What's your post-match feelings?

gqnelly

Rookie
The first two sets were God tier as far as quality was concerned. Very sad to see Alcaraz injured, he was looking the better player heading into the third set, 1-1 was a very fair scoreline. They were neck and neck. Last two sets were seriously deflated.

But, Djokovic won in the end, and Earth's citizens can sleep well at least one more night, and that is what ultimately matters.
A case of the cramps is a result of fluid/mineral loss and overexertion. It isnt an injury. Its like saying that someone who is tired is injured. You cant take a medical timeout for being tired. You cant take a medical timeout for cramps.
 

GhostOfNKDM

Hall of Fame
Even old man Fed gave stiffer competition to Novak.

Alcaraz hasn't beaten the Big 2 in BO5 and until they retire, he's going to remain 2nd tier at the slams.

It's impressive what he's done so far but that's also partly because the rest of the tour pretty much makes him look like a GOAT candidate at this point.
 

jimjam

Professional
I think Alcaraz deserves criticism for the first set but he did win the second. Although his level was very poor today. Djokovic was the better player in both the sets.
Big ups to Djokovic, the big match player turns up again.

Djokovic was definitely the 2nd best player in the 2nd set. The stats and result both indicate as much.
 

Phenomenal

Hall of Fame
Alcaraz was extremely nervous through the first set. Idk how he prepared for this match with his coaches but Alcaraz seemed to me extremely confident(way too much) i could be wrong idk but he was like %100 confident he should win the match or he can't lose the match. Yes all big 3 specially Djokovic and Federer are confident just personally didn't like it this kind of confident at such age.

While Alcaraz played bad, was error prone Djokovic still gave him many chances in the second which he normally doesn't. Alcaraz's behaviour his celebs, looks i just didn't like his mentality this match. In the end it's one match everybody can have bad days. But i think Alcaraz got his lesson today. I wonder if his coaching team was this overconfident too?

Yes many people pick him favourite as i but if you don't concentrate or focus fully you can't win the match. Djokovic wants as much as Alcaraz but we saw how relax but full focused he is in this match like Nadal. Not sure about Alcaraz this match..

Djokovic served incredibly well and really played tacticaly good with some good volleys in first.

Still i was not convinced about Djokovic's level through the match as well as his fitness if he down 2-1 but he is specially lucky for final now that he didn't played longer match. I thought Alcaraz who did error after error, due to his talent and Djokovic's bad form and some mistakes still tied the match. I thought he could still win the match(had he been fit). When Djokovic keeps the ball in play 2-3 more shots Alcaraz seems annoyed or somehow didn't expect this.
 
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Phenomenal

Hall of Fame
Today specially first set we saw the experience of Djokovic. Experience won. Djokovic tactically played good. In second set Djokovic give him many easy points shortly i just didn't like Alcaraz's court behaviour.

Djokovic has lapses he is not playing like anything close to unbeatable actually the opposite. But since he is Djokovic he will be favourite in the final.
 

fedfan24

Hall of Fame
Djokovic to win his 3rd rg in 3 easy sets against a mug like Ruud and we get to enjoy his moronic fanatics laud him as the next coming of jesus
 

nolefam_2024

Bionic Poster
Alcaraz was extremely nervous through the first set. Idk how he prepared for this match with his coaches but Alcaraz seemed to me extremely confident(way too much) i could be wrong idk but he was like %100 confident he should win the match or he can't lose the match. Yes all big 3 specially Djokovic and Federer are confident just personally didn't like it this kind of confident at such age.

While Alcaraz played bad, was error prone Djokovic still gave him many chances in the second which he normally doesn't. Alcaraz's behaviour his celebs, looks i just didn't like his mentality this match. In the end it's one match everybody can have bad days. But i think Alcaraz got his lesson today. I wonder if his coaching team was this overconfident too?

Yes many people pick him favourite as i but if you don't concentrate or focus fully you can't win the match. Djokovic wants as much as Alcaraz but we saw how relax but full focused he is in this match like Nadal. Not sure about Alcaraz this match..

Djokovic served incredibly well and really played tacticaly good with some good volleys in first.

Still i was not convinced about Djokovic's level through the match as well as his fitness if he down 2-1 but he is specially lucky for final now that he didn't played longer match. I thought Alcaraz who did error after error, due to his talent and Djokovic's bad form and some mistakes still tied the match. I thought he could still win the match(had he been fit). When Djokovic keeps the ball in play 2-3 more shots Alcaraz seems annoyed or somehow didn't expect this.
Thank you. He was overconfident knowing big 3 era is ending. But he has to wait for 1/2 more years
 

HashDump

Semi-Pro
Today specially first set we saw the experience of Djokovic. Experience won. Djokovic tactically played good. In second set Djokovic give him many easy points shortly i just didn't like Alcaraz's court behaviour.

Djokovic has lapses he is not playing like anything close to unbeatable actually the opposite. But since he is Djokovic he will be favourite in the final.
Agree 100%.
 
My thoughts are that I really, really should’ve bet on Djokovic (looked to be a good value bet even before the cramps) given those odds and am upset I didn’t.

Happy he won, but it’s bittersweet.


Realized just now that those who missed the match and glanced at the score after it was completed are probably in a state of shock, not knowing how influential the cramps were.
How I feel about not jumping on the Lakers to WCF post deadline trade.

It sounds like the biggest damper on Alcaraz's hype as long term ATG should simply be the physical conditioning aspect, he's had a worrying amount of issues in that department so far for someone of his age.
 

Ray Mercer

Hall of Fame
What you're saying about teams and support and analytics is bang on, but it helps older players FAR more, especially ones that have accomplished as much as Federer, Nadal and Djokovic. Not only do they have decades of experience on what works and doesn't work for them, but given how much money they have they can pour infinitely more into all those things you mention to keep them at the top. There are old guys in sports now with their own hyperbaric chambers. The 16 year age gap means infinitely less than it ever has.

At 36 your explosiveness and athleticism are not nearly what they are in your 20’s. An NFL running back is completely washed at that age. Carlos cruised through the whole tournament and absolutely collapsed in the only match anyone cared about. Good for Djokovic but that was sad by Carlos and a huge blow to the sport.
 
At 36 your explosiveness and athleticism are not nearly what they are in your 20’s. An NFL running back is completely washed at that age. Carlos cruised through the whole tournament and absolutely collapsed in the only match anyone cared about. Good for Djokovic but that was sad by Carlos and a huge blow to the sport.
NFL running backs are washed generally because they take too many hits but like any other athlete in any other sport the elite examples can stay relevant to their mid-30s and beyond.
 

nolefam_2024

Bionic Poster
At 36 your explosiveness and athleticism are not nearly what they are in your 20’s. An NFL running back is completely washed at that age. Carlos cruised through the whole tournament and absolutely collapsed in the only match anyone cared about. Good for Djokovic but that was sad by Carlos and a huge blow to the sport.
I hope this sport keeps taking such blows as long as Novak is playing. And it will.

Fed reaching final was amazing. Novak reaching final is blow. Total propaganda.
 

Halba

Hall of Fame
I think Alcaraz deserves criticism for the first set but he did win the second. Although his level was very poor today. Djokovic was the better player in both the sets.
Big ups to Djokovic, the big match player turns up again.
He's a bang average player and lucky to win a major title.
 

JasonZ

Hall of Fame
I think Alcaraz deserves criticism for the first set but he did win the second. Although his level was very poor today. Djokovic was the better player in both the sets.
Big ups to Djokovic, the big match player turns up again.

djokovic was NOT better in the second set, and alcaraz didnt play poor.
 
From the moment Carlitos came out he seemed nervous and tight, and his drop shots weren’t working against Djokovic yet he kept on and on repeating them. And other frequent errors. I only saw the first two sets as I had to leave. My feelings are disappointment in Alcaraz and a lot of respect for Djokovic, who came out focused like a laser and played great, I thought. I will say, though, that I didn’t buy into the hype that Alcaraz was sure to win…..no I knew it wouldn’t be that easy. I’m sorry he cramped but, why isn’t he in better condition so that cramping doesn’t happen? Isn’t that kind of basic? Oh, well.
 

nolefam_2024

Bionic Poster
He's a bang average player and lucky to win a major title.
Totally overhyped. If not for Nole ban he may still be waiting for first gs.

I know Carlos will be ATG in future. Right now technically he wasn't far ahead of Novak. Or even ahead. He couldn't beat Nole on the slowest surface. Come AO Nole would have absolutely thrashed him if he showed up.
 

Halba

Hall of Fame
Totally overhyped. If not for Nole ban he may still be waiting for first gs.

I know Carlos will be ATG in future. Right now technically he wasn't far ahead of Novak. Or even ahead. He couldn't beat Nole on the slowest surface. Come AO Nole would have absolutely thrashed him if he showed up.
absolutely and his fitness is so bad hes not a guarantee of anything. Wimbledon, grass, he will do extremely poorly with that WTA level serve. Even Rafa's serve was miles miles better
 
My feelings are of vindication. Djokovic will probably play till 40, win 3/4 slams more and Raz and Rune time will come within 2 years. All the beliefs are proven.

While those who tried to discourage nolefams saying he is too old had to eat their own words. Pure vindication.
You were right bro. Plus you had full faith in him unlike me and few other Nolefam. Fair play. I should have more faith but glad he proved me completely wrong! :cautious:
 

LaVie en Rose

Hall of Fame
The first two sets were God tier as far as quality was concerned. Very sad to see Alcaraz injured, he was looking the better player heading into the third set, 1-1 was a very fair scoreline. They were neck and neck. Last two sets were seriously deflated.

But, Djokovic won in the end, and Earth's citizens can sleep well at least one more night, and that is what ultimately matters.
Cramps are not injury but condition. It was up to him to come in to GS SF better conditioned .
 

socallefty

G.O.A.T.
In the first set Djokovic came out swinging following the Marozsan strategy of hitting the ball early and hitting big on both wings. Carlos seemed shocked and made unforced errors trying to hit too big in some rallies when he should have been playing defense. He resorted to too many drop shots which were not as effective as usual because he tried them when he did not have good court position. Djokovic also served well at a high % with good pace and deservedly won the set as he made some clutch serves when Carlos had break points in two games.

In the second set, Carlos was more patient and Djokovic’s serve speed dropped off significantly. Djokovic’s legs also seemed to tire a bit and there was a stretch of games in the middle where he seemed to be hitting at a more controlled pace than the first set which allowed Alcaraz to break him as suddenly the drop shots were more effective and Djokovic missed some volleys. Djokovic played aggressively to come back from 0-40 at 4-5 to tie the set, but could not keep up the intensity and lost the set with a late break.

Carlos cramped early in the third and the match was over as a competitive tussle after that. Credit to Djokovic for staying focused and efficiently finishing the job handing out a couple of breadsticks. Could Djokovic have continued to hit/serve big to win two more sets if Carlos hadn’t cramped? Would Carlos have wore his legs down otherwise and won with a highlight reel of drop shots? We will never know.

The question is why a young, fit-looking athlete like Alcaraz is cramping twice in two key matches within three months? Today’s cramps episode followed the debacle in Miami against Sinner in a similar, hard-fought battle. Is it just match stress or is he taking diuretics to hide the use of other banned substances?

 
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