What will the final result of Sascha Zverev on the 2019 AO?

Sascha's final result at 2019 AO?

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The same question I placed during the 2018 US Open (https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/ind...sult-sasha-zverev-on-the-2018-us-open.625447/), Sascha had tennis ATG Lendl for the first time in his boxing, but lost in the 3rd round with compatriot Kohlschreiber. Sascha achieve a much better result at the 2019 Australian Open, or he again fails during first week?

His draw:
1R - Bedene
2R - Chardy
3R - Simon
4R - Raonic
QF - Thiem
SF - Djokovic
F - Nadal/Federer

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Australian_Open_–_Men's_Singles#Section_3
 
If Healthy he could win it all(I think that Djokovic fails before the SF), if his injury is not going away ... probably early exit or withdraw.
 
Enceladus said:
The same question I placed during the 2018 US Open (https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/ind...sult-sasha-zverev-on-the-2018-us-open.625447/), Sascha had tennis ATG Lendl for the first time in his boxing, but lost in the 3rd round with compatriot Kohlschreiber. Sascha achieve a much better result at the 2019 Australian Open, or he again fails during first week?

His draw:
1R - Bedene
2R - Chardy
3R - Simon
4R - Raonic
QF - Thiem
SF - Djokovic
F - Nadal/Federer

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Australian_Open_–_Men's_Singles#Section_3
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2018 US Open draw was an opportunity for Zedrot despite some poor momentum entering the event, 2019 Auz draw is a gift with Thiem his big obstacle to making SF.:sneaky: Djokovic is a paper tiger on these courts with a draining draw so expecting Zverev to go all the way to the final where Federer will handle him easily (probably wins against anyone else if he doesn't get into a bunch of long matches on the way; even Nadal.:eek:)
 
Bukmeikara said:
Its good to know that the world is centered around your negative opinion of Zverev, point taken
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I don't understand why people like yourself is building up Zverev when he has NOT accomplished anything at GS events. The only thing Zverev has done really well at GS is getting beat in the early round. Am I wrong?
 
Meles said:
2018 US Open draw was an opportunity for Zedrot despite some poor momentum entering the event, 2019 Auz draw is a gift with Thiem his big obstacle to making SF.:sneaky: Djokovic is a paper tiger on these courts with a draining draw so expecting Zverev to go all the way to the final where Federer will handle him easily (probably wins against anyone else if he doesn't get into a bunch of long matches on the way; even Nadal.:eek:)
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It is about time the world number four and winner of the WTF makes a deep run in a hard court major.
 
borna coric said:
I don't understand why people like yourself is building up Zverev when he has NOT accomplished anything at GS events. The only thing Zverev has done really well at GS is getting beat in the early round. Am I wrong?
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Him doing what he is doing outside Slam events shows that his lack of results are mostly due .. " bad luck " or bad variation. And all if this is backed up by history and mostly ATG players who had similar results at his age. 3/5 format gives overall advantge for the better players, Nadal said it himself
 
Bukmeikara said:
Him doing what he is doing outside Slam events shows that his lack of results are mostly due .. " bad luck " or bad variation. And all if this is backed up by history and mostly ATG players who had similar results at his age. 3/5 format gives overall advantage for the better players, Nadal said it himself
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Non GS events are best 2/3. GS events are best 3/5. Furthermore, GS events are two weeks events and if you're one of the top 4 seeds at GS events, everyone will come to play you with their A game. In other words, they will come at you with everything they have. It proves to me that Zverev does not have what it takes to shine at the biggest tennis stage, GS events. Let recap how he did in 2018 GS events:

2018 AO: Lost to Chung 6-0 in the 5th set of the 3rd round
2018 FO: Lost to Thiem in straight set; 6-2, 6-1 in last two sets of the QF match
2018 Wim: Lost to Gublis 6-0 in the 5th set of the 3rd round
2018 USO: Lost to Kohlschreiber in 4 sets, 6-1 and 6-3 in the 3rd round

Do you see a pattern here? Not only Zverev lost to players that he should not be losing to but he lost REALLY BAD. It means that not only those guys brought their A game to play Zverev and that Zverev could NOT handle the pressure of being the higher seed and he folded like a cheap suit.

Therefore, please stop promoting Zeverev because he hasn't done squash at GS events.
 
borna coric said:
Non GS events are best 2/3. GS events are best 3/5. Furthermore, GS events are two weeks events and if you're one of the top 4 seeds at GS events, everyone will come to play you with their A game. In other words, they will come at you with everything they have. It proves to me that Zverev does not have what it takes to shine at the biggest tennis stage, GS events. Let recap how he did in 2018 GS events:

2018 AO: Lost to Chung 6-0 in the 5th set of the 3rd round
2018 FO: Lost to Thiem in straight set; 6-2, 6-1 in last two sets of the QF match
2018 Wim: Lost to Gublis 6-0 in the 5th set of the 3rd round
2018 USO: Lost to Kohlschreiber in 4 sets, 6-1 and 6-3 in the 3rd round

Do you see a pattern here? Not only Zverev lost to players that he should not be losing to but he lost REALLY BAD. It means that not only those guys brought their A game to play Zverev and that Zverev could NOT handle the pressure of being the higher seed and he folded like a cheap suit.

Therefore, please stop promoting Zeverev because he hasn't done squash at GS events.
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So, your patterns come from one player, one season and 4 events. Mine come from multiple players, multiple seasons and multiple events ...

Given your logic, Federer back in 2002 would have never won a Slam and he had lesser success than Zverev against a field which wasnt top heavy as now days.
 
I'll believe he's healthy when I see him play. Until then, I'm not expecting a single win.

Bedene isn't exactly a great player, but I wouldn't be shocked to see him beat Sascha.
 
MeatTornado said:
I'll believe he's healthy when I see him play. Until then, I'm not expecting a single win.

Bedene isn't exactly a great player, but I wouldn't be shocked to see him beat Sascha.
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Exactly, we saw something similar with Federer last year, losing matches he should win, only later we heard about the injury.
 
Zebrev said:
Exactly, we saw something similar with Federer last year, losing matches he should win, only later we heard about the injury.
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12th time:

ZVEREV IS NOT INJURED! He is practicing normally and says he feels "absolutely fine." I already posted the link to his remarks.
 
Bukmeikara said:
So, your patterns come from one player, one season and 4 events. Mine come from multiple players, multiple seasons and multiple events ...

Given your logic, Federer back in 2002 would have never won a Slam and he had lesser success than Zverev against a field which wasnt top heavy as now days.
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Your comparison is severely flawed. ATP 1000/500/250 events are best 2/3 while GS events are best 3/5. As I've said before, GS events are completely different mind sets. GS events are two weeks long and everyone brings the A game to GS events to beat the top 4 seeded players In 2018 Zverev showed that not only he could NOT beat players at GS events who were seeded lower than he was but he lost to them BAD.

And please do not compare Zverev to Federer. It is like I am comparing myself to Steve Jobs. You see how ridiculous it is.

Federer won the 2004 US Open title about a month after he turned 22 years old. Zverev will be 22 years old in April and he has not won GS yet.

Please just stop promoting the Zverev greatness nonsense.
 
I recently see this thread and being a superfan of zverev and federer heres what i think about "failure" of sascha in gs: my opinión is that firts his mentally is bad for gs, he in much of the time thinks that the rival is a 2.5 level and the rival wins 1 set and he acts like no he beat me im the worts in the world, so he needs To learn that sometimes in gs the rivals has his moments no think that he be always bad. Most of his losses are because the inconsistensy of his forehand, in One sets shine but in the others two is really bad is other thing that i see is improving. The other bad thing is his placement he plays too much parte points, he needs To try of be more agressive try To make the rival think i can do anything, he only makes me run and run. Is he do thats he can win a gs. This is a opinión of a fanboy that have a wallpaper of him, try To emulate his serve and backhand and bougth the new apparel of adidas for birthday.
 
If he serves like at Hopman cup very few will be able to live with him. He can always break you and, with an improved FH on its way, the only thing stopping him right now is a mental block. With Lendl by his side I feel it’s just a matter of time before he makes it. He could be just one big win away from doing sth big. I’d say QF is a good bet with SF possible.
 
borna coric said:
Your comparison is severely flawed. ATP 1000/500/250 events are best 2/3 while GS events are best 3/5. As I've said before, GS events are completely different mind sets. GS events are two weeks long and everyone brings the A game to GS events to beat the top 4 seeded players In 2018 Zverev showed that not only he could NOT beat players at GS events who were seeded lower than he was but he lost to them BAD.

And please do not compare Zverev to Federer. It is like I am comparing myself to Steve Jobs. You see how ridiculous it is.

Federer won the 2004 US Open title about a month after he turned 22 years old. Zverev will be 22 years old in April and he has not won GS yet.

Please just stop promoting the Zverev greatness nonsense.
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Grand Slams give overal advantage to the better players, Zverev has proven 100% that he is better than the field + he is not mentaly weak. These are all signs that he would overcome that slump eventually. All the signs are showing it, Nadal said it, Federer said it .... but NO, you know better. I am not sure what are you trying to say, that Zverev cant beat lower ranked players because of the pressure of being the favorite?! There is zero logic in that when he is top 4 for two years already.

At the Us Open 2004 Federer was 23! At the age of 20,21(2017-2018) Zverev had better results/ranking that Roger(2001-2002) + in that period Alexander had the Big 4 at the very top which makes it a lot harder to win big tittles which he did 4 times already. Back in 2001-2002 Roger had basically Agassi, out of form Sampras and a pretty open field of youngsters who didnt had experience/ATG career over him.

I am not promoting anyone greatness and I am just sharing information, patterns. The last players to be that good at such an early age - Del Potro, Djokovic, Murray, Nadal, Hewitt, Roddick, Ferrero, Coria ... Its not a bad company at all
 
Alekok1221 said:
I recently see this thread and being a superfan of zverev and federer heres what i think about "failure" of sascha in gs: my opinión is that firts his mentally is bad for gs, he in much of the time thinks that the rival is a 2.5 level and the rival wins 1 set and he acts like no he beat me im the worts in the world, so he needs To learn that sometimes in gs the rivals has his moments no think that he be always bad. Most of his losses are because the inconsistensy of his forehand, in One sets shine but in the others two is really bad is other thing that i see is improving. The other bad thing is his placement he plays too much parte points, he needs To try of be more agressive try To make the rival think i can do anything, he only makes me run and run. Is he do thats he can win a gs. This is a opinión of a fanboy that have a wallpaper of him, try To emulate his serve and backhand and bougth the new apparel of adidas for birthday.
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Post RG 17, most of his losses are because of mental block. He listen what people are saying "that he is not good enough in Slams" and even if he know/feels that this is not the case, part of him probably still says "but ... what if I am really not good enough " and his hands crumble, tighten. He lost to Raonic from 2-1 up, Coric 1-0 up, Chung 2-1 up, Thiem 0-3, Kohlschreiber 1-0 up
 
Does Z have an ankle issue or not? That would be a shame. He's getting to the point (almost 22) when his age is not a valid excuse for not making semis and finals in slams anymore. It's 1 thing not to win them (like let's say early Lendl or Murray or even Agassi) and quite another to never even reach the latest stages in slams (more like Davydenko). The problem is that the longer that situation persists, the harder it gets to overcome the hurdle and go against his reputation and the more pressure he's bound to feel. It's a vicious circle. I hope he will win that battle, whatever it takes. The only thing that separates Z from a spot in the top 2 and tennis greatness right now is cracking the slams. So close, yet in a way so far. And we need a challenge to the old guard. We really need it. ASAP.
 
Bukmeikara said:
Grand Slams give overall advantage to the better players, Zverev has proven 100% that he is better than the field + he is not mentaly weak. These are all signs that he would overcome that slump eventually. All the signs are showing it, Nadal said it, Federer said it .... but NO, you know better. I am not sure what are you trying to say, that Zverev cant beat lower ranked players because of the pressure of being the favorite?! There is zero logic in that when he is top 4 for two years already.

At the Us Open 2004 Federer was 23! At the age of 20,21(2017-2018) Zverev had better results/ranking that Roger(2001-2002) + in that period Alexander had the Big 4 at the very top which makes it a lot harder to win big tittles which he did 4 times already. Back in 2001-2002 Roger had basically Agassi, out of form Sampras and a pretty open field of youngsters who didnt had experience/ATG career over him.

I am not promoting anyone greatness and I am just sharing information, patterns. The last players to be that good at such an early age - Del Potro, Djokovic, Murray, Nadal, Hewitt, Roddick, Ferrero, Coria ... Its not a bad company at all
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How can you claim that Zverev is 100% better than the field when he results showed otherwise at GS events?

Have you heard of Michelle Kwan in figure skating? She was probably the best skater between 1997 and 2003 but I don't think anyone would remember her because she FAILED to win gold Olympic medals in Japan and Salt Lake City in 1998 and 2002. She was the HEAVY favorite coming in. She did OK but it just happened that Tara Lipinski and Sara Hughes had the night of their lives and took the gold medal from Michelle Kwan. Kwan never recovered from that and just quietly retired.

Same thing goes with Caroline Woz. Prior to winning the AO 2018, she is a very talented player, much more accomplished than Zverev but NO ONE CARE.... If you do not win GS, you're just another face on the ATP tours.

Zverev can be the best player in 44 weeks of the year but in those 8 weeks of GS events, he seemed lost when he run in opponents who just happened to play the match of their lives in the best 3/5. Zverev FAILED in spetacular fashion when the light shined on him at tennis biggest stage and instead of riding to the occasion, he folded like a cheap suit. May be Zverev will go down in tennis history as "one of the greatest tennis player never to win a major". That title belong is currently being held by Colin Montgomerie in golf. Perhaps Zverev will belong to that club one day.


Bukmeikara said:
Post RG 17, most of his losses are because of mental block. He listen what people are saying "that he is not good enough in Slams" and even if he know/feels that this is not the case, part of him probably still says "but ... what if I am really not good enough " and his hands crumble, tighten. He lost to Raonic from 2-1 up, Coric 1-0 up, Chung 2-1 up, Thiem 0-3, Kohlschreiber 1-0 up
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WTF!!! He listens to people that he is not good in slams but good enough to win ATP 1000 events. Do you see how stupid your logic sound?

At the end of the day, Zverev still lost, that's what matter. He is almost 22 years old, if he still has mental block by now, he is not going to win GS. Ain't gonna to happen.


I have nothing against Zverev and got to see him in person @CitiOpen and Rogers Cup but I can't stand people promoting a guy who failed to live up at GS events for the past few years.
 
borna coric said:
At the end of the day, Zverev still lost, that's what matter. He is almost 22 years old, if he still has mental block by now, he is not going to win GS. Ain't gonna to happen.


I have nothing against Zverev and got to see him in person @CitiOpen and Rogers Cup but I can't stand people promoting a guy who failed to live up at GS events for the past few years.
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I am the one in the wrong here. I try to reason with a person who cant be reason with so that I can feel cool and right ... Fairwell my friend
 
So Sascha's final result at AO 2019 is 4R. For the third consecutive time, he failed to achieve the 2nd QF on GS tournaments.
 
Bukmeikara said:
Grand Slams give overall advantage to the better players, Zverev has proven 100% that he is better than the field + he is not mentaly weak. These are all signs that he would overcome that slump eventually. All the signs are showing it, Nadal said it, Federer said it .... but NO, you know better. I am not sure what are you trying to say, that Zverev cant beat lower ranked players because of the pressure of being the favorite?! There is zero logic in that when he is top 4 for two years already.

At the Us Open 2004 Federer was 23! At the age of 20,21(2017-2018) Zverev had better results/ranking that Roger(2001-2002) + in that period Alexander had the Big 4 at the very top which makes it a lot harder to win big tittles which he did 4 times already. Back in 2001-2002 Roger had basically Agassi, out of form Sampras and a pretty open field of youngsters who didnt had experience/ATG career over him.

I am not promoting anyone greatness and I am just sharing information, patterns. The last players to be that good at such an early age - Del Potro, Djokovic, Murray, Nadal, Hewitt, Roddick, Ferrero, Coria ... Its not a bad company at all
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@Bukmeikara: What EXCUSES do you have for Zverev this time around? Zverev is so good that he got bounced in the 4th round of AO 2019 to a lesser rank player. According to to you, "Zverev has proven 100% that he is better than the field + he is not mentaly weak." I guess he just forgets to do it on the day the actual match is being played. Also according to you "These are all signs that he would overcome that slump eventually". When he is done with playing tennis?

From a personal level, I feel really bad for Zverev because, rightly or wrongly, the odd will not be in his favor at GS events and label as a "choker". As times goes on, it will put a toll on him and it will get harder and much harder to shed that label.

For the last time, please stop promoting all the Zverev's nonsense, until he actually wins a GS title.
 
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