What's the worst mistake you've made while stringing?

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  1. CosmosMpower

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    You’re not the only one, I dropped one off my machine and stabbed the top of my foot as well. It bled for quite a while for such a small puncture
     
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  2. Imago

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    This is nothing. One night I hit the steel stand with my bear foot and the nail of my big toe fell apart. Took it 18 months to grow up. ;-)
     
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    I've done that with the aero vs and a couple other 16x20 frames. That really is the worst. You're done and you have to start over.
     
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    Also rackets with 4 double holes down there when you have to cross over at the penultimate cross and then target it with the idea that it is the last cross when weaving the opposite first cross. :)
     
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  6. Irvin

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    I would never miscalculate the crosses when stringing an ATW pattern. I always string odd crosses in the same direction and even crosses in the opposite direction with 1 exception. The bottom cross, if its odd, is backwards and I never cross on a odd numbered cross. If you prefer to weave crosses starting over or under an odd or even main just do it. Takes all the confusion out of it. LOL
     
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  7. Cobra Tennis

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    From a consumer side of things, I wouldn't give that stringer my business anymore if he charged me twice for his mistake.

    As a stringer for profit, if I made the mistake, I fix it.

    Vote with your dollars.
     
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  8. norcal

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    I've blamed my dog for ball mishaps, but blaming my dog for stringing mistakes? You are one heartless SOB.

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  9. Steve Huff

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    I'm a "cat" person. Sorry
     
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    Some of my most embarrassing mistakes:

    • Misweave (obviously)
    • Miscalculate cross length
    • Pulled too tight on knot and the string broke
    • Accidentally knocked loose a clamp on the mains and lost all tension - had to start over
     
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  11. Rabbit

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    A cat person? And I liked you...... :(
     
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  12. Irvin

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    I could have made a big mistake this morning stringing a ProStaff 97 and a ProStaff 97S. I was stringing them with Black Code mains and Sensation crosses. The poly comes from a set where multi if off a reel. I picked up the 97 first and measured out 4 racket lengths plus 6" for the short side of the racket when I was done what I cut off the long side I used for the 97S. I wonder how many stringers would have cut the poly string in half? A set of Black Code is ~39' I think. If I used 18.5" for the 16M (PS97) racket I would be OK but not for the 18M PS97S.
     
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  13. MAX PLY

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    ^^^lucky for the racquet owner, you got it right! ;)
     
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    ^^^could've been a 2X charge!!!!!
     
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  15. Irvin

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    Why it was my string? Lucky for me or I would have ended up with two half sets of string just about and that's no big deal either.
     
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  16. MAX PLY

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    ^^^I think you just made it funnier.
     
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    ^^^Good but I don't know how. LOL
     
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    :D
     
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  19. Steve Huff

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    If you tie a loose knot, you just might lose the entire string job.
     
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  20. Rabbit

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    Made my day, thank you very much. :)
     
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    This has been a strange thread to me. I understand the "same as last time" is very vague. I would have called the customer and asked, especially considering the cost of the strings he was installing. If i decided to go with what I thought, and was wrong, I would have to fix it at my cost. maybe irvin has more business that he needs or wants but I think his policy is a bit harsh. As a pro stringer (I am not) I would think he would inspect the racket and grommets closely before stringing regardless of who is supplying strings. If I were going to have his policy I don't think I would string anything unless I supplied the string. I could appreciate that policy a little more.
     
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    I have strung hundreds of rackets for clients that bring there own string and except for a few string that broke while pulling tension that I don't think was any fault of mine. Yet my policy is harsh? If my clients felt the same they would not bring me their string. If it is ok with them why should you care? Never have I damaged a clients string due to my error. Never would I ever string a hybrid without knowing exactly what string goes in the mains and crosses and at what tension. I always tell my clients the record is on the tag on the racket.
     
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    I don't really care. the discussion went in that direction and I just wanted to add my thoughts like everyone else. You are correct your customers would not come back if they were not ok with your policy. It's your business and it seems you have a great one. However, I believe that if the situation the OP described did happen and it was your mistake I think not making good on it is harsh.
     
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  25. am1899

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    Amazing - that of all the hundreds, probably thousands of racquets you’ve strung, that such a thing has never happened.

    I can’t help but wonder though. How do you know something, so incontrovertibly (as you said, never) - that may not manifest itself until after the racquet has left your shop?
     
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  26. jim e

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    Once a racquet leaves the shop, no longer stringers concern, as who knows what happens to it.(my policy at least)
    Some players have a short fuse. One guy I string for, when I was hitting against him after he threw his racquet he kicked it into the fence. I'm sure if it broke, some here would have blamed the stringer.others I know keep the racquets in trunk of car winter or summer. Extreme temp are not good. Anything can happens once it leaves.
    I remember one time a long long time ago someone I strung all nat. gut for came back and complained that string broke in short amount of time. I apologized and restrung for no charge and later found out from another player that he picked up a stone and hit it, and that caused string to snap. So you see things like this happen, I remember that time even though it was many years back (1970's) . that incidence made me increase prices a little so overall I recouped loss plus more because of that.
    racquet leave shop its customers after that, I learned that a long time ago.
    I am very careful to closely check frames for fractures/ cracks, and if found either refuse to string, or let them know of breakage if I attempt to string it before anything is done.i even found a racquet cracked just above the handle before, and then need to check grommets, and anything else around frame as it all takes time, not just the stringing time.You add all that along with discussing string options and tensions for their style of play, no matter how fast stringer you are you just spend a good deal of time with one racquet.
     
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  27. am1899

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    @jim e I get the idea along the lines of, as a general rule, “once the racquet has left the shop, it’s a customer issue.” Because in the absence of that, there are customers who will take advantage, as you’ve eluded to. To be sure, I’m as careful as I can be. I just can’t comfortably say, incontrovertibly, that I’ve never caused damage to string while stringing a racquet.
     
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  28. jim e

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    am1899: you are correct, never is a word that should never be used like it is. Something could occur like a small split in a grommet that goes unseen until string places pressure against it and string snaps early, and its no ones fault, just something that can happen and could be never detected,as well as numerous other issues I'm sure that can occur, so I guess you are correct about "never".
    Also stringing places great stress on a racquet and possible to cause internal stress fractures in a racquet frame and later it breaks, its life and sh+t happens as they say . But it is only a racquet and nothing man made lasts forever.
    Its only a racquet and strings, as I am in health profession dealing with people, and a racquet is just that, its a racquet, and stringing one is about as low stress as you can get to do a service as far as I am concerned.
     
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    I think in your response you failed to consider that you are dealing with an omnipotent being capable of no fault, no error, no concession; a being so immense in knowledge that the words "wrong" or "mea culpa" are never uttered or even considered. @am1899, yes you are dealing with a perfect stringing machine. And a perfect stringing machine is never wrong or at fault. All it does is churn out perfection between the grommets......invent new and better patterns......utilize common household items mere mortals would never consider using as implements for stringing.....all in homespun manner so disarming that one is not aware that one is in the presence of the Perfect One.

    @am1899, take pause to consider, take pause to revere, take pause to admire....
     
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  30. Imago

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    If He is not capable of fault He is not omnipotent...
     
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    Just strung a racquet a couple days ago where I got to the last cross and tied off/clipped the string ... only to realize that I forgot to tension/clamp that last cross.

    If it were my own stick I'd have left it, but for a client I cut out the strings and re-did it.
     
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  32. Rabbit

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    @lmago , I see your point, but....

    if He is omnipotent, He would be smarter than that....
     
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  33. Rabbit

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    Did you supply the string or did the client? That is the crucial question here as to whose responsibility replacement of the strings belonged to....
     
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  34. norcal

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    I call that Improvisational Proportional Stringing (IPS) and charge the client extra.
     
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  35. gmatheis

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    i supplied the string and it was from a reel (Hyper-G) $7.50 mistake :(
     
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  36. Irvin

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    Faults are human and humans aren't omnipotent.
     
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  37. Rabbit

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    Then according to Him who taught us to string, yes you were responsible.

    So it is said, so it shall be
     
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    Side splits - this will be your starting position:

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    Side splits - this will be your ending position:
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  39. MAX PLY

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    I think this thread has finally jumped the shark.
     
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    I made a mistake today. I was going to string a racket with an ATW pattern and I measured out just enough to string with 1 piece 31' 6". It was a Steam 16x15 racket. I measured out the short side with enough string to string 8 mains instead of 7 and did not realize my error until I got to the 7th main on short side. I just strung all 8 mains on each side and used what I cut off the long side to string the crosses. I used a starting knot and had plenty of string to string the crosses and tie off without bridging. Since this was my string off a reel should I not charge the customer or what?
     
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  41. am1899

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    Gasp!

    If they hadn’t brought you that racquet, then you never would have made the mistake. So it’s the customer’s fault. Charge them double.
     
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  42. norcal

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    Even Irvin's 'mistake' post comes off as a brag post! [​IMG]
     
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  43. Irvin

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    Just lucky I guess, but the more I string the luckier I get.
     
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  44. Smittithekitty

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    cutting into tie off too close and nipping the string below it.... ugh...
     
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  45. Steve Huff

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    Personally, I don't think Irvin has that policy to be mean or anything. I think its to get people to use his string (which he states). Nothing wrong with that. When I string people's rackets (using my own string, I call full service), I replace the overgrip free, grips are cost rounded up to the nearest dollar, bumperguards are cost rounded up to the nearest dollar, and kids get approximately $5 knocked of the price of stringing. If a person brings their own string, they get the racket inspected frame cleaned before stringing, and labor for the stringing. If the string breaks while or after stringing, I don't warrant it. It could be some cheap fake bought on the bay, I don't know. It could be some string even bought reputably that I don't carry because I didn't like the performance of it (it broke too early or while tension was being pulled). I'm sure I have people abuse my policies. People sometimes, but rarely, bring in their racket and say that they are their kids' rackets, just to get a discount. Oh well.
     
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  46. Rabbit

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    @am1899, by George, I think you've got it!

    @Steve Huff, I do the same thing as you; I change out the over grip. I think @Irvin's policy is just part and parcel of who he is, for better or worse. I don't see it as my responsibility to "make" someone do anything. Either I want to string their racket or I don't. My big differ with him is in the after stringing part. If they bring their string and I agree to string the frame ($10), I will stand behind my work. This is, of course, what is considered reasonable. But 99% of the tennis world has been reasonable so far. :) So go along, get along as far as I'm concerned.
     
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