When will Rune realise he isn't part of "the new big three"

Pheasant said:
2025 is going to be crucial for Rune. He better step up and make a couple of slam semis.
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That’s going to be an uphill task. For him to make a “couple” slam semis he’d have to be playing between a top 2-4 level. Essentially he’d have to be a serious grand slam contender, and he sucks at outdoor hardcourt. Right now, he’s physically, mentally unable to do so, and his game has too many flaws to allow him to do so. He has NOT improved in the last 18-24 months
 
messiahrobins said:
I think from next season he will be too much for Djokovic for definite.
I think he will lose more than he wins v Alcaraz and Sinner next season but i could see him upsetting one or both at a Major.
2026 onwards i think he could well be Alcaraz main rival ahead of Sinner.
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Lol Shelton has the worst return game in the Top 50. He is just a servebot with flashy FH. A budget Kygrios
 
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GRASScaraz said:
Lol Shelton has the worst return game in the Top 50. He is just a servebot with flashy FH. A budget Kygrios
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Nice comparison. Yet, unlike Kyrgios, I'd put my bet in Shelton if I had to chose any of the two to put their shiet together.
 
There will be no "new big three" anytime soon. For the time being it´s all about the rat and the carrot. Rune is not even a top 10 player these days.
 
He still has time to work on his game. If he doesn't improve in the next few months to a year, his fans should expect a Dimitrov like career for him.
 
KingCarlitos said:
He's not even at the level of players like Zverev, Tsitsipas and Ruud
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Rune is better than Ruud ability wise though him having a better career is debatable and Ruud has the head to head advantage. Ruud has been in slam finals and is talented but he is not that special compared to many other top-ranked players.
 
mike danny said:
Also, if it's about the Paris masters win, Karen Khachanov also won Paris beating a bunch of top 10 players including Djokovic in the final.
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Rune is better than Khachanov ability wise though and he has been ranked higher and has more top 10 and top 5 wins. Though I agree that him winning the Paris masters does not necessarily mean that much long term
 
lurker2025 said:
Rune is better than Ruud ability wise though him having a better career is debatable and Ruud has the head to head advantage. Ruud has been in slam finals and is talented but he is not that special compared to many other top-ranked players.
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Talent wise rune’s ceiling is higher than Ruuds.
But talent only gets you so far. As noted in another thread, the guys who run the changeover podcast captured Runes game to a T. It’s almost as if he’s indecisive on being offensive or defensive. His eoy 2022 and 2023 season you could see the potential at such a young age. But he’s not progressed at all in slams and is too inconsistent. He might also have an issue with his mom too much involved similar to the Stefanos titisipas where strategy and coaching involvement just becomes toxic.

Next year is a make or break year for him.
 
GRASScaraz said:
Not ATG potential but still could be a threat down the road. Let's see how he does indoors...
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Can he win a slam? Imo ,nope!! Some clowns kept saying bro he’s just 18 give him some time, he is not good enough for baseline era. Dude is -19 now and has done nothing to warrant the hype , some said he can challenge Sinnercraz lol
 
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My man "Rune" is getting distracted by WTA beauties. Once he is free of their temptation and focusses on men's tour, he will conquer them all.

Why big 3. Only Rune
 
TennisGrandpA said:
Can he win a slam? Imo ,nope!! Some clowns kept saying bro he’s just 18 give him some time, he is not good enough for baseline era. Dude is -9 now and has done nothing to warrant the hype , some said he can challenge Sinnercraz lol
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He could if Sinner continues with his health issues and Raz early exit
 
ChrisJR3264 said:
Talent wise rune’s ceiling is higher than Ruuds.
But talent only gets you so far. As noted in another thread, the guys who run the changeover podcast captured Runes game to a T. It’s almost as if he’s indecisive on being offensive or defensive. His eoy 2022 and 2023 season you could see the potential at such a young age. But he’s not progressed at all in slams and is too inconsistent. He might also have an issue with his mom too much involved similar to the Stefanos titisipas where strategy and coaching involvement just becomes toxic.

Next year is a make or break year for him.
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What Ruud and Rune have in common is that they are Nordic and overhyped. Ruud is not as overhyped as Rune but the media and some tennis fans sometimes overhype him. For example, even though he has been in slam finals, Ruud's level is far closer to someone like Khachanov than to Zverev or Tsitsipas. I have not seen much of Rune but he did impress me at the Barcelona Open. Since then however his form has been underwhelming and he has had many losses against lower-ranked players.
 
6 kings was premature in my books, he got lucky when
the kid and mum were trying to sell broken pa98 sticks

6K should have gotten Wawrinka or Murray not Rune
just slam winners not another Zverev pre-Gatekeeper.
 
DariaGT said:
6 kings was premature in my books, he got lucky when
the kid and mum were trying to sell broken pa98 sticks

6K should have gotten Wawrinka or Murray not Rune
just slam winners not another Zverev pre-Gatekeeper.
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Probably makes sense in Russian...
 
Rune ruined his chances at more RGs than Rafa
His mother still believes though but for the meantime
have to endure not smashing his pa98 as he is not
allowed to sell the smashed ones for profit.
 
GRASScaraz said:
Not ATG potential but still could be a threat down the road. Let's see how he does indoors...
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You might be right. In fact you probably are as over 99% of players won't reach ATG status.

Simple match tell us its very safe to bet against anyone becoming an ATG.

Having said that here is Novak results his first full year on tour:

AO - 1st round
FO- 2nd round
Wimbledon - 3rd round
USO - 3rd round

Very similar to Fonseca. Am I predicting 24 slams for Fonseca? No, I'm not but its far too early in his career to draw any type of conclusions.
 
He lost against Vacherot because his TTW harems stopped believing in him and left his bandwagon and didn't even cheer for him even when he wears sleeveless shirt.

On a serious note, the crowds in the stadium didn't cheer loudly when Rune enters the stadium. They cheered very loudly when Djokovic enters the stadium.

So I think building a fan base is an important factor. Rune should do a massive social media campaign and get 1 billion followers. When crowds cheer for you very loudly it will give you an extra motivation. I think getting rejected by women really broke Rune.
 
People are still overrating Rune why talking about him being overrated.

People keep talking about his talent so let's talk about it.

Rune to me is one of those players who is "pretty good" at lot of stuff but isn't exceptional at anything. And to have the type of career he want you can't be "pretty good". You have to be exceptional at something.

Serve - pretty good, not exceptional. Examples of exceptional servers I'd say are Zverev, Berrettini, Shelton, Fritz, Opelka and believe it or not Alcaraz who many said was too short to be a good server.
Backhand - pretty good not exceptional - a great backhand would be Djokovic...Alcaraz has improved his backhand a ton the last six months, right now I think its a tick below super elite but I'm sure he'll get there
Forehand - leaves a lot to be desired - great forehands are Alcaraz & Sinner
Net play & variety - he is ok here far from exceptional, someone who is exceptional here is Alcaraz
athleticism - his is pretty good...not exceptional, someone with exceptional athleticism is Alcaraz
tennis IQ - leaves a lot to be desired. Hands down the best tennis IQ on tour at the moment is Djokovic

By the way looking at the list we can see Alcaraz is exceptional at a lot of things. I bet that young man will win some slams. Rune? Not so much.

To win a slam you HAVE to have at least one exceptional quality. As of now Rune has none. So until that changes he won't be winning any slams.

Up until this point we have to Rune is mostly a NIKE hype job. No other way around it.
 
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