Discussion in 'Tennis Tips/Instruction' started by Brett, Mar 30, 2005.
I'm talking over-the-counter. Ibuprofin doesn't seem to help out that much.
icy-hot tiger balm, advil works best for me
What kind of pain? Are your muscles sore after working out? Vitamin b12 helps
Are your muscles sore? Do you stretch before and after workout and through the day?
I have sore muscles all the time; I'm naturally very tight. So I stretch it few times a day, plus receive massage, sometime ultrasound. If it's chronic, I don't think it's a good idea to load your body on a constant base with painkillers, IMHO.
Can you provide more info.
Have you ever seen the sidelines of a football game ?
The players are drinking and drinking fluids.
Have you tried drinking 10-12 glasses of fluids (not coffee, tea or alcohol)
a day. Try it and your muscular aches just might be a thing of the past.
Also, aspirin works better for some than IBpro.
Well I'm just sore after tennis practice everyday, and I don't want to be sore for my matches.
So you guys recommend Advil and Aspirin better than IBProfin?
Again, medicine is not the solution. You will be sick, if you take it frequently/abuse it. What it does, it covers the symptoms, IT DOESN'T TREAT THE PROBLEM.
Worm up before every game, run 3 min, in slow pace, then stretch. I start by holding my stretches 20 sec and progress to 30 sec. Stretch after the game. Massage - you can do it by you self. Bent you arm and use you elbow, and go trough tight muscles (especially if it legs).
There is plenty of advice on Internet, how to stretch any muscle, make a search online, there are plenty of pict. Swim might also help.
Chiropractic is a blessing, they can give you even more insight to your problem.
I'm talking from experience, I have extremely tight muscles (confirmed by many doctors), and I get sore very frequently.
If you still insist on using med, try both and see what works for you, many brands work differently for diff people.
i'm almost certain that advil and ibuprofen are the same thing??? ........ advil is just a brand name for one of the companies...... although i know some people have suggested advil specifically (don't know if there are differences in quality of ingredients).
not sure if alieve (sp?) ibuprofen??? , but just read the box and see if it says ibuprofen is the medicinal ingredient...
i didn't realize that extra strength is just double the dosage usually.... so 2 regular strength is often the same as 1 extra strength........ somehow, i thought it might be a different chemical compound.
Advil and Ibuprofen ARE the SAME thing.
Aspirin is different and is known to help with muscle aches. I do not know
If I am reading correctly from your rather short description, you are just
having mucle aches.
This is just accumulation of the lactic acid.
You could prevent this by getting into the shape.
If you recently increased your activity, your muscles are not strong enough,
and just by practicing your conditioning will improve.
What I just recently read from some athletes regular work out was 4 sets of
104 degrees whirlpool - 55 degrees whirlpool.
They claimed that this helps draining of the lactic acid.
i understand what you're saying..... but do you not think that andy roddick, lebron james, tom brady etc. get sore muscles after long, hard games???
you do go on to suggest some whirlpool stuff though.
i do notice that i get alot less back strain playing as i really started working my back muscles this winter... look up "roman chair" exercises on internet, have to be careful though and obviously need some access to a roman chair.
Sorry for responding so late.
Anyway, here it goes.
I am 39 y.o. now.
Six years ago I was playing 4 times per week 2 hours each time.
Then, I had an opportunity to play every day. 2 hours each time.
After a month of soreness, I ended up playing every day tennis, plus 3 times
a week table tennis (competitive, mind you, I am 2000 level player when in
Then, I started playing tennis twice a day.
Again after initial aching I was playing withouth the problem.
These days, I play 5 times a week, plus teach additional 10 hours a week.
Moral of the story? Soreness goes away with conditioning.
Top athletes do not get sore muscles unless hurt.
predrag, not sure if i agree..... but i don't feel strongly about it or have any proof to offer...
definitely, agree that conditioning helps soreness.......... but i would be shocked if andy roddick didn't take back relaxant medication (robaxiset sp??) or anti-inflammatories in between matches........ might not be the same thing, but i find it very hard to sleep after late night match, and it isn't all heightened brain activity.
Why would they take drugs? They recieve massage after every game, or what ever they need. They don't just go home/hotel after the game, I guess.
I would think that they are very carefull with the drugs, as a possible complication with doping control.
Heating something sore will make it feel good for the moment, then make it much worse. Ice your muscles its much better. Watch a 30 minute tv show taking the ice off for commercials. This is why you always see a baseball pitcher with ice on his arm after a game.
I have been taking IBProfin about every day. I know this is bad, I just hate being sore, ya know?
Have you just tried simple icy-hot, ben***?
Professional Athletes take anti-inflammatories all the time.
A friend of mine who is a sports agent once said to me that pro athletes take lots of anti-inflammatories - bextra, voixx, ibuprofin, aleve, etc.
Sure they are in great condition and the seek ice, massage, and other treatments too - but anti-inflammatories are a big component in their well being. Roger Clemens said publically (recently) that a big factor in his decision to play this year or retire was based on whether Vioxx was to remain on the market or not. Vioxx is critical to his ability to recover between starts.
Basketball stars - Sean Elliott and Alonzo Mourning both had kidney replacements - I have heard (and it may also be publically documented) that they attribute there kidney illness to the high amounts of anti-inflammatories they have taken during their careers.
The more exposure I have had to sports trainers and orthopedists the more I realize anti-inflammatories and ice treatments are a regular part of the training regimen - it is not reserved only for injuries.
vioxx worked for me, but very expensive
IB isn't bad but don't go overboard. but dirt cheap.
what is alieve??? is it asprin or tylenol with a fancy name?
robaxacett are good too, but somewhat expensive.
mourning/elliott - was that from ibuprofen or higher level antiinflammatories?? i know you have to be careful... shaq watches his anti-inflammatory consumption closely.
Two things that help me with muscle pain after a match or workout.
Hydrolyte in my drink before, during, and after I play tennis or workout. Replaces the electrolytes in my body and muscle soreness is reduced or eliminated.
You can check it out at http://www.gookinaid.com/
Sometimes on real tough days, I will take Ibuprophin.
Hey BB, very good suggestion on the Hydrolyte, also some people may need to dilute it more than recommended if they are "glycemic" sensitive. Also, BB, I wanted to ask your opinion on icing afterward and did it ever work well for you.
Aleve is a brand name for naproxyn sodium which is a NSAID (non steroidal anti inflammatory drug) like ibuprofen, vioxx, celebrex et al.
a good warm shower , massage , warm tub bath?
i would not go too far taking meds unless it is really that bad.i wont take it regularly too.
Mourning/Elliott - I believe it was from prescription anti-inflammatories. Btw, a physical therapist once told me that 2 Aleve taken 3 times a day will put you in territory of Vioxx. I am not a doctor - I don't know if that is true - but I imagine there is a risk trade off by taking 6 over-the-counter Aleves a day, which is 3x recommended dosage on the bottle.
Acedominphin (sp?) It's the generic name for tylenol, which is (what my athletic trainer says is) best for muscle pain. For swelling - go for advil Ibprofin if you will.
Lots of water.
Keeping in shape, that's the main thing.
3 words... Bengay
It's not medicine, but
I've shared this awesome supplement a couple of times on here and no one has even asked a question about it. I find that pretty amazing with the number of players with sore muscles and sore elbows in tennis. (Of course you can always continue to battle your pain your own way)
blows asprin and such away in the big picture! It won't stop the pain in an hour, but you can be ready to PLAY again in 3-4 days from a bad case of tennis elbow and really sore muscles can be avoided all together by taking this after your matches.
By the way, I use this stuff, but am not their salesman or marketer and it is not MLM, if anyone cares about that. I personally wouldn't care about either if the stuff works like it does.
By the way, VITALZYM is safe and all natural, mostly plant extracts of systemic enzymes. (these are different from digestive enzymes)
Spoken by someone without chronic pain! I broke my back when I was in my 20's. I am now in my late 40's. Trust me, the pain does not get better. It can be controlled to a degree, but never goes away. I am not a candidate for surgery and hope never to be one. I have ever since kept in really good shape, do core strengthening every day, stretching (yoga) every day, play tennis, ride bikes, hike, etc., etc. I go to a massage therapist regularly. I ALSO take Advil - although I try to limit this use because of the things it can do to your stomach, etc. However, sometimes it is just necessary. I take 3 regular advil when it is bad in the morning and that is it for the day. It usually helps a lot. Sometimes, that is what it takes to keep going and doing all the things I want to do.
That is not true. Ibuprofen is an anti-inflammatory.
try a steam room
Vitalzym is an anti-inflamatory and helps in the recovery process greatly.
bengay always works
like I said, 3 words.
My methods for aching muscles
Conditioning through aerobics, weights and stretching: jump rope, lunges, interval sprints are must. Hyperextension or good mornings are good for lower back strengthening.
Running and Dynamic stretch before match
Static stretch after match
Warm shower or tub after match
If really necessary, ibuprofen or aleve before match. Tylenol and aspirin are milder anti-inflammatory.
yeah bengay is cash
OP, if it's just muscle soreness, ignore it. Suck it up!! Once you get back out there and start playing, loosening the muscles/joints up, the pain will go away...As for anyone who lifts weights, don't take NSAIDs afterwards - they inhibit prostaglandins, which are part of the inflammation process, and necessary for protein synthesis. No protein synthesis, no muscle growth - you've just wasted your time and energy in the gym.
crack seems to do the trick for a lot of people. j/k
I take IBprofen(sp) and do stretches...
Stretch then swim afterwards.
China Gel. Like bengay, but much more effective.
I thought Ibuprofen is a painkiller while Diclofenac is an anti-inflammatory.
fake bengay, look up the e bay userid before you buy.
yea bengay is boss
Good ones. Bio-freeze is also excellent.
Andreas,,,,,,Ibuprofen and Diclofenac are both anti-inflammatories,, Diclofenac is a bit stronger. they work well but you can't take them forever, you can develop complications like stomach ulcers or high blood pressure.
If it is just a minor muscle pain, then a sportscream may do you some good.
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