What Thiem does right that Zverev doesn't

Between these who are the GS Goat?

  • Dominic Thiem

    Votes: 17 89.5%
  • Alexander Zverev

    Votes: 2 10.5%

  • Total voters
    19
#1
Thiem seems to really be able to play GS matches much better than Zverev. Why?


I really think it seems that Thiem just raises his level at GS while Zverev lowers it. For Thiem it seems that playing a GS motivates him to keep fighting on in the match, while for Zverev a GS makes him nervous.

What I'd like to discuss and my reason for this thread is to ask some, Who is a true GS tennis player? Thiem, Zverev or both?
 
#2
Humility.

Thiem generally does raise his level at Slams compared to smaller events.

And I think that when they're playing bad and go back to grinding, Thiem is a bit better at it than Zverev. So Thiem is a bit better at winning bad matches, especially in Grand Slams.

He's also not as easily sliced, and while you just go to the forehand vs Zverev, Thiem is more consistent between wings.
 
#3
Thiem seems to really be able to play GS matches much better than Zverev. Why?


I really think it seems that Thiem just raises his level at GS while Zverev lowers it. For Thiem it seems that playing a GS motivates him to keep fighting on in the match, while for Zverev a GS makes him nervous.

What I'd like to discuss and my reason for this thread is to ask some, Who is a true GS tennis player? Thiem, Zverev or both?
Thiem is a better big match player while Zverev is a better BO3 player.
Thiem has the mentality of a champion. Zverev hasn't developed that big match prowess yet, but he will probably come into his own in time, just as Federer did. He also had disappointing Slam performances before 2003
 
#4
Thiem seems to really be able to play GS matches much better than Zverev. Why?


I really think it seems that Thiem just raises his level at GS while Zverev lowers it. For Thiem it seems that playing a GS motivates him to keep fighting on in the match, while for Zverev a GS makes him nervous. This combined produces high pressure on him in every BO5 match. He is like "Oh, I’m so good, how could this Mug tightened me into a 5th.”
And high expectations laid of him doesn’t help at all.

What I'd like to discuss and my reason for this thread is to ask some, Who is a true GS tennis player? Thiem, Zverev or both?
Zverev is too narcissistic, impatient and overhyped by everyone including himself.

Thiem is not. Instead of talking he works hard. That’s it.
 
#8
Thiem seems to really be able to play GS matches much better than Zverev. Why?
Zverev is a very low bar at slams so far. Why not look at it this way: Thiem is 4 years older than Zverev and routinely chokes big matches in slams. He's made one final where he was destroyed, but that's against Rafa on clay, so welcome to the club on that one. But how could he have lost to Nadal from a winning position at the USO in 2018? What about his choke against Del Po at the USO as well?

I'm not sure why anyone would start a thread touting Thiem's GS prowess when he's never come close to winning even one of them.
 
#9
A dose of reality: Thiem hadn't made it past the 4th round of a slam when he was Zverev's age.
Yeah, I don't understand this thread. Both guys have championship mentality. Zverev just eithers tires out too early or he doesn't know how to manage his intensity throughout 5 sets and burns out quickly.

Thiem just doesn't think sometimes, Zverev is what I posted above.
 
#11
Thiem seems to really be able to play GS matches much better than Zverev. Why?


I really think it seems that Thiem just raises his level at GS while Zverev lowers it. For Thiem it seems that playing a GS motivates him to keep fighting on in the match, while for Zverev a GS makes him nervous.

What I'd like to discuss and my reason for this thread is to ask some, Who is a true GS tennis player? Thiem, Zverev or both?
Thiem plays on clay better, where Nadal is the only good player on tour. So less competition.
 
#17
Thiem's major weakness is between his large ears. By that I mean his preference to go all-out on every aspect of his game even if there is an option for some subtlety. If he could hit a 100 mph drop shot, he would.

That's not as easy to exploit compared to Zverev's weaknesses, ie his FH and net play.
 
#20
Thiem seems to really be able to play GS matches much better than Zverev. Why?
Thiem is 3.5 years older than Zverev. What did he achieve at GS's 3.5 years ago (summer 2015)?
I'll tell you what: one 4th round at the USO, the rest was 1st and 2nd rounds. That's it.
Zverev now has a QF plus 3rd rounds at the other three GS's.
So far, only Thiem's RG results are impressive out of his GS results. He has one QF at the USO. The rest is 4th rounds and worse, which is actually below his ranking during last seasons.
 
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#22
Thiem's weakness is his game play. If plan A doesn't work, he is dead. No plan B. No real improvement since 2016. The next Berdych.
Bit of an insult to Berdych imo. To be fair, the lack of plan B for Berdych is really only shown against the Big 4. Thiem barely has a plan B against anyone, which is why he often loses to players he shouldn't lose to.
 
#25
Zverev gets frustated too easily which is why he has gone out early in Slams to lower ranked players and why his chances of winning drop the longer a match goes (more time for an opponent to frustrate him).

Thiem is a better defender (faster) so it’s easier for him to stay in matches and go toe to toe against top players like he did against Nadal at the USO. And while he hits big, he doesn’t have as much natural power that Zverev has due to size so I don’t think he’s going to be as consistent from match to match.
 
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