What would you change in Roger's game to make him a clear GOAT provided he still has to have a single handed backhand...

zill

Hall of Fame
An obvious one is to give him an even better serve. Like a servebot serve. What else?
 
An obvious one is to give him an even better serve. Like a servebot serve. What else?
Build his upper body like 2017 and start clobbering the ball to generate pace on groundstrokes instead of relying on athleticism to do so like Peak @ForehandRF
Because he no longer possesses the peak athleticism and footwork, he must rely upon hand eye coordination and brute force to hit through the court like he did in 2017.
 

ForehandRF

Hall of Fame
Build his upper body like 2017 and start clobbering the ball to generate pace on groundstrokes instead of relying on athleticism to do so like Peak @ForehandRF
Because he no longer possesses the peak athleticism and footwork, he must rely upon hand eye coordination and brute force to hit through the court like he did in 2017.
Play the ball, not the opponent, and maybe....maybe :D This is what he needs to do in the first place.
 

GhostOfNKDM

Rookie
Better nerves on big occasions perhaps.

But thats ok. Our humanity and weaknesses make achievements that much more appreciable.

I wouldn't change much just for the sake of being unquestioned GOAT.

It's OK with me if he gets surpassed in the slam count. Records are broken. People remember how an athlete made them feel.
 

skaj

Hall of Fame
An obvious one is to give him an even better serve. Like a servebot serve. What else?
The obvious one is to give him a better backhand, because that is his weakness. Gasquet's or Henin's, Wawrinka's, Kuerten's...
His serve is fine.
 

MeatTornado

G.O.A.T.
His 1st serve, 2nd serve, forehand, slice, overheads, drop shots, volleys, half-volleys and 1st serve returns are all elite tier. And in his prime he was easily one of the best athletes on tour too, in his footwork, speed and stamina.

If we can't change his backhand then the only thing left to improve would be his 2nd serve returns. But one could easily argue that's not a technical issue, but a mental one. And a lot of people have already pointed that out in this thread.
 

Red Rick

Talk Tennis Guru
His 1st serve, 2nd serve, forehand, slice, overheads, drop shots, volleys, half-volleys and 1st serve returns are all elite tier. And in his prime he was easily one of the best athletes on tour too, in his footwork, speed and stamina.

If we can't change his backhand then the only thing left to improve would be his 2nd serve returns. But one could easily argue that's not a technical issue, but a mental one. And a lot of people have already pointed that out in this thread.
2nd serve return is a backhand issue.

a single handed issue.
 

MeatTornado

G.O.A.T.
2nd serve return is a backhand issue.

a single handed issue.
Kind of but not really. His slice is perfect but he botches returns even when just trying to chip back 2nd serves.

When he takes a full swing but it ends up floating weakly back to the service line, that's a single-handed issue.
 

metsman

G.O.A.T.
PETE's serve, duh.

The other thing would be to give him a bit more explosiveness on the dead run so he could play behind the baseline a bit more on clay.
 

skaj

Hall of Fame
His 1st serve, 2nd serve, forehand, slice, overheads, drop shots, volleys, half-volleys and 1st serve returns are all elite tier. And in his prime he was easily one of the best athletes on tour too, in his footwork, speed and stamina.

If we can't change his backhand then the only thing left to improve would be his 2nd serve returns. But one could easily argue that's not a technical issue, but a mental one. And a lot of people have already pointed that out in this thread.
If I understood correctly, you can change his backhand as long as you don't give him a double-hander. I agree about all the elite tier elements of the game you've mentioned, except for the speed - he was considerably fast, but not among the fastest.
 

mental midget

Hall of Fame
Build his upper body like 2017 and start clobbering the ball to generate pace on groundstrokes instead of relying on athleticism to do so like Peak @ForehandRF
Because he no longer possesses the peak athleticism and footwork, he must rely upon hand eye coordination and brute force to hit through the court like he did in 2017.
i don't know that he needs to get much stronger to do it, but i'm also kind of on this train about just nuking the ball more often. play almost like he's injured. probably a bad idea but would be fun to watch. same on serves, take the off season to up the mph's. would have a psychological impact at the very least.
 

tezukazone

New User
I'm mean better mental strength, he chokes more than perhaps any all time great. His backhand also starts to go in tough moments. ATP just posted federers match with monfils, was up 40-15 again with match points and of course he lost
 

socallefty

Hall of Fame
If he had Wawrinka’s topspin BH drive to go along with the Federer slice, he might have won a few more French Opens in his prime which might have cemented him as the undisputed GOAT. It might have helped him boss around Djokovic in the last decade and win 2-3 more hard court Slams also. If he had a Sampras second serve, he might have won more on hard courts also as he got older.
 
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