What the hell is Arnaud Clement doing?!

loner1984

Rookie
Makes no sense. I know he's a head man, but why would you have a racquet, even if its a head racquet painted like a wilson racquet. He should've just blacked it out. Sponsors would fume at this stuff.
 

uk_skippy

Hall of Fame
Without knowning the real reason, here's my take:-

Clement has generally always used Head rqts. however he went through a period where he was using the Babolat Pure Drive with the two strips. But he does use VS gut strings. I suspect that at that time he was out of contract or in furhter contract negotiations with Head.

Clement was playing against Tursenov who also uses Wilson KBlades. If Clement had left Head then he wouldn't have the Head logo on his rqt. I suspect that his usual Head rqts have be mislaid, or lost in transit and has 'borrowed' some rqts from Tursenov. If the rqts are another players then he couldn't really black them out.

This has happened in the past to other players. McEnroe once borrowed Goran's Prestiges & Wimbledon one year. He even left the country with them, to which I don't think Goran was happy with.

I think there is a straight-forward reason why he's using those rqts.

Regards

Paul
 
Clement was playing against Tursenov who also uses Wilson KBlades. If Clement had left Head then he wouldn't have the Head logo on his rqt. I suspect that his usual Head rqts have be mislaid, or lost in transit and has 'borrowed' some rqts from Tursenov. If the rqts are another players then he couldn't really black them out.
nope. that racket is a kblade98. tursunov uses the 93
 

vsbabolat

G.O.A.T.
nope. that racket is a kblade98. tursunov uses the 93
No, Tursunov uses the 98 with the cosmetics of the 93. But I see your point about the different cosmetics on Clement's racquet and Tursunov's. This is very strange indeed what Clement is doing.... Maybe HEAD has cut off Clement's supply of PT57A's??
 
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BDAZ

Professional
isn't it really a moot point as tursunov doesn't actually use either of the kblades, rather a custom mold from wilson that is close (at least from pics) of his old head?
 

Bobble

Semi-Pro
That is definitely Clement's Head racquet with a wilson pj, wish someone caught a glimpse of what bag he brought on court to see if the pj was some kind of mistake.
 

uk_skippy

Hall of Fame
nope. that racket is a kblade98. tursunov uses the 93
No, Tursunov uses the 98 with the cosmetics of the 93. But I see your point about the different cosmetics on Clement's racquet and Tursunov's. This is very strange indeed what Clement is doing.... Maybe HEAD has cut off Clement's supply of PT57A's??
I merely suggested that he may have 'borrowed' Tursunov's rqts. In essence I was saying that he's borrowed someone else's rqts. I wasn't really looking into the absolute details of the rqts.

Maybe if P-H Mathieu is playing the same event then as He's french then maybe Clement has borrowed some of his rqts. Why he's using the Wilson is still open to speculation. I'd still suspect that his Head rqts have gone walk-about.

isn't it really a moot point as tursunov doesn't actually use either of the kblades, rather a custom mold from wilson that is close (at least from pics) of his old head?
The moot point is the discussion about what Tursunov really uses, or what paintjob he's got, or which version Clement is using as I raised the point about he (Clement) using Tursunov's rqt. People have obviously supplied info to the contrary.

The point, I think, is why Clement is not using a Head rqt, but a Wilson with a Head stencil.

Regards

Paul
 

hyogen

Hall of Fame
i think he's a confused man...

look at the pictures where he's wearing a blue Lacoste shirt....with blue nike cages -_-
 

Bobble

Semi-Pro
i think he's a confused man...

look at the pictures where he's wearing a blue Lacoste shirt....with blue nike cages -_-
It's quite typical for lacoste players to wear nikes, asics, or even adidas for shoes.

I don't think they are borrowed frames from Dima or PHM seeing as his are extended length and neither of the other two use extended frames. still really confusing about the stencil though, it has to be that the frames were incorrectly pj'd.
 

Jonnyf

Legend
It's quite typical for lacoste players to wear nikes, asics, or even adidas for shoes.

I don't think they are borrowed frames from Dima or PHM seeing as his are extended length and neither of the other two use extended frames. still really confusing about the stencil though, it has to be that the frames were incorrectly pj'd.

You can't "incorectly" pj a frame. That's impossible. They're from different factories and are most likely slightly different. Wilson wouldn't "accidentaly" paintjob a head racquet for a player to use with a head stencil.



note: before someone mentions it, this is different to the likes of Safin's "dunlops"
 

SempreSami

Hall of Fame
We've officially entered bizarro world. Tomorrow we'll hear stories about Federer turning up on court with a POG OS with the Wilson 'W' stencil on the strings and Nadal a Wilson [K]Zero with Babolat stripes.
 

NickC

Professional
No, Tursunov uses the 98 with the cosmetics of the 93.
Incorrect. Prior to signing with Wilson, he was with Head, and used a Prestige Mid mold (I believe it was the original PT630). When he signed with Wilson, he used the cosmetics of the K90, but since the Wilson 90 series is kind of exclusive to Fed, they painted his frame to look like the KBlade Tour.
 
This is actually not that uncommon.....in the golf industry..You will see guys using a different company's driver but putting their company's headcover over it. Im pretty sure this is what Clement is doing. As long as he is marketing Head racquets with the stencil--all is good.
 
Incorrect. Prior to signing with Wilson, he was with Head, and used a Prestige Mid mold (I believe it was the original PT630). When he signed with Wilson, he used the cosmetics of the K90, but since the Wilson 90 series is kind of exclusive to Fed, they painted his frame to look like the KBlade Tour.
it was suppost suppost to be the six one 95, i seen him in person using it at the nottingham open.
 

SempreSami

Hall of Fame
Incorrect. Prior to signing with Wilson, he was with Head, and used a Prestige Mid mold (I believe it was the original PT630). When he signed with Wilson, he used the cosmetics of the K90, but since the Wilson 90 series is kind of exclusive to Fed, they painted his frame to look like the KBlade Tour.
Wasn't it more like in 2007 a few HEAD players had been signed by Wilson but since they were trying to push the new [K]Factor stuff they gave them the Six-One paintjob until they released the [K]Blade which is more like a HEAD frame (no PWS etc).
 

orangettecoleman

Professional
Well, if something happened in transit to his racquets and he had to borrow Dima's (like Stepanek did in Beijing with Djokovic), he would just have had to make do and adjust to the standard length. I don't think it's that unreasonable that he just borrowed Dima's racquets and did his best to adjust tot he different length, considering the alternative would have been to default the tournament i guess. and i'm sure he could have the stringer put the head logo on his strings to make his sponsors happy, and make the best of a bad situation.
 

NickC

Professional
Well, if something happened in transit to his racquets and he had to borrow Dima's (like Stepanek did in Beijing with Djokovic), he would just have had to make do and adjust to the standard length. I don't think it's that unreasonable that he just borrowed Dima's racquets and did his best to adjust tot he different length, considering the alternative would have been to default the tournament i guess. and i'm sure he could have the stringer put the head logo on his strings to make his sponsors happy, and make the best of a bad situation.
I think this is the case. Good call.
 

127mph

Semi-Pro
clement switching to wilson, or he could be doing what stepanek did with djokovic's racquet at masters cup.
 

vsbabolat

G.O.A.T.
Incorrect. Prior to signing with Wilson, he was with Head, and used a Prestige Mid mold (I believe it was the original PT630). When he signed with Wilson, he used the cosmetics of the K90, but since the Wilson 90 series is kind of exclusive to Fed, they painted his frame to look like the KBlade Tour.
I was referring to the difference of the paint job of the KBlade Tour vs. Kbalde MP. That Clement has the Kblade MP cosmetics while Tursonov has Kblade Tour cosmetics.
 
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uk_skippy

Hall of Fame
Incorrect. Prior to signing with Wilson, he was with Head, and used a Prestige Mid mold (I believe it was the original PT630). When he signed with Wilson, he used the cosmetics of the K90, but since the Wilson 90 series is kind of exclusive to Fed, they painted his frame to look like the KBlade Tour.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the PT630 is a 'midplus' head size (630sq cm = 98 sq in) whereas the Head mid mold is 600 sq cm = 93 sq in. And yes I know about the discussion re how Head measure their rqt heads.

clement switching to wilson, or he could be doing what stepanek did with djokovic's racquet at masters cup.
I think thats what this thread is about.

Regards

Paul
 

roundiesee

Hall of Fame
It reminds me of Borg with his K90 and Head stencil :shock:
Yes, true; only Borg had his "head" stencil "tilted" in an odd manner, like horizontal instead of vertical, for some reason. Guess we'll never know the true story behind that either....:(
 
Yes, true; only Borg had his "head" stencil "tilted" in an odd manner, like horizontal instead of vertical, for some reason. Guess we'll never know the true story behind that either....:(
At least he did black out his K90 some times. It was only a few times where he had the K90 with the Head stencil, and either Wilson or Head was not happy... forgot haha...
 

NickC

Professional
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the PT630 is a 'midplus' head size (630sq cm = 98 sq in) whereas the Head mid mold is 600 sq cm = 93 sq in. And yes I know about the discussion re how Head measure their rqt heads.
You're right, I'm wrong. Great call. Must have been the PT600 or something along those lines. My mistake.
 

vsbabolat

G.O.A.T.
You're right, I'm wrong. Great call. Must have been the PT600 or something along those lines. My mistake.
Before Wilson Tursunov used the i.Prestige MP (630cm2) with the Paint Job of the FXP Prestige MP. Before that it had a LM Prestige Paint Job, before that it had actually i.Prestige MP cosmetics, before that Tursunov actually used the Ti. Radical MP, and before that Tursonov used the ProKennex Kinetic 5G.
Took these two pics below (merged) at the Medibank International (Sydney / NSW Open).

Now that I know it's Turnsunov :), I figure it may interest some people and have posted it as this separate new thread.... (you can clearly see the Wilson grommets in the below pics...)


Pic 2 - didn't mean to cut his head off, but was 'focussing' on getting the pics of the frames... ;)

If you did not try to bust me on the actual racquet that Tursunov uses we would not have to go through this kind of exercise.

Sorry for hijacking this thread everyone.
 
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it cant be tursnovs racquet because his paint job of the racquet is a kblade tour and clements is the 98 and even if it was his why would tursnov have a head stencil on his racquet
 

orangettecoleman

Professional
it cant be tursnovs racquet because his paint job of the racquet is a kblade tour and clements is the 98 and even if it was his why would tursnov have a head stencil on his racquet
Clement got the racquets restrung and had the tournament stringer put on a head stencil to keep his sponsors happy. I'm sure it's in his contract that he has to play with a head stencil. even if in this instance neither his racquet nor his string were made by head.
 

Richie Rich

Legend
Clement got the racquets restrung and had the tournament stringer put on a head stencil to keep his sponsors happy. I'm sure it's in his contract that he has to play with a head stencil. even if in this instance neither his racquet nor his string were made by head.
wonder how wilson feels about that?
 

jelle v

Hall of Fame
Watching the Murray - Clement match right now...

Don't know if Clement is having the same problems with his rackets as in Rotterdam, but Clement -again- is playing with a "Wilson kBlade" (or something that is painted to look like a kBlade).

This time around, Clement isn't even using a Head-stencil, he's playing with all white strings.

Did he really get dumped by Head this time or what?
 

JW10S

Hall of Fame
Did he really get dumped by Head this time or what?
I don't know specifically about Clement but I do know some former HEAD players (Monfils, Karlovic) did not have their contracts renewed when HEAD signed Djokovic. One could speculate Clement is in the same boat. The money had to come from somewhere...
 
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saram

Legend
Well, if something happened in transit to his racquets and he had to borrow Dima's (like Stepanek did in Beijing with Djokovic), he would just have had to make do and adjust to the standard length. I don't think it's that unreasonable that he just borrowed Dima's racquets and did his best to adjust tot he different length, considering the alternative would have been to default the tournament i guess. and i'm sure he could have the stringer put the head logo on his strings to make his sponsors happy, and make the best of a bad situation.
Good point, but this is over the span of two different tournaments. And, no logo in Dubai as opposed to the previous tournament.
 
I just saw Clement drop off a racquet at the stringers at the BMW challenger and its a KBlade 98 with Babolat Natural Gut. He dropped off 3 of them and said no stencil.
 

roundiesee

Hall of Fame
What possible reason could Arnaud have for switching to the KBlade98, after having used the Head PT 280 for so long? And switching to full gut? I thought that trend had disappeared amongst the pros. Even Pete uses a hybrid now I think.
 

orangettecoleman

Professional
What possible reason could Arnaud have for switching to the KBlade98, after having used the Head PT 280 for so long? And switching to full gut? I thought that trend had disappeared amongst the pros. Even Pete uses a hybrid now I think.
I don't know if you could call using natural gut a "trend" since that's what everyone has been using ever since the game was invented. anyway, Clement has always used full natural gut.
 

bluegrasser

Hall of Fame
What possible reason could Arnaud have for switching to the KBlade98, after having used the Head PT 280 for so long? And switching to full gut? I thought that trend had disappeared amongst the pros. Even Pete uses a hybrid now I think.
I think when players get near the end of their career they sometimes look to change sticks...maybe to give them a little more pop etc. Arnaud also was using a PD like Chang did toward the end.
 
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