What Sunscreen Do You Recommend?

I just played this weekend with a friend of mine and noticed that by the end of the weekend, he had turned beet red. His face and arms were literally red from sunburn. As were his legs and neck.

I inquired about whether he used sunscreen and he said he did not.

I'm thinking about using sunscreen regularly myself.

What's effective and a good value, dollar wise?

Any other measures to protect yourself from sun exposure?
 

njsigman

Rookie
I really like the Neutrogena with SPF 70. It aint cheap, but heck, we spend Hundreds of dollars on the tennis stuff. May as well be good to your skin and prevent sun damage... :)
 

Fee

Legend
It's probably not a good idea to use any SPF over 50/55 ish. The added potency of the sunscreen ingredients to get that rating could lead to skin irritation. Also, SPF is a rating of time, ie if you can be in the sun unprotected for 15 minutes before you start to turn pink, then with an SPF 55 you can be in the sun for 55 times that (55 x 15 = 825 minutes). Who needs more than 13 hours of sun protection?

Anyway, Aveeno, Neutrogena, No-Ad and Banana Boat all make pretty decent sunscreens in the 15 - 55 SPF range. The most important thing about a sunscreen is that is contains either Avobenzone, Titanium Dioxide or Zinc Oxide in the ACTIVE ingredients so that you get full protection from both UVA and UVB rays. The second most important thing is that you put sunscreen on BEFORE you get dressed so that it has time to form a protective barrier and be a little bit more sweat resistant. Spray sunscreens should only be used as a secondary sunscreen, make sure you get one without alcohol.

If you sweat a lot, try a stick sunscreen around your eyes. Again check Banana Boat, I think they make one.

Also, use the search tool. There are a few sunscreen threads in this section of the forum. :)
 

couch

Hall of Fame
Blue Lizard is awesome. It's by far the best sunscreen I have ever used. A lot of people (tennis people) swear by it. Do a search and you can get some great info on it.
 

BobFL

Hall of Fame
My skin is ultra-sensitive and I highly recommend Neutrogena with Helioplex SPF 50. I have tried them all and this is by far the best...
 

1stVolley

Rookie
Stay away from any sunscreen with retinyl palmitate. Tests on lab animals indicate that it accelerates skin cancer (you can get more info on the web). Unfortunately, this is a common ingredient of sunscreens, so you'll have to search around to find one without it. Alba Botanica's sunscreen is palmitate-free.
 

Fee

Legend
Sunscreens that are above SPF 70 should be avoided (well, maybe even above 50 since that's what the new guidelines stop at). No one really needs to be in the sun for 50 times the normal time, there isn't even that much sunlight in a day. The ingredients in such strong formulas could lead to skin irritation. SPF 50 is about all you need. Most people don't understand that SPF is a measurement of time not strength.
 

ChipNCharge

Professional
Most people don't understand that SPF is a measurement of time not strength.
FWIW, the SPF section of this "Sunscreen" wiki entry seems to indicate that SPF isn't related to time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunscreen

"The SPF is the amount of UV radiation required to cause sunburn on skin with the sunscreen on, relative to the amount required without the sunscreen. There is a popular misconception that SPF relates to time of solar exposure."
 

limitup

Professional
Blue lizard is really great, that's all I use now. It's especially good if you have sensitive skin because it doesn't have all the other crap chemicals in it.

As far as SPF goes, I think the confusion is that they sort of go hand in hand. Generally speaking if you are in the sun for 60 minutes you're going to get 2X the exposure as you would in 30 minutes. So many people do look at it in term of time. I swear that many sunscreen manufacturers websites even talk about in terms of time. At least that's what I remember the last time I was looking in to it and found Blue Lizard...
 

Fee

Legend
FWIW, the SPF section of this "Sunscreen" wiki entry seems to indicate that SPF isn't related to time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunscreen

"The SPF is the amount of UV radiation required to cause sunburn on skin with the sunscreen on, relative to the amount required without the sunscreen. There is a popular misconception that SPF relates to time of solar exposure."
My go to sunscreen article has been moved because the website that hosted it was re-designed, crud. It explained it much better than I do. Let me see if I can find a printed copy somewhere. The FDA article you link (http://www.fda.gov/AboutFDA/CentersOffices/CDER/ucm106351.htm) to is correct, its about overall exposure but how can you sum that up so easily to people? I think the 'time' equation was an easier way to help people understand that SPF was a rating, not an ingredient.
 

LuckyR

Legend
for guidelines
at least spf 30
broad spectrum
zinc oxide among the ingredients

In addition I would buy the cheapest since the ingredients are inexpensive and the price differential is all marketing. Don't use on your face for tennis, wear a cap.
 

dbusiness

Rookie
You don't want to put it on your forehead as it will run into your eyes but there is no safety risk putting sunscreen on your face.

I use the Target Up and UP 50 and No Ad 45. Consumer Reports did some testing of sunscreens and these top came back near the top.
 

sixftlion

Rookie
I just played this weekend with a friend of mine and noticed that by the end of the weekend, he had turned beet red. His face and arms were literally red from sunburn. As were his legs and neck.

I inquired about whether he used sunscreen and he said he did not.

I'm thinking about using sunscreen regularly myself.

What's effective and a good value, dollar wise?

Any other measures to protect yourself from sun exposure?
I've been always split whether to use or not to use sunscreen. I really really don't like the idea of putting all the toxic chemicals on my skin, but then, I play tennis in California in the middle of day and I do not want to get burned. So I've been trying figuring out what I want to do, and just very recently found a great site that tests different sunscreens... and I found a few that I will use... here is the summary, the links to the testing website, and the links to those sunscreen that I have chosen for myself.http://www.tennisfitnesslove.com/2011/06/skin-protection-and-best-sunscreens-for-your-skin/
 
Some pretty creepy (hazardous) sunscreen... I've trashed mine (actually all 6 different brands that I had home) after I saw these tests: http://www.ewg.org/skindeep/product/388042/Neutrogena_Ultimate_Sport_Spray%2C_SPF_70/


I'm glad someone posted this website. Scary stuff!!! If you are looking for sunscreen...here are some good references.
http://www.ewg.org/skindeep/browse.php?category=sunscreen:_SPF_15-30&&showmore=products&start=0

Here is interesting info.
***The Truth About Sunlight, Cancer and Vitamin D***
http://naturalnews.tv/v.asp?v=5A62FC73922FD51A88E62E42C5A0AD5E
 

Fee

Legend
Anytime the sunscreen discussion comes up, someone always posts the EWG report. Their critieria has been disputed by people who explain it better than I do, I have decided to ignore their website and their opinion on sunscreen. I had been posting links to counter articles but I can't be bothered to do it anymore. They are considered alarmists and extremists by some and a lot of what they post is theory that is not backed up by research. But that's just my opinion.

Here is my criteria for sunscreen based on the research I have done for the last, oh, 10 years or so.

SPF 15 - 50. No more than that. Honestly, anything above 50 is just marketing considering that those high rating numbers aren't even allowed in a number of countries outside the US. Also, if the SPF really is that strong, then high concentrations of ingredients like that could lead to skin irritation and sensitizing. I don't spend that much time in the sun, I don't need SPF 7000.

Must contain one of the following UVA blocking ingredients: zinc oxide, titanium dioxide or avobenzone (I am lucky that I do not react to any of those ingredients, but some people do so be careful).

NO ALCOHOL. Most of the spray on formulas have alcohol, and it is very bad for your skin, especially if you are going to be out in the sun. Banana Boat spray for kids is alcohol free.

Name brands I tend to look for when I shop: Blue Lizard, BullFrog, Neutrogena, Banana Boat. There is not one line that is perfect across all products, so I read the ingredients on the back of the bottle, not the BS on the front. I see that Consumer Reports has recommended NoAd and Target's house brand, but I don't know what criteria they used so I will take a look at those brands next time I'm out and about.

For sweating, I use a STICK sunscreen. They are good around the eyes, the wax helps the sunblock stay in place.

Above all else, I put my sunscreen on before I get dressed so that it has time to set and create a barrier. If I have to reapply, I get into the shade, put it on, and try to sit there for a few minutes before I go back out into the sun.
 

r2473

G.O.A.T.
In addition I would buy the cheapest since the ingredients are inexpensive and the price differential is all marketing. Don't use on your face for tennis, wear a cap.
My wife was on the marketing team for a test sunscreen line Usana was trying to create some years ago. It never happened. They could never get the "rub-in" right. It just felt greasy and would run when you sweat. (They also couldn't get the smell right for some reason, which is very important naturally for women).

So I don't know about getting the cheapest one. Sure the ingredients are "the same", but some are better than others. Banana Boat sport rubs in great and never runs when I sweat. I rub it on my face before I play tennis. It's also not expensive like some of these "special" ones. You can also find it pretty much everywhere.

Of course, you need to put it on before you head out and start sweating and give it 30 minutes or so to work in.
 

ChipNCharge

Professional
NO ALCOHOL. Most of the spray on formulas have alcohol, and it is very bad for your skin, especially if you are going to be out in the sun. Banana Boat spray for kids is alcohol free.
That stinks, because for me, the spray sunscreens are so much faster and easier to use. Guess I could try the kiddie Banana Boat spray stuff.
 

couch

Hall of Fame
Just do research on Blue Lizard. I dont think it gets enough love on TW. Trust me it is the best on the market. I have a blood disorder that makes my skin photosensitive to the sun and this stuff does wonders. Try it and you will never look back.

You can get several different types based on your needs. I usually get the sensitive and use it on my hands and face. If I don't use a "block" I will get blisters and cysts on my hands and am unable to play tennis. Try it. You won't be disappointed.

Oh, and by the way, I'm not a paid sponsor. :)
 

sixftlion

Rookie
Anytime the sunscreen discussion comes up, someone always posts the EWG report. Their critieria has been disputed by people who explain it better than I do, I have decided to ignore their website and their opinion on sunscreen. I had been posting links to counter articles but I can't be bothered to do it anymore. They are considered alarmists and extremists by some and a lot of what they post is theory that is not backed up by research. But that's just my opinion.
ooh, sorry for repeating myself by bringing in the EWG. It was new to me, so I thought I'd share the link... But honestly, I don't really think that they should be less trusted than FDA, because FDA is pretty slow with everything and doesn't really seem to care. http://www.health-report.co.uk/EWG_makeup_chemicals_summary.htm
The EWG is a non-profit with some really smart people working there, why would they want to lie to us? If it is possible, why not use a sunscreen that protects well and is not too bad on the chemicals.
 
This is an old thread, maybe there are more, but this is the first one to pop up on my web search.

It’s now 2019, are there any changes in people’s recommendations for sunscreen? New brands or any new information that changed you minds?

Just saw this on my search as well, (thinksport is their top pick)

https://simplysunsafe.com/best-sunscreen-for-tennis/

but I thought it best to go to the source and ask real tennis players.

Thoughts?


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Harry_Wild

G.O.A.T.
Do not use sunscreen anymore! It is all a gimmick to sell tons of sunscreen lotion and related products! Melanoma scare is blown way out of proportion by the national media. If you see people who work outdoors year around most do not use sunscreen products. I don’t think many pro golfers wear it either since none that I know endorse the stuff. Surfers? Maritime sailors?
 
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Dim Sim

Rookie
Do not use sunscreen anymore! It is all a gimmick to sell tons of sunscreen lotion and related products! Melanoma scare is blown way out of proportion by the national media. If you see people who work outdoors year around most do not use sunscreen products. I don’t think many pro golfers wear it either since none that I know endorse the stuff. Surfers? Maritime sailors?
You Sir, are a dangerous lunatic. Luckily anyone half sensible will recognise you as such. The peril is that some poor soul may be persuaded by your nonsense. Melanomas kill quickly. Do you surf? Mick Fanning endorsed sunscreen.
 

Dim Sim

Rookie
Invisible Zinc and Clear Zinc (both brands) are good. Cerave’s zinc product is also good, I use it for ordinary daily wear, use IZinc for sustained exposure (spf50+ version very good but will make you go white).
 

ChaelAZ

Legend
I have tried all kinds and I prefer the Coppertone Sport SPF 30. I find many others wear off quickly with sweat, but the spray version of this stays one through a whole match.
 

whorng

Rookie
This is an old thread, maybe there are more, but this is the first one to pop up on my web search.

It’s now 2019, are there any changes in people’s recommendations for sunscreen? New brands or any new information that changed you minds?

Just saw this on my search as well, (thinksport is their top pick)

https://simplysunsafe.com/best-sunscreen-for-tennis/

but I thought it best to go to the source and ask real tennis players.

Thoughts?


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Thinksport will "melt" when I sweat in this 90 degree temp. But I think it's still effective if you put enough on. Maybe it depends on skin type?
Even my imported French sunscreen "melts."
European sunscreen has the best performance against the sun:
https://www.ewg.org/sunscreen/report/does-europe-have-better-sunscreens/
Importing sunscreen from Europe is trickier/expensive.
Physical (mineral) sunscreen is healthier to the body than chemical ones in the US market.
But I read physical has worse performance overall.
This seems like a popular higher end choice in the US market:
https://eltamd.com/product/uv-sport-broad-spectrum-spf-50/
If the physical sunscreen use non-nano ingredients, it's reef safe.
 

Dim Sim

Rookie
Saw a dermotologist recently for sun spots, was recommended to take 1000mg of nicacinamide (a form of vitamin b) a day as body of evidence shows it is helpful in removing sun spots and preventing sun damage. It’s also being added to Ego sunscreens in Australia. Get your own advice etc but my experience is that it does help reduce sunspots. I take 500mg twice a day. Also added 25mph to my serve.
 

Cobaine

Semi-Pro
Coppertone sport lotion works well. It stays on through sweat and light toweling. It also doesn’t have oxybenzone which has been found to be a strong and prevalent hormone disruptor.
 
Saw a dermotologist recently for sun spots, was recommended to take 1000mg of nicacinamide (a form of vitamin b) a day as body of evidence shows it is helpful in removing sun spots and preventing sun damage. It’s also being added to Ego sunscreens in Australia. Get your own advice etc but my experience is that it does help reduce sunspots. I take 500mg twice a day. Also added 25mph to my serve.
I tried that stuff a while ago and it tore apart my stomach. I wouldn't recommend to those prone to ulcers or acid reflux.
 

whorng

Rookie
Don't let the EWG site scare you. There isn't enough data to show what each of the ingredients does to the body. But we know the sun will cause damage/cancer.
Here is a list of ecosystem harmful chemicals: http://haereticus-lab.org/protect-land-sea-certification/
Companies may use different nomenclature so you may see Octyl methoxycinnamate or ethylhexyl methoxycinnamate instead of octinoxate.
http://www.cosdna.com/ is a cosmetic analyzer.
I personally chose to use chemical/hybrid sunscreens with minimal harmful chemicals.

I’m going to Europe in a couple weeks, so maybe I’ll have to pick up some while I’m there.
I recommend La Roche-Posay Shaka no perfume no tint. Only for the face/neck due to the price.
https://www.laroche-posay.com/products-treatments/Anthelios/Anthelios-Shaka-fluid-SPF50-p25310.aspx
It's SPF 50+, PPD 46 (very high UVA rating), Ultra-resistant to water, sweat and sand. Anti-eye stinging.
Cons: High in alcohol (possible skin irritation/breakouts/other issues), not for dry skin, may still cause eye stinging (doesn't sting my eyes), $$$.
Try to get something that at least says "very water resistant / resistant to repeated swimming."
 

Scoop

New User
Nothing too new to add from me that hasn't been added already. I use a combination of things:

- Blue Lizard primarily
- I don't like spray sunscreens but they are convenient. I just use it on the top of my head and neck since I rarely wear a hat
- Don't forget the lip protection! Lots of great options out there.
 
I don't worry about it too much since my doc told me that only one in 50,000 of those pre-cancers amount to anything--that's pretty good odds. He gives me a body-scan at check-ups and I leave it up to him to decide which need cutting or burning off. I do use sunscreen, Ocean Potion Dab-On Spot-Stick 50 spf around my eyes and the No-Ad Stick spf 50, roll-on for the rest, they're both relatively cheap over the internet but hard to find in stores. Liked the Neutragena roll-on but it's expensive and doesn't go far. The best I've found is Doc Martin's of Maui but can only get it directly from his office. He designed it for surfers who wouldn't use sunscreens because they would make their boards slippery. I use sunscreen for practice and rec play but not for tournaments--my matches don't last long enough these days to worry about an hour or less naked--also when competing no hat, they just get in the way and block the view of the ball at the critical moment of impact, and no sunglasses, even the best create distortion.
 
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