What's your post-match feelings?

DjokoLand

Hall of Fame
Easy, everybody saying Carlos had no weakness while comparing him to the big 3. The big 3 in their prime had to do back to back 4/5 hour matches against themselves and Murray yet a 20 year old is cooked after 2 hours.

Nadal and Djokovic at 36 are fitter than anyone under 25 and lucky for Carlos he is better than the rest of the mugs these days he would win nothing years ago
 

Holmes

Hall of Fame
Having a big serve would have helped buckets, but unfortunately he happened to be playing the men's GOAT and would have likely lost regardless.

Anyway to answer the thread, most of us living outside the Carlos hype were certain of a Nole win so it isn't really a surprise.
 

beltsman

G.O.A.T.
I think Alcaraz deserves criticism for the first set but he did win the second. Although his level was very poor today. Djokovic was the better player in both the sets.
Big ups to Djokovic, the big match player turns up again.

Djokovic played a very smart match and was clinical in his anticipation. He read Alcaraz like a book. He also served very well. Nothing more to say really.

Alcaraz...yikes. too predictable. No point construction. Tried to rely on acrobatics and paid the price. His serve and return both sucked. Only his physical talent bailed him out, but he drew too much from that well. Him and his team have a lot of work to craft his game into an efficient machine.

And obviously something is wrong with his fitness.
 

Lleytonstation

Talk Tennis Guru
I think Alcaraz deserves criticism for the first set but he did win the second. Although his level was very poor today. Djokovic was the better player in both the sets.
Big ups to Djokovic, the big match player turns up again.
Makes me think 172 needs younger competition to push him. Otherwise he won't have much to overcome.
 

CoolCoolCool

Hall of Fame
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heavyD

Professional
Disappointed as I feel it could have been an epic 5 set match had Alcaraz been better prepared to play in the heat. He and his handlers need to be better as you never want to squander grand slam opportunities due to something like cramps.
 

Checkmate

Legend
It's really bad for the sport. It works only for Nolefam like capitalism only works for the super rich now.
Tennis needs young blood. We needed non big 3 winning 2 of the last 3 slams. Nothing about Djokovic but more about new faces.

Agreed. We needed Alcaraz to come triumphant in 4 well fought sets.
 

NeutralFan

G.O.A.T.
I think Alcaraz deserves criticism for the first set but he did win the second. Although his level was very poor today. Djokovic was the better player in both the sets.
Big ups to Djokovic, the big match player turns up again.

Umm no, Djokovic was not better player in both sets. In second set Alcaraz had millions of bps in different games. Third and 4 sets were beyond horrible
 

robthai

Hall of Fame
Easy, everybody saying Carlos had no weakness while comparing him to the big 3. The big 3 in their prime had to do back to back 4/5 hour matches against themselves and Murray yet a 20 year old is cooked after 2 hours.

Nadal and Djokovic at 36 are fitter than anyone under 25 and lucky for Carlos he is better than the rest of the mugs these days he would win nothing years ago
When Djokovic was 22 he retired against freaking Roddick because he had heatstroke.
 

ElChivoEspañol

Hall of Fame
I hope people cool it with the big 3 comparisons.

A supposed future GOAT in his physical prime has no business losing to an almost 37 yr old in a slam semifinal.

People have severe amnesia or easily susceptible to propaganda when they drink the Alcaraz being better than the big 3 koola-aid.

It’s beyond laughable.
 
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Thundergod

Hall of Fame
Terrible if they never face each other again. It would be the worst if Alcaraz goes on to win 10+ slams and this is the only slam match we have of him vs a Big 3, never properly dethroning anyone.
 

TheFifthSet

Legend
My thoughts are that I really, really should’ve bet on Djokovic (looked to be a good value bet even before the cramps) given those odds and am upset I didn’t.

Happy he won, but it’s bittersweet.

Realized just now that those who missed the match and glanced at the score after it was completed are probably in a state of shock, not knowing how influential the cramps were.
 

StrongRule

Talk Tennis Guru
I hope people cool it with the big 3 comparisons.

A supposed future GOAT in his physical prime has no business losing to an almost 37 yr old in a slam semifinal.

People have severe amnesia or easily susceptible to propaganda when they drink the Alcaraz being better than the big 3.

It’s beyond laughable.
Don't even hope for it. Some people just never learn.
 
Agreed. We needed Alcaraz to come triumphant in a 4 well fought sets.

Unfortunately Nolefam will read this as hating.
I feel that those of us who experienced two or more generation cycles and all the great stuff that comes with that, and didn't start watching in 2011, know better.
 

Checkmate

Legend
Umm no, Djokovic was not better player in both sets. In second set Alcaraz had millions of bps in different games. Third and 4 sets were beyond horrible

I am probably seeing from the perspective of how Djoker fought back mentally. I think second set was 49-51 Alcaraz.
 
I hope people cool it with the big 3 comparisons.

A supposed future GOAT in his physical prime has no business losing to an almost 37 yr old in a slam semifinal.

People have severe amnesia or easily susceptible to propaganda when they drink the Alcaraz being better than the big 3.

It’s beyond laughable.

Almost 37, you say? He is in fact 40!

He actually turned 36 less than three weeks ago!
 

robthai

Hall of Fame
Having a big serve would have helped buckets, but unfortunately he happened to be playing the men's GOAT and would have likely lost regardless.

Anyway to answer the thread, most of us living outside the Carlos hype were certain of a Nole win so it isn't really a surprise.
were you watching the same match? Djokovic was gradually getting outmuscled until the cramps started.
 

tudwell

G.O.A.T.
Disappointed, and frustrated. The changing of the guard is postponed another year or three. (I mean an Alcaraz win here wouldn’t have truly been a changing of the guard in the first place – Novak would still have his strongholds in Australia and SW19, but it would have been a nice start.)
 

NeutralFan

G.O.A.T.
I am probably seeing from the perspective of how Djoker fought back mentally. I think second set was 49-51 Alcaraz.

Mentally yes?but Second set was pretty one sided if Alcaraz didn't choke too many bps. I am sorry but you would have seen a different match. In second set Alcaraz was all over on Djokovic serve and had momentum going in the third.
 

Checkmate

Legend
Mentally yes?but Second set was pretty one sided if Alcaraz didn't choke too many bps. I am sorry but you would have seen a different match. In second set Alcaraz was all over Djokovic serve and had momentum going in the third.

He was about to lose it at 5-5 BP Djokovic had Djoker not choked on a routine BH. Am I right?
 

Rattie

Legend
I hope people cool it with the big 3 comparisons.

A supposed future GOAT in his physical prime has no business losing to an almost 37 yr old in a slam semifinal.

People have severe amnesia or easily susceptible to propaganda when they drink the Alcaraz being better than the big 3.

It’s beyond laughable.
He’s not almost 37, he just turned 36, so maybe try not to gild the lily.
Djokovic won because Carlos had a physical issue, not because he was the better player. Those are the facts, like it or not.
We have not seen the match today that we needed to, simple really.
 

nolefam_2024

Bionic Poster
I think Alcaraz deserves criticism for the first set but he did win the second. Although his level was very poor today. Djokovic was the better player in both the sets.
Big ups to Djokovic, the big match player turns up again.
My feelings are of vindication. Djokovic will probably play till 40, win 3/4 slams more and Raz and Rune time will come within 2 years. All the beliefs are proven.

While those who tried to discourage nolefams saying he is too old had to eat their own words. Pure vindication.
 
Semantics is all you have left, bud.

A geriatric Djokovic served double breadsticks to your supposed messiah.

Yes, I have been on record repeatedly hailing Carlos Alcaraz as the Second Coming. That's why I posted earlier this week that he should retire from the sport altogether if he couldn't even beat a washed-up old fogey who'd probably need a Zimmer just to get onto the court. Given that he lost pretty easily in the end, I'm not sure retirement suffices. He should probably have to sit in the stocks and get pelted with rancid tomatoes first.

Pointing out that someone isn't "almost" at their next birthday three weeks after their previous one is not what I'd call "semantics".
 

ND-13

Legend
Alcaraz and his team need to reflect a lot :

1. This is not how you peak for a major
2. Cramps when barely 2 sets done. Really ? Nadal and Djokovic went for 6 hours .
3. You cannot afford to have such a slow start
4. So many wasted opportunities to close second set and so much mental and physical energy lost after leading 5-3 in second

Credit to Novak , for playing the waiting game. Rafa took a set even when cramping against Stan. Alcaraz barely got a game .
 

Hitman

Bionic Poster
The first two sets were God tier as far as quality was concerned. Very sad to see Alcaraz injured, he was looking the better player heading into the third set, 1-1 was a very fair scoreline. They were neck and neck. Last two sets were seriously deflated.

But, Djokovic won in the end, and Earth's citizens can sleep well at least one more night, and that is what ultimately matters.
 
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