What strategy should Sinner adopt on Sunday?

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kangaroo1973

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Okay. Just for fun s sake, what should, in your opinion, be Sinner s gameplan to beat Carlos on sunday.
In Rome he played horrible in the second set which kinda was understandable.
In France he came really close and almost overpowered Carlos on clay. 3 match points on Carlos s serve speak volumes.
On paper, Sinner should have a slight advantage on grass, due to having great serve and arguably the best ROS on the tour.
Alcaraz however to date won wimby 2 times, Queens 2 times . Buut their only grass match was 3 years ago when way inferiour Sinner beat Carlos in 4 sets.
Tbh, I really do not know what Sinner should play to beat Alcaraz. Cant wait to hear your takes )
 
KennyoFatoBoiyo said:
Problem is Alcaraz can do the same thing to Sinner. Alcaraz actually has a better forehand than Sinner, but Sinners backhand is slightly better then Alcaraz.

And now Alcaraz has a good serve.

Should be an interesting final.
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Carlos has a great serve. Today he served many times over 215 km per hour= 134 miles. Which is pretty darn dast
 
KennyoFatoBoiyo said:
Really dude?? Have you not watched the guy play on grass the past couple of years?

His groundstrokes on grass are the best in the business.
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He hasn't played Sinner the last couple of years at Wimbledon. they aren't better than Sinner's on grass this year. Sinner's power will be way too much for Carlos in the finals
 
Sinner can actually have the upper in the serve - return dynamics, which wasn't the case with any of Alcaraz's previous opponents. His serve was fantastic vs Djokovic (74% 1st serve in, 81% points won), so if he repeats today's serving performance, he'll have a good chance.
Also, I don't think that Carlos has faced an elite and aggressive returner during his run (Fognini perhaps? lol), so there is Jannik's chance to put a pressure on his service games and make the things more complicated.

Hard to go against Carlos, though. He's been in a great form and is the two-time defending champion here (and his overall pedigree on grass - winning twice at Queen's under different conditions), has been pretty successful against Sinner in the last few matches so I think he'll prevail in 5. But if there is a department in which he can outperform Alcaraz, and is important/crucial for matches on grass, it's the serve/return.
 
Charlie has the advantage that he got the drop shot, which is the difference between the two! I predict he'll win about two-thirds of DS that he plays!
 
Both guys will trade blows in rallies. I think it comes down to who has a good serving day. Alcaraz's serve has been impressive this tournament. He's serving more accurately and intelligently. He's mixing up serves and using the body serve effectively. If he keeps that up, he wins. But if Alcaraz has an off day on serve, Sinner is the favorite.
 
Sudacafan said:
Plan A.
If plan A doesn’t work, Plan A+
If plan A+ doesn’t work, Plan A++

(No other Plan in the library)
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This is likely going to be a 4, if not 5 set match with hundreds of points. I don't think there's a clear strategy to follow, he's going to have to do everything to stay with Carlos on this surface, just like their RG final.

I'd love to say he needs to go hard and heavy into Alcaraz's forehand because that's been such an unreliable wing for Carlos during a lot of stretches this tournament, but what's that even matter? He's going to want to use his superior backhand against Alcaraz's just as often. The match-up really isn't that complicated. Neither are huge servers, both are great returners and both have the best groundstrokes and defense in the game. It's like a Nadal/Djokovic match, it'll just come down to who misses less in the end.

Carlos is comfortable moving forward so you can't plan to draw him in and pass him. He's way too fast for drop shots to work anyway. You can't take away pace because Alcaraz can inject his own whenever he wants. Sinner doesn't have an effective slice to use even if he wanted to. What can you do? This is just going to be a lot of haymakers being thrown. Let's see who blinks first.
 
MeatTornado said:
This is likely going to be a 4, if not 5 set match with hundreds of points. I don't think there's a clear strategy to follow, he's going to have to do everything to stay with Carlos on this surface, just like their RG final.

I'd love to say he needs to go hard and heavy into Alcaraz's forehand because that's been such an unreliable wing for Carlos during a lot of stretches this tournament, but what's that even matter? He's going to want to use his superior backhand against Alcaraz's just as often. The match-up really isn't that complicated. Neither are huge servers, both are great returners and both have the best groundstrokes and defense in the game. It's like a Nadal/Djokovic match, it'll just come down to who misses less in the end.

Carlos is comfortable moving forward so you can't plan to draw him in and pass him. He's way too fast for drop shots to work anyway. You can't take away pace because Alcaraz can inject his own whenever he wants. Sinner doesn't have an effective slice to use even if he wanted to. What can you do? This is just going to be a lot of haymakers being thrown. Let's see who blinks first.
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It will boil up to who wants that trophy.
Sinner can be like machine and take it in 3 set if alcaraz level slightly goes down
On the other hand Alcaraz will have to be laser focused from the word go.
Sinner has one Dimi match where he was on the rope. If Dimi can do that than alcaraz can try that formula.
And plus Alcaraz drop shots are best in the business maybe best ever. Alcaraz has to mix things .
 
Like he did against Djokovic, be relentless with strong, deep groundstrokes to put pressure on Alcaraz, forcing him to take more risks and make errors.
 
If Sinner's Plan A works well on the day, that will be enough. But if he's forced to do Plan B or Plan C, then he's in trouble. Alcaraz has a lot of variety, a lot of ups and downs, a lot of fire, which Sinner clearly doesn't like.
 
SonnyT said:
The one denied time will be Sinner, since Alcaraz is the quicker of them!
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They are quick in different ways. Sinner is fast with the timing of the ball. This will be a good match. I expect Sinner to pull it off, but if not, that would mean Sinner will have to accept the status as the 2nd best player behind Carlitos. I tend to think it's advantage Sinner at AO and WImby, while advantage Alcaraz at FO and USO.
 
serengetisunset said:
Like he did against Djokovic, be relentless with strong, deep groundstrokes to put pressure on Alcaraz, forcing him to take more risks and make errors.
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Djokovic couldn't move well, let's be honest, and yet he still seemed to have a strategy of trying to outlast Sinner, which won't work at this stage of Djokovic's career.
 
Hit a lot of deep middle. Keep Alcaraz suppressed by not giving him any angles or anything he can start using his variety and offensive tennis. A lot of backhand cross court as well. Djokovic used both of these strategies flawlessly in his match against raz at AO this year
 
platypus50 said:
Sinner definitely needs a high percentage of 1st serves in and he can't be missing 1st serves on big points

Agree with @MasterSlice74 about hitting shots deep and in the middle of the court, giving Alcaraz angles to work with is not a good idea
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Lendl hit a lot of balls deep into the middle of the court against Mečíř, that way Mečíř was unable to generate angles
 
play first strike tennis, make it swift, holding the exchanges and the match short, serve consistently, hit deep and hard. that sinner has no variety, is a myth. against djoker, he used the lob very diligently, also had good points at the net. he is moving better now on grass, than two years ago, when he had many slips.
 
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He must be super aggressive. On serve and aggressive returns on 2nd serves he is better than Carlos. Carlos will win most of the longer rallies.

Key for Alcaraz will be to which extent he can neutralize Sinners serve.
 
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kangaroo1973 said:
Okay. Just for fun s sake, what should, in your opinion, be Sinner s gameplan to beat Carlos on sunday.
In Rome he played horrible in the second set which kinda was understandable.
In France he came really close and almost overpowered Carlos on clay. 3 match points on Carlos s serve speak volumes.
On paper, Sinner should have a slight advantage on grass, due to having great serve and arguably the best ROS on the tour.
Alcaraz however to date won wimby 2 times, Queens 2 times . Buut their only grass match was 3 years ago when way inferiour Sinner beat Carlos in 4 sets.
Tbh, I really do not know what Sinner should play to beat Alcaraz. Cant wait to hear your takes )
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Id say Alcaraz has the best ROS on 1st serves, Sinner on 2nd serve.

On grass, Sinner actually has problems vs big 1st serves (Dimitrov/Shelton). Alcaraz serve is relatively weak, so it will be interesting to see how Sinner can attack it.
 
KennyoFatoBoiyo said:
Problem is Alcaraz can do the same thing to Sinner. Alcaraz actually has a better forehand than Sinner, but Sinners backhand is slightly better then Alcaraz.

And now Alcaraz has a good serve.

Should be an interesting final.
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Depends on who you compare with. He is far from the best players on tour on 1st serve win%, especially on faster surface.
 
irishnadalfan1983 said:
Anyone know if men’s final is still on at usual time of 2:00? Or have they switched it up like the ladies?
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2025 Wimbledon - Championships Schedule

At the very bottom for Sunday 13 July - it has listed:
Gentlemen’s Singles Final (Not before 4:00pm)

Very inconvenient timing for an Aussie as that's 1am, guess I'll just watch YouTube highlights on Monday as I won't be staying up until then.

At least if it was 2pm local time (as it usually has been), it would be 11pm here and I could at least watch the first set or so. Wonder why they changed it to a 4pm start this year
 
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