What will be Alcaraz's best surface in about three years?

What will be Alcaraz's best surface in about three years?

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Spin Diesel

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He pretty much has everything he needs to be great on any surface. I guess in a few years he completely figures out the movement on grass and he will deal better with opponents that manage to rush him in baseline exchanges. His net game is really good already, so I believe he will be able to play at a comparably high level on grass, with the benefit that the rest of the field isn't so comfortable on that surface.

So what do you think will be his best surface in about three years.
 
Will be easiest for him to dominate clay after Djokodal retire. HC he can be hurt by Sinner, Rune etc but they’re miles behind him on clay rn
 
jl809 said:
Will be easiest for him to dominate clay after Djokodal retire. HC he can be hurt by Sinner, Rune etc but they’re miles behind him on clay rn
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Miles behind on clay and still Carlos has only two clay master and that too on most unlike clay surface
 
Outside his serve, his game is completely built for hc, anybody can ve wrong about future events but for me his game clicks best on hc and if did get his serve right, he will become huge monster on hc
 
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Clay The field is much weaker and shallow there than this it is on hards. He’s a better hardcourt player but so is everyone else. But that of course if he stays healthy. Which he won’t. In 3 years he will be sliding down the rankings. People are delusional if they think he’s gonna have a Nadal and djokovic career
 
NAS said:
Miles behind on clay and still Carlos has only two clay master and that too on most unlike clay surface
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You saw him at RG this year, who was he going to lose to other than Djokovic? He might pick up some random Ls at MC or Rome to randomers, but when the big one comes round, it will be his for a few years for sure
 
A lot of people are quite sure regarding hard over clay - I'm actually surprised about that. I see both surfaces pretty much about equal but with a slight advantage towards clay actually. I mean one of the strategies that worked best against him in the past was if you manage to rush him. But that's going to be more difficult on clay than on hard, don't you think?
 
Spin Diesel said:
A lot of people are quite sure regarding hard over clay - I'm actually surprised about that. I see both surfaces pretty much about equal but with a slight advantage towards clay actually. I mean one of the strategies that worked best against him in the past was if you manage to rush him. But that's going to be more difficult on clay than on hard, don't you think?
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And yeah - for now he already won a lot more titles on clay, even though there are a lot more hard court tournaments.
 
I get that ruud is a somewhat boring player, but y'all are being quite dismissive of his clay abilities and the improvement he's shown yoy at Roland Garros.

Plus there's always some solid argentinian Italian and Spanish clay players popping up and playing high level in the dirt.
 
chic said:
I get that ruud is a somewhat boring player, but y'all are being quite dismissive of his clay abilities and the improvement he's shown yoy at Roland Garros.

Plus there's always some solid argentinian Italian and Spanish clay players popping up and playing high level in the dirt.
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But there's also always solid hard courters around.
 
StrongRule said:
Just a fact. His future success fully depends on whether someone will be able to take Djokovic out for him. (which is highly unlikely in BO5)
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He most certainly can beat Djokovic in BO5, the RG was disappointing but it's just one match. Didn't prime Hewitt, the defending champion, lose to 11 years older Agassi at the 2002 USO? If he continues losing to Djokovic in the future, then you'll have a point, but drawing any relevant conclusion from one match is simply silly.
 
Spin Diesel said:
But there's also always solid hard courters around.
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Right that's why I said he'd be best on hard (largest no of tourneys, and what his game already seems most adapted for) but most dominant on grass.

He'll have more time to invest on grass adjustments given his existing depth on the other surfaces and more motivation to do so given that the sport places the most prestige on winning wimbledon.
 
Turning Pro said:
Already won U.S so looks good for hards.
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My answer has nothing to do with because he won hard.
Even Fed won Clay master first and then went into Rone final.
But I said even then his style is more suited to hc of course I was proven wrong because he was more successful on grass.
For Carlito his whole game looks like hc game outside his serve. If he get his serve right what players can do to stop him on hc.
At least on clay you can get some error by playing long rallies but on hc his baseline game is too much complete like IW or Miami this year.
 
Sampras-Bruguera 1993 said:
Clay The field is much weaker and shallow there than this it is on hards. He’s a better hardcourt player but so is everyone else. But that of course if he stays healthy. Which he won’t. In 3 years he will be sliding down the rankings. People are delusional if they think he’s gonna have a Nadal and djokovic career
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Why is that delusional? Rafa was hurt often too. He already won the US Open and if he plays as long as Rafa and Djokovic he will get to play, conservatively, around 60 more slams in his career. If you don't think he can win 20 Slams out of 60 I would beg to differ. He has shown a more mature, well rounded game than Rafa and Djokovic at his age and I don't see him having to battle other all time greats his whole career. We will see. What so many fans seem leave out, is the reason why Fed, Rafa and Novak have so many Slams is because they not only are great, but today player's play around 30 more Slams than the all time greats used to on surfaces that are all very similar (homogenized) so they can essentially play the same way on all surfaces. More opportunity and not having to adapt to any faster surfaces makes a huge difference.
 
NAS said:
My answer has nothing to do with because he won hard.
Even Fed won Clay master first and then went into Rone final.
But I said even then his style is more suited to hc of course I was proven wrong because he was more successful on grass.
For Carlito his whole game looks like hc game outside his serve. If he get his serve right what players can do to stop him on hc.
At least on clay you can get some error by playing long rallies but on hc his baseline game is too much complete like IW or Miami this year.
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Yeah but this was a hard court slam rather than fed with a relatively smaller tournament so not quite the same bro.
 
slow hard>clay>grass>fast hard
 
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Kralingen said:
What’s funny is it might actually be grass because of how clueless everyone from his generation is on it.

On an absolute level it’s probably HC.
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I too think it is going to be grass, as there is no one else decent other than Hurcakz.
Good serve, good FH, decent at the net. All will help.
 
netlets said:
Why is that delusional? Rafa was hurt often too. He already won the US Open and if he plays as long as Rafa and Djokovic he will get to play, conservatively, around 60 more slams in his career. If you don't think he can win 20 Slams out of 60 I would beg to differ. He has shown a more mature, well rounded game than Rafa and Djokovic at his age and I don't see him having to battle other all time greats his whole career. We will see. What so many fans seem leave out, is the reason why Fed, Rafa and Novak have so many Slams is because they not only are great, but today player's play around 30 more Slams than the all time greats used to on surfaces that are all very similar (homogenized) so they can essentially play the same way on all surfaces. More opportunity and not having to adapt to any faster surfaces makes a huge difference.
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Do you think the standard for the best players of the next generations will be to win at least 20 Grand Slam titles?
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I think he can dominate on most surfaces. But until he proves he isn’t such a wimp and can prevent his child like cramping and getting injured regularly the surface doesn’t matter.
 
DSH said:
Do you think the standard for the best players of the next generations will be to win at least 20 Grand Slam titles?
:cautious:
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If they are truly great players, and they have longevity, yes. They play so many more Slams.
 
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