When Do Future Pros Start Using "Pro-stock" Racquets?

mtommer

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#52
Yeah 100%. Most "pro stock" are just what they grew up using/preferred as they became young adults. Same case for coric and the "new generation."

Pro stocks really aren't anything special beyond being non retail. You can find ultra light retail sticks ideal for modification. Sometimes newer frames are similar enough that players just switch to them out right.
It's amazing how many people don't want to believe your first point.

To add to your second point, it's not hard to pull ten or twenty frames off of the production line and have them cut to a different length than the retail version as well as being drilled for a different string pattern. Then, you throw them back on the line to have them painted the "retail" colorway and ship them to the player. Now, does that mean that this is what happens? Perhaps but it's not "fact".
 
#53
The point was they're (pro stocks) just racquets you can't buy currently. If you can buy it at retail, is it a pro stock? No.

Also don't bother with Ron. I'm pretty sure it's a staff troll account.
If that is the definition of a pro stock and its the general consensus then fine by me.
Just to add none of the pro stock tennis racquets seem to hit over 66/67 RA with exceptions
of Delp who had multiple wrist ops as direct result.
 
#54
No sorry you are not right, I clarified why you were suffering mentally but you avoided it like most neural challenged victims do.
"every Future player uses a pro stock, even most amateurs but they dont realize this" you keep bleating...
Del Potro like Rasta Germaican used a 71 RA frame that required multiple wrist operations or a bottom feeding career.

Thiem was making a breakthrough with any racquet and Babolat saw this to try and save their investment in this model
Tsonga made his breakthrough 11 years ago for an AO Final with Head and since then has never made another Slam Final.

You said"WTA players who now play with powerfull tweeners. You may not like it but there is a lot of diversity. I myself havent tried my Apd with the same thick Blast string that Nadal uses. Maybe then i could get the same control as he has, "

Women are not Men and tweeners help them with the lighter balls that dont need a box beam with mass.
In the mens Deminaur uses a box beam with little mass and can hardly peel the skin of a banana vs the top 10.

"I myself havent tried my Apd with the same thick Blast string that Nadal uses. Maybe then i could get the same control as he has..." your dream analysis.....

No sorry, you will not get control as he has you need his upbringing, relaxed mechanics, mentality and crazy feel.
Basically Nadal is the Matador and the APD is the Bull. He often uses the Bull for his amazing displays but
sometimes he gets injured by performing with it yet less than any other tightly clad groin sufferer in the Stadium.



Thiem, Johnson, Shapovalov, Nishioka and many other are using Pro stocks available at retail atm.
The wrist problems of Delpo and Rasta german have more to do with their too high tensioned poly, not their racquet. Why should WTA players with stiffer racquets than generally men have less arm injuries?. So your examples are biased and say nothing.
 
#55
The wrist problems of Delpo and Rasta german have more to do with their too high tensioned poly, not their racquet. Why should WTA players with stiffer racquets than generally men have less arm injuries?. So your examples are biased and say nothing.
My examples are from other experienced posters and usual victims of TE they are not my own conclusions
You tell me who in their right mind with TE will ever keep using a stiff racquet? I dont think Tennis is your sport
maybe try lawn bolls, they geriatric ladies section might believe your lack of logic and be lenient to you skipping your pills

plus.... something to think about
WTA uses lighter balls.

Babolat PD Lite 2012, older PD lite versions and late Babolat Pure Drive Lite GT are 67 RA
great base models to customize for pros and any level players trying to avoid TE
 
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#56
My examples are from other experienced posters and usual victims of TE they are not my own conclusions
You tell me who in their right mind with TE will ever keep using a stiff racquet? I dont think Tennis is your sport
maybe try lawn bolls, they geriatric ladies section might believe your lack of logic and be lenient to you skipping your pills

plus.... something to think about
WTA uses lighter balls.

Babolat PD Lite 2012, older PD lite versions and late Babolat Pure Drive Lite GT are 67 RA
great base models to customize for pros and any level players trying to avoid TE
Have you taken your pills mister? Delpo swirching to a gut hybrid instead to a softer racquet is enough proof you r not right. Nishikori switch recently to a softer hybrid because is another example you r not right about these te. Then in the past Lendl played fine without arm injuries with a stiff racquet and won a lit of tournaments too with it.
 
#57
LOL the deluded un-imaginative loser always uses originators example and ideas as their own.
You need something like a "Willow Seed" from Black Mirror Ep 3 to help your poor excuses and neural issues.
Delpo did not use that combo before the ops or he would be one of the top 4 for the last 9 years.
Glass Ninja is not using the same RA as Delpo you are really lost, its a wilson tour like Henin`s based on this
https://www.tennis-warehouse.com/REVIEWS/WNT/WNTReview.html
very flexy 61 RA also I have various Lendl racquets even the last Mizuno he used before
retirement all in my cabinet, they are all soft plush units, so wrong again.
 
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#58
LOL the deluded un-imaginative loser always uses originators example and ideas as their own.
You need something like a "Willow Seed" from Black Mirror Ep 3 to help your poor excuses and neural issues.
Delpo did not use that combo before the ops or he would be one of the top 4 for the last 9 years.
Glass Ninja is not using the same RA as Delpo you are really lost, its a wilson tour like Henin`s based on this
https://www.tennis-warehouse.com/REVIEWS/WNT/WNTReview.html
very flexy 61 RA also I have various Lendl racquets even the last Mizuno he used before
retirement all in my cabinet, they are all soft plush units, so wrong again.
So my English is not perfect because its not my mothertonque, however you persist in reading other things then i write. I only wrote that Nishikori switched to a more arm friendly hybrid than he used before. So despite his 61 ra racquet he still got arm injuries in the past!!!!
Than if the more arm friendly tennis balls, they use according you in WTA, why dont all you friends with TE then not use these balls, instead of continiously blame their racquets for it? I m become really tired of these excuses. Now Wilson has made them a very wet noodle racquet. I say shut up and use that regardless if any pro it is using or not.
And lastly your login name says it all, you are religious about racquets, so you cant think properly, nonpillsvare goning to help you.
And that really all there is to the discussion!
 
#59
English is not my 1st language either yet that is not needed to understand Nishikori never switched to an arm friendly racquet just maybe an arm friendly PJ for you
Seriously trolling with incorrect personal observations is not what most do here for obvious reasons. So please Schaap-up weve had enough silly fabrications.
 
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