When do you expect USTA ratings to come out?
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CiscoPC600
Professional
Any confirmation on the final match date that will count?
Justagamefool
New User
Always coincides with the last "Adult" national - 11/10 this year.
schmke
Hall of Fame
They are still using a computer from the 90's? :O
Seriously, I think the calculations are reasonably straight-forward, I know I do my year-end calculations in a few hours, but I think the USTA has some built in review cycles for National and perhaps even sections to review things. How much input they have to tweak things I'm not sure, but I would not be surprised if some changes are made and things recalculated based on that a few times. Certainly there have been manual overrides in some years to try and balance things across sections or address gluts of players at some levels.
Seriously, I think the calculations are reasonably straight-forward, I know I do my year-end calculations in a few hours, but I think the USTA has some built in review cycles for National and perhaps even sections to review things. How much input they have to tweak things I'm not sure, but I would not be surprised if some changes are made and things recalculated based on that a few times. Certainly there have been manual overrides in some years to try and balance things across sections or address gluts of players at some levels.
In Norcal there is 18-45 singles league that it is my understanding will count for ratings, although that wasn't a final decision. Last year they had the same league and it didn't count but that was apparently an oversight that should have been corrected for this year. Last date for matches in that league is 11/24.
Matthew ATX
Semi-Pro
Anyone remember when TR posts their year end projected rating?
therecanbeonlyone
Semi-Pro
@schmke do you have any inkling that a redistribution might happen? Reason I ask is because of the ratings distributions per section, as TR has shown here : TRecords
For men’s ratings, most sections have about an equal amount of 3.5s and 4.0s with about half that amount of 4.5s. In Southern, we have over 11,000 3.5s, 8,400 4.0s, and then 2,800 4.5s.
Are we just eating too much BBQ and fried foods to normalize those numbers with the rest of the nation?
For men’s ratings, most sections have about an equal amount of 3.5s and 4.0s with about half that amount of 4.5s. In Southern, we have over 11,000 3.5s, 8,400 4.0s, and then 2,800 4.5s.
Are we just eating too much BBQ and fried foods to normalize those numbers with the rest of the nation?
schmke
Hall of Fame
I don't have any reason to believe a redistribution is in the works. At least nothing like the couple of big ones that have occurred in the past couple years. There can still be local adjustments if the USTA sees fit though.
Last year for example, Caribbean had a far larger number of bump ups than any other section and more than past years which seemed to indicate an adjustment was made there. A few years ago there were significant bump ups for several sections that had done very well at Nationals the past few years.
Wait, that counts for ratings this year?????
Fffff.... Well, there goes my rating....
Oh well, I’m pretty sure I wasn’t getting bumped up anyway,and even with how badly I’m playing in that league I’m pretty sure I’m not going to get bumped down anyway, so i guess it doesn’t matter...
I'm going based on a conversation I had with DeDee last year at sectionals for the event. She said that they would count for ratings this year, but no official specific word.
schmke
Hall of Fame
This page at least says it counts: https://www.usta.com/en/home/play/adult-tennis/programs/northerncalifornia/18-to-39-adult-league.html
MaxTennis
Professional
I’m hoping my 2 matches for 18-45 league make up for my 3 bad singles losses in 18+ lol.
CiscoPC600
Professional
I can't wait to see what happens with my 4.0 rating. I went 2-6 at 4.5 with 3 of those losses coming to three sets and to high 4.5 players. The only 4.0 league match I played I won 6-2, 6-0.
tennis_tater
Semi-Pro
That all points to a bump.
They’ll be published. Then the website will crash due to load and the ratings won’t be available for another few days because nothing will load.
Don’t count on getting them on release day. There’s no rush.
5sets
Professional
Lol, yea I think last year I saw them around 4 pm. Curious as to what the TennisRecord over/under is in comparison with USTA NTRP.
I’m on the cusp of being bumped so I’m very curious to see what happens with the new ratings.
Do we get an email? Or is it necessary to login to your USTA account to see if your rating has changed? This is my first full year of league tennis so I don’t know how the new ratings are communicated.
Do we get an email? Or is it necessary to login to your USTA account to see if your rating has changed? This is my first full year of league tennis so I don’t know how the new ratings are communicated.
tennis_tater
Semi-Pro
You do not get an email telling you that your rating has or has not changed. You may, however, get an email from your section or district telling you the ratings have been published. This usually comes in my district a day or two after the publish. You can either do as OnTheLine suggested on the app or simply search your name on Find a Rating on TennisLink. If you see 12/31/2019 rating next to your rating, you will know its your new rating.
BTW, if you have an Android phone don't waste your time looking for the USTA app. They only offer an app for iPhone users.
Why do predictions by Tennis Record matter? Do you also read tea leaves?
Jack the Hack
Hall of Fame
Real-time picture of the USTA updating the ratings:
therecanbeonlyone
Semi-Pro
I stayed at 4.0. A few surprises, in my mind, were bumped up. Also at least 2 of the local 4.5s who clearly tanked last season did not get the bump down that they were so desperate for.
Everything has updated...I did get the nod as well to 4.5. You had me dialed in this year.
Jack the Hack
Hall of Fame
Still a 4.5 here also, as expected.
(Although, I was kinda' hoping to get dropped to 4.0 so I could be on the All TT 4.0 team in 2020... ha, ha...
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(Although, I was kinda' hoping to get dropped to 4.0 so I could be on the All TT 4.0 team in 2020... ha, ha...
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n8dawg6
Legend
@J011yroger got bumped outta the ranking system. tennislink is actually printing out dolla bills to him
dcdoorknob
Hall of Fame
I got bumped to 4.0, which was a real shock. Right at a .500 record (almost all doubles) at 3.5. TennisRecord has me as a 3.19 (!).
I did an auto-appeal and it was granted, so I'm a 3.5A now, but still, I'm flabbergasted that I was even anywhere close. All my results this year point to me being a middle of the road 3.5 imo.
I did an auto-appeal and it was granted, so I'm a 3.5A now, but still, I'm flabbergasted that I was even anywhere close. All my results this year point to me being a middle of the road 3.5 imo.
J011yroger
Talk Tennis Guru
They are out and Southern Section took a big hit on the chin.
Arkansas had a ton of bump ups at the 4.0-5.0 level, have not seen that many in one year and there are a couple of very questionable ones at that, player as a self-rate goes 0/3 at 4.5 40's and got a 5.0, never won more than 4 games in a set.
Central Little Rock 4.0 League: 36 bumps to 4.5 out of 92 players, one already appealed down, so standing at 34 now. over 33% bump
Arkansas had a ton of bump ups at the 4.0-5.0 level, have not seen that many in one year and there are a couple of very questionable ones at that, player as a self-rate goes 0/3 at 4.5 40's and got a 5.0, never won more than 4 games in a set.
Central Little Rock 4.0 League: 36 bumps to 4.5 out of 92 players, one already appealed down, so standing at 34 now. over 33% bump
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FearTheJester
New User
This is similar to 2009 when there were massive bump-ups. Looks like they're trying to increase participation in the 4.5 leagues.
yet they just cut out a line in the 40's 4.5+ league
FearTheJester
New User
I'm not sure what they hope to accomplish by doing this; they are so disconnected from the average league player.
3 in AR league got bumped to 5.5 as 5.0's from 2019
ace18
Professional
You are right about the Southern Section, at least Georgia any way. Tons of bumps... Lots of bumps to 5.0
Tattooedracket
New User
Me and 7 others on my team bumped up to 4.5, quite shocking as we were only thinking 1or 2.