with the new VCore 100, I think the new VCore 95 will be even friendlier to players using a 2HBH.
 

AdamKJor

New User
Of the racquets you mentioned, I would probably go with the VCore 95. I like the VCore Pro line a lot but you pretty much have to give maximum effort to extract results from it and that can get tiring. However, I wouldn't describe the VCP line as crisp. Despite the 95 being smaller, it will actually feel a bit easier to use. The Gravity Pro is a brilliant racquet as well but also not one to offer much in the way of free or easy power.

Regardless of what some might say, you can definitely work the 2 hander with the VCore 95. Based on my hitting with the new VCore 100, I think the new VCore 95 will be even friendlier to players using a 2HBH.
As I try to suggest with the racquets I've historically gravitated towards, I prefer racquets which don't give much for free. I like playing an opportunistic baseline game, and so I like to know exactly how the ball will behave off the strings. I honestly don't find it too tiring, as I love the satisfaction of being responsible for good shots, and am in good enough shhape for it.

The VCore 95 sounds more like the slight deviation from my norm that I'm looking for though.
 

ryushen21

Legend
As I try to suggest with the racquets I've historically gravitated towards, I prefer racquets which don't give much for free. I like playing an opportunistic baseline game, and so I like to know exactly how the ball will behave off the strings. I honestly don't find it too tiring, as I love the satisfaction of being responsible for good shots, and am in good enough shhape for it.

The VCore 95 sounds more like the slight deviation from my norm that I'm looking for though.
I was just offering input based on my experience with all three of the frames you mentioned. It's ultimately your choice.
 

smalahove

Hall of Fame
The 2018 VCore 95 is my fav racket, with the DG97 (strung in a 16x19 setup) as a close second. That being said, the 2020 VCore 95 is a great racket, and ime, extremely solid around the net. I felt I couldn't miss a volley with it. And I don't know where this not-optimal-for-a-2hbh-talk comes from. Ime it's very even-handed from both wings. To me, the VCore 95 line has similarities with the (newer) 6.1 95's, and not so much with the Pro Staffs or Prestiges. If you're looking for that type of feel, the GPro could be the ticket as it feels very old school in a positive way, albeit the 100 sq in might throw you off.

The 2020 version of the VCore 95 is more solid, has more weight behind the ball, but lost a bit of the X factor in feel that the 2018 has. However, it's not clear cut which one is "better" as it depends on your preferences. I felt the changes made the racket more competitive. The big thing about this racket though, is that you need to be on, for every shot if you face a solid 4.0 and above. When playing 4.5s and the occasional 5.0s I would end up coughing up a shorter ball on the backhand wing, and lost the point. With the VCore 100, I gain the extra 10ft needed to stay in the rally, without sacrificing too much when it comes to control (ime the VCore 100 is an excellent racket at the net for its size, which I found out by accident trying out a friend's frame).

Btw I also played for a while with the new VCP 97 (310) and VCP 100, and really like the latter, but ended up with the VCore 100.
I also prefer the VCore 95 over the VCP97, as you can hit a bigger, more direct ball with the former.
 

bobeeto

Professional
The 2018 VCore 95 is my fav racket, with the DG97 (strung in a 16x19 setup) as a close second. That being said, the 2020 VCore 95 is a great racket, and ime, extremely solid around the net. I felt I couldn't miss a volley with it. And I don't know where this not-optimal-for-a-2hbh-talk comes from. Ime it's very even-handed from both wings. To me, the VCore 95 line has similarities with the (newer) 6.1 95's, and not so much with the Pro Staffs or Prestiges. If you're looking for that type of feel, the GPro could be the ticket as it feels very old school in a positive way, albeit the 100 sq in might throw you off.

The 2020 version of the VCore 95 is more solid, has more weight behind the ball, but lost a bit of the X factor in feel that the 2018 has. However, it's not clear cut which one is "better" as it depends on your preferences. I felt the changes made the racket more competitive. The big thing about this racket though, is that you need to be on, for every shot if you face a solid 4.0 and above. When playing 4.5s and the occasional 5.0s I would end up coughing up a shorter ball on the backhand wing, and lost the point. With the VCore 100, I gain the extra 10ft needed to stay in the rally, without sacrificing too much when it comes to control (ime the VCore 100 is an excellent racket at the net for its size, which I found out by accident trying out a friend's frame).

Btw I also played for a while with the new VCP 97 (310) and VCP 100, and really like the latter, but ended up with the VCore 100.
I also prefer the VCore 95 over the VCP97, as you can hit a bigger, more direct ball with the former.
We love a well versed yonex king
 
And I don't know where this not-optimal-for-a-2hbh-talk comes from. Ime it's very even-handed from both wings.
It's just not designed for a 2 hander, of all the rackets in the Yonex lineup. A 2 hander can use it, but I'd also no tell someone with a 1 handed backhand to try or use any 100 sized Yonex, in general.

My Yonex history with a 1 hander---- Ezone DR 98 +, HD, D, 330 duel G, Vcore Pro 97 330, H, Ezone 98 2020/2022, Ezone 98 Tour 2020/2022, Vcore 95 2018/2021, and Regna 98.

The strengths of the Vcore 95 are maximized with a 1 hander, doesn't mean it's a bad racket for a 2 hander, but if you wanted to recommend 1 or 2 Yonex for a 2 handed backhand player, I'd say you would definitely save one spot for one of the 100s and maybe a 97 or 98, I wouldn't throw the 95 in there as a top 2 recommendation.
 

ryushen21

Legend
It's just not designed for a 2 hander, of all the rackets in the Yonex lineup. A 2 hander can use it, but I'd also no tell someone with a 1 handed backhand to try or use any 100 sized Yonex, in general.

My Yonex history with a 1 hander---- Ezone DR 98 +, HD, D, 330 duel G, Vcore Pro 97 330, H, Ezone 98 2020/2022, Ezone 98 Tour 2020/2022, Vcore 95 2018/2021, and Regna 98.

The strengths of the Vcore 95 are maximized with a 1 hander, doesn't mean it's a bad racket for a 2 hander, but if you wanted to recommend 1 or 2 Yonex for a 2 handed backhand player, I'd say you would definitely save one spot for one of the 100s and maybe a 97 or 98, I wouldn't throw the 95 in there as a top 2 recommendation.
This is complete and utter nonsense.

The fact is the 2HBH dominates game at both the professional and recreational levels. You might not like it, but it's the truth.

Racquets on the market today can handle any shot you want to hit with them. I know people that use a Pure Drive and hit a 1HBH. Remember a guy named Safin? Pretty sure he used a mid-size racquet and hit a 2HBH.

Just because you have a preference for a racquet for 1HBH doesn't exclude other racquets from being able to do the job just as well or mean that a racquet isn't good for a 2HBH. Likewise, any modern racquet can handle a 2HBH.
 
This is complete and utter nonsense.

The fact is the 2HBH dominates game at both the professional and recreational levels. You might not like it, but it's the truth.

Racquets on the market today can handle any shot you want to hit with them. I know people that use a Pure Drive and hit a 1HBH. Remember a guy named Safin? Pretty sure he used a mid-size racquet and hit a 2HBH.

Just because you have a preference for a racquet for 1HBH doesn't exclude other racquets from being able to do the job just as well or mean that a racquet isn't good for a 2HBH. Likewise, any modern racquet can handle a 2HBH.
Oh Ryun Ryun Ryun, it's not really nonsense. First, let's not mix professional players and what they use and compare it to rec players.

I don't doubt that you know people who use a Pure Drive and have a 1 handed backhand, that doesn't have much to do with a discussion concerning the pros and cons of the Vcore 95.

There is nothing rising to the level of "utter nonsense" by acknowledging the Vcore 95 is a very special racket for people who have a 1 handed backhand, that's where it shines.

Sure, there is no law preventing someone with a full western forehand grip and a 2 hander from using a Vcore 95, but why would they really, if they are a rec player?

On the other hand, most people with 1 handed backhands do not get a huge benefit from a 100 square inch stick.
 

ryushen21

Legend
Oh Ryun Ryun Ryun, it's not really nonsense. First, let's not mix professional players and what they use and compare it to rec players.

I don't doubt that you know people who use a Pure Drive and have a 1 handed backhand, that doesn't have much to do with a discussion concerning the pros and cons of the Vcore 95.

There is nothing rising to the level of "utter nonsense" by acknowledging the Vcore 95 is a very special racket for people who have a 1 handed backhand, that's where it shines.

Sure, there is no law preventing someone with a full western forehand grip and a 2 hander from using a Vcore 95, but why would they really, if they are a rec player?

On the other hand, most people with 1 handed backhands do not get a huge benefit from a 100 square inch stick.
People who use a 1HBH may indeed have a preference for a racquet like the VC95. That does not preclude it from being a good frame for someone who hits a 2HBH.

Similarly, a racquet like a VC100 or Pure Drive can absolutely hit a 1HBH even though most people who use them hit a 2HBH.

Whether it's better or not comes down to how well the player can use the racquet.

It is nonsense to say BS like "that racquet isn't good for a 2HBH."
 

AdamKJor

New User
Oh Ryun Ryun Ryun, it's not really nonsense. First, let's not mix professional players and what they use and compare it to rec players.

I don't doubt that you know people who use a Pure Drive and have a 1 handed backhand, that doesn't have much to do with a discussion concerning the pros and cons of the Vcore 95.

There is nothing rising to the level of "utter nonsense" by acknowledging the Vcore 95 is a very special racket for people who have a 1 handed backhand, that's where it shines.

Sure, there is no law preventing someone with a full western forehand grip and a 2 hander from using a Vcore 95, but why would they really, if they are a rec player?

On the other hand, most people with 1 handed backhands do not get a huge benefit from a 100 square inch stick.
These claims make me interested. What makes a «OHBH racquet», and could I get some examples beyond the VCore 95?

Secondly, what on the other hand makes a DHBH racquet, ans examples?
 

gold325

Hall of Fame
These claims make me interested. What makes a «OHBH racquet», and could I get some examples beyond the VCore 95?

Secondly, what on the other hand makes a DHBH racquet, ans examples?

I was one of those people who used to think

OHBH - typically - more HL, more total weight, medium SW, smaller head? atleast no OSes, generally more flexy - say like a Prestige or a Prostaff
2HBH - typically - less HL, less total weight, high SW, bigger head maybe even OS, generally less flexy - say like a Blade or Pure Drive or Aero

Now I believe that is a completely negotiable item and upto the individual player.
 
These claims make me interested. What makes a «OHBH racquet», and could I get some examples beyond the VCore 95?

Secondly, what on the other hand makes a DHBH racquet, ans examples?
OHBH: head light, not more than 4 points HL. 98 inch or less for most rackets, although the Head Speed Pro 360 is a 100 and a favorite of OHBH players. One special tool of a OHBH player is the slice and a 100 doesn't extract the best potential for slices, a 98 or smaller head size does, a 95 definitely does.
Some old schoolers like the Prince 93 Phantom I think it is called, too old school for me, but that's a popular one.
There's not anything I know of right off the bat that is like the Vcore 95 for a 1HBH.

DHBH: For a modern player with an extreme brush up 2 hander the slightly larger surface area of the 100s offer some power potential and forgiveness. over a 95. 100s are gaining popularity amongst the youths and college kids. They are mostly semi-western FH with BH 2 handers.

Those are the two extremes, 95 and 100 inch rackets. In the middle I'd say 1 handers and 2 handers can both use sticks such as the Ezone 98, Vcore 98, Vcore Pro 97, etc. for Yonex ideas, they are equally suited for either. The extremes are 95s and 100s and the 100 offers a good amount of power and brush up for western forehands as well as 2 handed backhands. A 100 in general can be used by a 1 hander, but it isn't "helping" the 1 hander in any way.
Now I believe that is a completely negotiable item and upto the individual player.
It is always up to the individual, to each their own, but if people want knowledge, you'd be surprised how many racket experts on the forums are 3.5 rated players and have no idea what might be best for their game.
 
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Deleted member 746200

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I am testing both Vcore 95 and 98. Needed lead tape on both frames anyways since I prefer a strung ~330SW. 95 definitely feels more connect to the ball especialy if you hit flat. Lacks a little spin potential but no surprise for a 95 16X20. VP 97 D based on my memory was not great...VDM muted too much feel on VP 97. I think VDM should not be used on thin beam rackets at all...
 

mhkeuns

Hall of Fame
I’d go with the Vcore 95 just because I think the Auxetic Prestige Pro is a better all-around racket than the VCP 97D, which was a solid frame but a little clunky. I‘d also throw in the 93P if you want a solid midsize performer. I like the Prince 93P over the VC95.

As far as OHBH goes, I used to think the heavier & small midsize frames (*like the Pro Staff 90) with HL balance was the best. That said, I preferred midsize frames at the time. Now that I prefer my frames in 97 to 98”, I’ve been hitting really well with the Radical Pro. I find the Radical Pro to be a lot easier to use than the Prestige Pro and still offers me just as great control.
 

Trip

Hall of Fame
My favourite thing about the Prestige is the flex, thin beam, and HL balance, which give it that surgical precision, maneuverability/aerodynamicness, and feel. Nevertheless, I would like to have the option of playing with a slightly more forgiving frame, maybe even a bit crisper, when I feel like it.
@AdamKJor - Hi Adam, welcome. Honestly, since you're so used to the Prestige, why not pickup an Auxetic Prestige MP -- 99", 18x19, 310g, 21.5mm, 65RA -- pretty much everything you want in one go, from the same model silo no less! You'll get similar feel, slightly more power and spin, almost the same control and hit even bigger serves. I played for a while with the all-red G360+ Tour, and it was an absolutely solid frame, especially for a 2HBH. The Auxetic MP should be even better, with the Auxetic mesh making impact feel even more solid. Provided you can handle the higher stock swing weight, that Aux MP should be a no-brainer.

As for the VC 95 and VCP 97D, be prepared for a fairly different playing experience, from a combo of the isometric head, differently-shaped sweet spot and more muted feel. Re- the 95, if you're primarily an attacking player who can hit the sweet spot 99+% of the time, it might be a blast. If you're much less than that, though, IMHO it will simply make tennis harder than it needs to be, as the string bed has a significant power and consistency drop-off outside the sweet spot (hopefully that improves with the forthcoming 2023 VC 95, to be released in January). The 97D is, IMHO, a much more complete stick, with a way more consistently-behaving string bed across more percentage surface area, and would probably be a better fit for you. That said, neither are really that easy to play with, and both require full commitment from the user at all times. If you did want something with easier power but still well-controlled from Yonex, I would look at the EZone 98 or VCore Pro 100.

As long as you're looking beyond Head, though, why stop at Yonex? Here are more 97/98" soft-flexing, control-with-a-bit-of-power frames to check out:
- Babolat Pure Strike VS (platform racquet, plays awesome with 4-5g lead @ 12)
- Head Gravity Tour, or under-spec Pro
- ProKennex Ki Q+ Tour
- Tecnifibre TF40 305, either pattern, or 315
- Wilson Blade, either pattern -- v7 softer, v8 bit more crisp, both good
 

AdamKJor

New User
@AdamKJor - Hi Adam, welcome. Honestly, since you're so used to the Prestige, why not pickup an Auxetic Prestige MP -- 99", 18x19, 310g, 21.5mm, 65RA -- pretty much everything you want in one go, from the same model silo no less! You'll get similar feel, slightly more power and spin, almost the same control and hit even bigger serves. I played for a while with the all-red G360+ Tour, and it was an absolutely solid frame, especially for a 2HBH. The Auxetic MP should be even better, with the Auxetic mesh making impact feel even more solid. Provided you can handle the higher stock swing weight, that Aux MP should be a no-brainer.

As for the VC 95 and VCP 97D, be prepared for a fairly different playing experience, from a combo of the isometric head, differently-shaped sweet spot and more muted feel. Re- the 95, if you're primarily an attacking player who can hit the sweet spot 99+% of the time, it might be a blast. If you're much less than that, though, IMHO it will simply make tennis harder than it needs to be, as the string bed has a significant power and consistency drop-off outside the sweet spot (hopefully that improves with the forthcoming 2023 VC 95, to be released in January). The 97D is, IMHO, a much more complete stick, with a way more consistently-behaving string bed across more percentage surface area, and would probably be a better fit for you. That said, neither are really that easy to play with, and both require full commitment from the user at all times. If you did want something with easier power but still well-controlled from Yonex, I would look at the EZone 98 or VCore Pro 100.

As long as you're looking beyond Head, though, why stop at Yonex? Here are more 97/98" soft-flexing, control-with-a-bit-of-power frames to check out:
- Babolat Pure Strike VS (platform racquet, plays awesome with 4-5g lead @ 12)
- Head Gravity Tour, or under-spec Pro
- ProKennex Ki Q+ Tour
- Tecnifibre TF40 305, either pattern, or 315
- Wilson Blade, either pattern -- v7 softer, v8 bit more crisp, both good
I was honestly wanting to try Yonex again. Had an EZone Tour for a while, and while it was absolutely not a racquet for me, the craftsmanship was awesome.

Somehow the Prestige MP slipped my mind… Great suggestion though! Might have to give it a shot.
 

Chairman3

Hall of Fame
Vcore 95 won't be more powerful or more forgiving than any of the frames you mentioned.
Don't let the name and Isometric head fool you, it's still basically a proper 95 low power frame.
I actually held it up to my Pro Staff 95 snd the head did not seem bigger at all.
I'd say try the Vcore Pro 100 or Vcore 98 if you truly want an easier experience.
Vcore Pro 97 is great, but a little underpowered due to the low swingweight, if you're good to customize, I'd go for it.
 

ChrisJR3264

Hall of Fame
Vcore 95 won't be more powerful or more forgiving than any of the frames you mentioned.
Don't let the name and Isometric head fool you, it's still basically a proper 95 low power frame.
I actually held it up to my Pro Staff 95 snd the head did not seem bigger at all.
I'd say try the Vcore Pro 100 or Vcore 98 if you truly want an easier experience.
Vcore Pro 97 is great, but a little underpowered due to the low swingweight, if you're good to customize, I'd go for it.

I demoed the vcore 95 twice and sadly I got two multi’s so the power was pretty decent for what’s supposed to be a control frame.

However I do need to hit this stick with a decent poly.
 

naturalexponent

Hall of Fame
I demoed the vcore 95 twice and sadly I got two multi’s so the power was pretty decent for what’s supposed to be a control frame.

However I do need to hit this stick with a decent poly.
Interestingly enough I preferred its performance with multi (but it was pretty much devoid of feel). The feel was much better with a stiff poly but I struggled a bit with consistency of depth.
 
@AdamKJor -

As for the VC 95 and VCP 97D, be prepared for a fairly different playing experience, from a combo of the isometric head, differently-shaped sweet spot and more muted feel. Re- the 95, if you're primarily an attacking player who can hit the sweet spot 99+% of the time, it might be a blast.
This is a really great point and one where I get confused discussing the 95 sometimes online, especially when people are adding weight to it for the sole purpose of making it more stable. Yes, semi-pros like Karue added weight for other reasons as he is hitting against semi-pro competition, but there is another camp that has added weight to the VC95 to help with off center hits. One should probably not chase stability for off center hits with the 95 and just use something else. I never miss the sweet spot when hitting except for shanking overheads now and then and it's very stable and magical if that is how you hit the ball with the 95, magically stable in a maneuverable package. Maybe the most stability for it's sw of anything I've used.
 

flanker2000fr

Hall of Fame
If you're looking for a bit more juice than the Prestige, I don't think the Vcore Pro is the way to go.

The Vcore 95 has a good reputation for being a mix of a player's control racquet while conserving decent power and spin. It might require a few grams of lead, though, as the SW is fairly low in stock form.

As for 2 handers vs. one hander with the Vcore 95: yes, there's an obvious gain in manoeuvrability with a 95 sq.in. for the one hander, but it doesn't mean than a 2HBH player can't use it. Just go and see Karue hit with this frame on My Tennis HQ on YT, and see how he hits his BH.

Lastly, the new Vcore line is about to be released in January 2023. If I were you, I'd wait to see reviews coming out before making a choice.
 

Roquestil

Semi-Pro
Vcore 95 won't be more powerful or more forgiving than any of the frames you mentioned.
Don't let the name and Isometric head fool you, it's still basically a proper 95 low power frame.
I actually held it up to my Pro Staff 95 snd the head did not seem bigger at all.
I'd say try the Vcore Pro 100 or Vcore 98 if you truly want an easier experience.
Vcore Pro 97 is great, but a little underpowered due to the low swingweight, if you're good to customize, I'd go for it.
My experience as well. VC95 doesn´t feel bigger than it is, maybe a TAD bit bigger (like a 96 maybe if that existed) but not even close to a 98. It does feel more modern, yes than the traditional 95. It´s a great racquet but it´s not replacing any 98 anytime soon in terms of sweetspot.
 

smalahove

Hall of Fame
As for 2 handers vs. one hander with the Vcore 95: yes, there's an obvious gain in manoeuvrability with a 95 sq.in. for the one hander, but it doesn't mean than a 2HBH player can't use it. Just go and see Karue hit with this frame on My Tennis HQ on YT, and see how he hits his BH.

And ofc his training partner, #61 Marcos Giron, as well, who afaik is the only ATP pro in the top 100 (or top 2-300?) that actually uses a VCore 95 2018/2020/2023(?) and not the 2016 SV version ...
 

Roquestil

Semi-Pro
I've recently gotten back into the game, and have gotten into some racquetholism. After using the YouTek IG Radical MP, and then Graphene Prestige MP as a junior, I came back, and thought I'd look for something more powerful than the latter of these to get back into it. I demoed some racquets, and ended up with the Speed Pro and Prestige Pro auxetic. In the end, I found the Prestige Pro more fun to play with, so that's been my weapon of choice for the last 3 months.

However, I'm very curious to try one of the two racquets in the title, and possibly the Gravity Pro (which I haven't tried). My favourite thing about the Prestige is the flex, thin beam, and HL balance, which give it that surgical precision, maneuverability/aerodynamicness, and feel. Nevertheless, I would like to have the option of playing with a slightly more forgiving frame, maybe even a bit crisper, when I feel like it. I have tried the Pro Staff, and while it was a nice racquet, I found it too crisp, powerful, and erratic. It seems like the VCore 95 might be something between the Prestige Auxetic and the Pro Staff? But then there's the control-stick in the Yonex line-up, the VCore pro, which nevertheless seems to still be crisper and more forgiving than more old-school control-frames like the (modern) Prestige?

Edits: I have a two-handed BH, and don't have the opportunity to demo any of these 2 frames.
Just from your expectations of foregiveness the HD is actually very forgiving, unlike the 95. On the other hand the VC95 feels crisper while the HD flex´s a lot. I think you won´t go wrong with either it´s not a night and day difference in the end. Generally If you like the VC95 you will like the HD/D, control and feel racquets. I would personally recommend the VC95 because it feels different than what you have tried, the HD is very similar to the Prestige pro, just a bit flexier and a bit more foregiving (the HD in my experience did feel like a MASSIVE sweetspot). I just keep coming back the the VC95 everytime despite whatever I try. I know it´s demanding but it´s just so much fun :)
 
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GummiiBear

Semi-Pro
People who use a 1HBH may indeed have a preference for a racquet like the VC95. That does not preclude it from being a good frame for someone who hits a 2HBH.

Similarly, a racquet like a VC100 or Pure Drive can absolutely hit a 1HBH even though most people who use them hit a 2HBH.

Whether it's better or not comes down to how well the player can use the racquet.

It is nonsense to say BS like "that racquet isn't good for a 2HBH."

My coach uses a Pure Drive Roddick and a PDT ‘15 (I think…?) and he’s got a one hander.

Did mention a transition from the Pure Control (and other names the line has gone through) but switched after recognizing he provides plenty of the control himself so went with something with a little more oomph. Something along those lines.
 

aus89

Hall of Fame
My coach uses a Pure Drive Roddick and a PDT ‘15 (I think…?) and he’s got a one hander.

Did mention a transition from the Pure Control (and other names the line has gone through) but switched after recognizing he provides plenty of the control himself so went with something with a little more oomph. Something along those lines.
yeah i used a PDR+ with a one hander and it was great
 

puppybutts

Hall of Fame
can't comment on the prestiges you tried. but the vcp HD is not crispy, it is buttery plush in the center and low powered.

i would lean towards vcore 95, esp. since you are looking for more power
 

AdamKJor

New User
Since no-one asked, update! The VCore 95 was exactly the sort of thing I was looking for. I got it strung at 47 lbs by the seller, which I’d personally up to maybe 51, but otherwise it was an awesome experience. I find 16x19 has a bit much of a launch angle for me generally speaking, but this 16x20 was awesome, even if I’m used to an 18x20.

It was still on the plush side, while not being buttery (like the Prestige), and had power, but no rocket-launcher stuff (I like taking huge cuts).

Honestly, I didn’t even feel it was unstable as the usual complaint goes, which was certainly helped by the fact that I was unable to miss the sweetsport (isometric magic)!

I have no complaints for the racquet. Only thing I would want in an ideal world would be some more plow-through on the BH, which is probably (other than my serves) my most important shot.

Edit: Used it for ~30 mins today, and 1.5hrs with my Prestige which I have newly strung. Didn’r get to serve with it, and obviously it’s a very small sample. Will update upon more time with it if anything changes.
 

ChrisJR3264

Hall of Fame
My experience as well. VC95 doesn´t feel bigger than it is, maybe a TAD bit bigger (like a 96 maybe if that existed) but not even close to a 98. It does feel more modern, yes than the traditional 95. It´s a great racquet but it´s not replacing any 98 anytime soon in terms of sweetspot.

yeah I use a 18X19 Tfight 305 and when i demo'd the Vcore - it doesn't play like a 97/98 like people say (due to the isometric shape).
Definitely less forgiving than my frame. While I did enjoy hitting with it and played a set with it - I didn't particular love it on serves lol. I surprisingly didn't miss hit many balls with it - but I didn't like the Multi set up on the demo.

Darn it - now that I am typing this out - I'm somewhat thinking of buying one to put some Revolutions in there lol
 
Since no-one asked, update! The VCore 95 was exactly the sort of thing I was looking for. I got it strung at 47 lbs by the seller, which I’d personally up to maybe 51, but otherwise it was an awesome experience. I find 16x19 has a bit much of a launch angle for me generally speaking, but this 16x20 was awesome, even if I’m used to an 18x20.

It was still on the plush side, while not being buttery (like the Prestige), and had power, but no rocket-launcher stuff (I like taking huge cuts).

Honestly, I didn’t even feel it was unstable as the usual complaint goes, which was certainly helped by the fact that I was unable to miss the sweetsport (isometric magic)!

I have no complaints for the racquet. Only thing I would want in an ideal world would be some more plow-through on the BH, which is probably (other than my serves) my most important shot.

Edit: Used it for ~30 mins today, and 1.5hrs with my Prestige which I have newly strung. Didn’r get to serve with it, and obviously it’s a very small sample. Will update upon more time with it if anything changes.
The new Vcore is supposed to play a lot of softer then out going model; if the flex is 61 like they say as opposed to the outgoing flex of 64-65 that will make for a buttery response with more feel and control I would suspect. I have the Vcore 95 and old HD, i want a hybrid of the two; the flex of the HD but in a slightly smaller package. I love the feel of the HD (one of the best feeling rackets ever in my opinion; very unique) you need to be a serious player to play with that along with the Phantom 93p; talk about a players stick with buttery response and feel. But love the versatility of the Vcore 95 just not crazy about the feel (or lack there of); but you can hit every shot with this racket. I wouldn't say it does anything great but does everything well. This is a classic example where you wouldn't think 2 sq in would make a big difference; but it sure does in terms of mass, swing weight, feel and ease of use. Might have a winner with the new Vcore 95. will give you the best of both worlds; one could say the Vcore 95 is kind of a fish out of water in the Yonex lineup. Cant wait to try it; maybe you should too.
 
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