What the hell happened to Ryan Harrison?

winstonplum

Hall of Fame
145 and dropping. Jesus. He was at 45 almost exactly two years ago. I mean, the hype machine was a disaster--he was never going to be a top 10 player, but I thought he might have a decent career in the 30-50 range. Is it over for him?
 

President

Legend
His backhand is just too poor it seems, and his forehand (despite being a decent shot) can't make up the difference. He's a good mover too, but not good enough I guess. He should be doing a lot better than he is though, IMO. He has a very good serve and is a good athlete too. He has probably just got stuck in a rut, and is having a tough time breaking out of it.
 

tennisaddict

Bionic Poster
Shocking , almost Donald Young level of disappointment.

This guy was just on the shades of Raonic and now look hiw different their careers have panned out.

That said, his major draws were brutal.
 

westside

Hall of Fame
Shocking , almost Donald Young level of disappointment.

This guy was just on the shades of Raonic and now look hiw different their careers have panned out.

That said, his major draws were brutal.
This doesn't help. The kid has had a real tough run with the draws in Slams and Masters.
 

Tshooter

G.O.A.T.
...I mean, the hype machine was a disaster...
For us maybe. Perhaps not for him. He may have picked up some hefty endorsement deals (hopefully not performance based...) partially based on people swallowing the relentless hype and, if so, hats off to his agent(s). Didn't Wilander once peg Harrison as top 3 potential. :oops:
 

winstonplum

Hall of Fame
Should be moved to Former Pro Player forum ?
You're not kidding. I watched him beat Raonic at IW a couple of years back. He gave Federer a tough first set in the fourth round the same year. I think it was 2011. I think that summer he made the semis in Atlanta and LA. He had like three semis in the span of 12 months. Now, wow. He doesn't look the same.

I saw him play Idiotnini at IW this spring, and although it was a spirited match, RH didn't have that relentlessness and anger that he played with when he was a bit younger. After a long and hilarious match (Idiotnini doing his thing and wasting about 10 minutes in the middle of it arguing and insulting the umpire) RH seemed rather resigned to losing it midway through the third set. He looked pooped and just not that into it.

I suspect what happens is that rising stars that keep reaching new plateaus and then they don't reach anymore plateaus. Probably backsliding is extremely easy if you don't work like a maniac to at least maintain the level you've reached.
 

winstonplum

Hall of Fame
For us maybe. Perhaps not for him. He may have picked up some hefty endorsement deals (hopefully not performance based...) partially based on people swallowing the relentless hype and, if so, hats off to his agent(s). Didn't Wilander once peg Harrison as top 3 potential. :oops:
No, but through the summer and into the fall of 2011, Gimelstob kept going on and on about his top 10 potential. He had this cringe-worthy need to tell us about five times a match that Harrison already had one of the better second serves in the world.

Pat McEnroe, when he was in the booth, at least seamed ready to through some cold water on the lunacy.
 

Tshooter

G.O.A.T.
No, but through the summer and into the fall of 2011, Gimelstob kept going on and on about his top 10 potential. He had this cringe-worthy need to tell us about five times a match that Harrison already had one of the better second serves in the world.

Pat McEnroe, when he was in the booth, at least seamed ready to through some cold water on the lunacy.
Please don't get me started on Gimelstob. I start to sound irrational.
 

The Green Mile

Bionic Poster
Just another early hyped player that didn't make a real statement in the game. There have been threads like this in the past, and there will be threads like this in the future. A couple good matches and a decent result at a tournament, and the threads start flowing. But usually, they fail to make a lasting impression. Obviously there are exceptions...
 

heftylefty

Hall of Fame
Can we do what USA Soccer has done and hire someone from another country to take over the program? It's apparent the current people responsible really suck at this. Let PMac run the USTA Adult Leauge Tennis. More his speed.
 

big ted

Hall of Fame
it looks like he does everything well and tries hard but he doesnt seem to have an overwhelming weapon like what seems to be needed
 

bjk

Hall of Fame
When he first came on tour, his forehand was a real weapon. Obviously that's no longer the case.
 

t135

Professional
Hard court tennis is what's wrong with america. Guys get to the pros and find out the ball keeps coming back and have no idea what to do, and have to deal with weapons. Professional tennis isn't easy.
 

mental midget

Hall of Fame
my sense from harrison was that he could hit, and he could move ok. but he's not a world class hit and mover. game relies too much on having a lot of time to execute. other guys are just better.
 

big ted

Hall of Fame
i looked him up and i didnt know he is 6'2". and donald young is 6'0". when ive seen them play, they seem to play the game of a shorter player if that makes sense. i think that may be part of the problem.
 

winstonplum

Hall of Fame
i looked him up and i didnt know he is 6'2". and donald young is 6'0". when ive seen them play, they seem to play the game of a shorter player if that makes sense. i think that may be part of the problem.
That's laughable. Harrison might barely scrape 5' 11 1/2"
 

vernonbc

Legend
This guy was just on the shades of Raonic and now look hiw different their careers have panned out.
Reality happened to him. His true place is in the range of 100-1000 ranking
Reality in the form of no more wild cards. The only reason he got as high as he did in the rankings was because he got into a ton of tournaments he hadn't qualified for and managed to win a match here and there.

Raonic on the other hand scratched and clawed his way up the ladder, playing Challengers and qualies and working very hard to get into tournaments because wild cards weren't available to him. Obviously, learning how to play the game has benefited Milos in the end.
 

SoBad

G.O.A.T.
Ryan shot up through the jrs before 2007 and had a lot of success playing practice sets against ATP pros at the time. No wonder he's been in for a rude surprise post-2007.
 
Harrison is an example of the USA media system, the USA press are to blame they hype a young player BEFORE he gets the results. The USA media did the same thing with Melanie Oudin. The USA press is so messed up they hype these kids then blast them when they do not get big results. Yet the USA press is to blame for hyping these young players. It is the USA mentality so EXTRA! The good news for Harrison he is young only twenty one so I think people need to lay off Ryan a bit. This kid has TIME to get into the top 50 at least. But I think Ryan needs help his strokes are poor not enough depth or power. Ryan also has a sense of entitlement like Sloane Stephens must be USA thing this kind of attitude.
 

Tshooter

G.O.A.T.
Ryan shot up through the jrs before 2007 and had a lot of success playing practice sets against ATP pros at the time. No wonder he's been in for a rude surprise post-2007.
Success in the Juniors is an uncertain bellweather for the pros. Melzer won Junior Wimby to launch his fine career. Sometimes it doesn't work out as well. Berankis won 2007 USO Junior title. Rude surprise when he ran into Melzer in 2010 out on court 7.
 

Edgecrusher

Professional
Harrison was hyped way too much. He will be soon forgotten when the upcoming younger players like Zverev, Kyrgios, Kokkinakis, Coric, Thiem etc. will step up to inherit the status of today´s top players.
 

Devilito

Hall of Fame
He's a big strong kid with a huge serve that has the groundstrokes of a 5'-2", 135lb junior. He had good results early when he was aggressive, came into the net more etc. Then he changed his game to be a huge grinder and started getting his *** kicked by everyone.
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
he should slice his backhand more and mix it up. He needs to hire JImmy Connors to improve his backhand and make it a weapon like Jimmin's was.
 

President

Legend
He followed the Roddick blueprint, hit a huge serve and then stay back and grind. Just like Roddick (although obviously to a much greater degree), this tactic doesn't work when playing the much more athletic European players who can out grind him all day. Harrison should use his natural weapons, his serve and his good touch and come forward more often.
 
RYAN SWEETING also

what happened to him? he won the us clay houston a few years ago then fell off the face of the earth...i guess injuries but still you never anything about him
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
He followed the Roddick blueprint, hit a huge serve and then stay back and grind. Just like Roddick (although obviously to a much greater degree), this tactic doesn't work when playing the much more athletic European players who can out grind him all day. Harrison should use his natural weapons, his serve and his good touch and come forward more often.
he needs mats Wilander to teach him the great backhand
 

Sid_Vicious

G.O.A.T.
He followed the Roddick blueprint, hit a huge serve and then stay back and grind. Just like Roddick (although obviously to a much greater degree), this tactic doesn't work when playing the much more athletic European players who can out grind him all day. Harrison should use his natural weapons, his serve and his good touch and come forward more often.
So much greater that you might as well not even make this comparison. Roddick's serve makes Harrison's look average. In his early 20s, Roddick was ridiculous in the sense that he would blast all his 1st serves and still have a 1st serve percentage of 65-70%. Harrison is doomed when his 1st serve goes off-target; he wins less than 50% of points on 2nd serves.
 

SoBad

G.O.A.T.
Success in the Juniors is an uncertain bellweather for the pros. Melzer won Junior Wimby to launch his fine career. Sometimes it doesn't work out as well. Berankis won 2007 USO Junior title. Rude surprise when he ran into Melzer in 2010 out on court 7.
Melzer hasn’t been around since getting tossed out of Wimbledon 1R like a spoiled piece of bratwurst – has he officially retired? Looks like getting stomped by Berankis in front of the pathetic home crowd in Munich has taken its toll on the cheating journeyman!!:lol:
 

SoBad

G.O.A.T.
what happened to him? he won the us clay houston a few years ago then fell off the face of the earth...i guess injuries but still you never anything about him
Yet another story of a promising tennis talent cut short by Hollywood before it could realize itself. Tough to fight the allure of the high life on the coast and stick to the grind of the tour.

 

Rjtennis

Hall of Fame
Harrison plays with such a grinders mentality. He is way behind baseline most of the time and he doesn't have the firepower to do any damage from back. Harrison has good foot speed, a nice serve and has the ability to play at the net. If he can start playing more aggressive I think he could climb up the rankings. I think he is definitely a better all-around athlete than DY.
 

Devilito

Hall of Fame
Yet another story of a promising tennis talent cut short by Hollywood before it could realize itself. Tough to fight the allure of the high life on the coast and stick to the grind of the tour.

man poor guy. He looks like he's having a rough go of it... :p
 

tennisaddict

Bionic Poster
I expect Jack Sock to go in the same way as Harrison.

Has a very average game. Lots of hype for nothing.

Tried to cheat Isner out of a bad call, but when umpire called out his bluff, he complained 'You are ruining the match for me'.

Sam Querrey and Isner are probably Federer and Nadal like given the rest of the US talent that is coming up.
 
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