What's up with Fed's shoulder tilt in his 1hbh prep?

ByeByePoly

G.O.A.T.
Spacing is critical on the 1HBH. It might be the most critical element of learning to hit it really well.

As for the shoulder uncoiling it can happen in a limited fashion in the vertical plane as well as the horizontal plane.

When I teach someone a 1HBH for the first time, especially beginners, we usually don't use much torso or shoulder rotation. It's mostly a down - up motion sort of like swinging a pail of water. It's very simple, but quite effective and the directional control is outstanding. Then as we progress we "wind up" more of the body in preparation for the shot and naturally start to gain more power and spin.
No flat 1hbhs coming out of Kevo's class. (y)

"As for the shoulder uncoiling it can happen in a limited fashion in the vertical plane as well as the horizontal plane."

Not sure I follow here. ???
 

ext2hander

Rookie
Kolschreiber & Federer comparison might have some? Need better video on a hard one hand backhand drive.
Federer's backswing starts later, and does not go further back than his initial body position. The other player takes racquet well behind his initial back position. Yet they contact the ball at the same time. Perhaps this is because Federer is stepping forward into the ball in this example. Good question is whether he nearly always does this, something to note and keep in mind (STEP FORWARD, with less backswing)
 

Kevo

Legend
No flat 1hbhs coming out of Kevo's class. (y)

"As for the shoulder uncoiling it can happen in a limited fashion in the vertical plane as well as the horizontal plane."

Not sure I follow here. ???
Turn sideways and then imagine swinging a pail of water instead of your racquet. The weight of the pail will pull your shoulder down a bit as you pull it back, then when swinging it forward you will pull your shoulder up as you try to lift it. That is the basic mechanic of the limited 1HBH I was talking about earlier.
 

ByeByePoly

G.O.A.T.
Turn sideways and then imagine swinging a pail of water instead of your racquet. The weight of the pail will pull your shoulder down a bit as you pull it back, then when swinging it forward you will pull your shoulder up as you try to lift it. That is the basic mechanic of the limited 1HBH I was talking about earlier.
Ah ... got it ... rotation plus pail. (y) That's why the shoulders tilt up in follow through ... easier pail lifting.
 

Hmgraphite1

Hall of Fame
Turn sideways and then imagine swinging a pail of water instead of your racquet. The weight of the pail will pull your shoulder down a bit as you pull it back, then when swinging it forward you will pull your shoulder up as you try to lift it. That is the basic mechanic of the limited 1HBH I was talking about earlier.
That's good for limited, but what's beyond the pail?
 
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