When will someone actually pass Fed’s peak level of tennis?

[initialize]

I see slam records being broken but yet to see Fed’s skill level surpassed.

That’s why the whole world are fans of Fed over Djokodal… they know the talent when they see it.

when will someone come along that exceeds his peak level?

 

[RS]

Peak is opinion based.

 

[TopspintheTerrible]

Alcaraz has shown flashes of brutality. He’s prob the best hope right now.

 

[Cortana]

Djokovics 2014-2016 run?

 

[Deleted member 758560]

nadal at rg this year will do it

 

[Forgive Me Father]

Okay, which is?

Show us examples.

Don't just yap generalities.

When babydal serves for the 2nd set against peak Federer at Wimbledon, or baby Djokovic takes a set from Fed in early '06, it gives plenty reason to believe peak Rafa or Nole could be better.

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

I feel Rafa played some pretty vintage tennis today. Especially in sets 4 and 5

 

[Sampras-Bruguera 1993]

Fed will always have the most raw talent/ability out of the big 3. can't take that from him.. Peak level? I dont know. Nadal/Nole played some amazing peak level tennis in their day too

 

[Third Serve]

lol ok

 

[metsman]

Peak is opinion based.

2005 AO Fed vs 2022 AO Nadal who wins?

 

[urban]

RG finals 2008 and 2020 were pretty peak tennis.

 

[RS]

2005 AO Fed vs 2022 AO Nadal who wins?

Federer.

 

[metsman]

Federer.

I just wanted to turn the tables a bit, carry on

 

[xFedal]

I see slam records being broken but yet to see Fed’s skill level surpassed.

That’s why the whole world are fans of Fed over Djokodal… they know the talent when they see it.

when will someone come along that exceeds his peak level?

His peak was surpassed by Med at the USO21

TOTALS	Match	Tiebreak	Ace%	1stIn	1st%	2nd%	Hld%	SPW	Brk%	RPW	TPW	DR
[x] Time Span: 2021; Event...	7-0 (100%)​	0-0 (-)​	15.6%​	64.6%​	82.0%​	56.9%​	92.9%​	73.1%​	39.2%​	46.0%​	58.3%​	1.71​

 

[wangs78]

I don't think anyone will ever surpass Fed's level of tennis perfection. But I also doubt anyone will ever surpass Rafa's grit, determination and fighting spirit either. They each bring very different but equally admirable qualities to the sport.

 

[ConnorH]

I see slam records being broken but yet to see Fed’s skill level surpassed.

That’s why the whole world are fans of Fed over Djokodal… they know the talent when they see it.

when will someone come along that exceeds his peak level?

Fed's peak was characterized by his lopsided losing H2H record against a younger opponent.

 

[TopspintheTerrible]

Fed's peak was characterized by his lopsided losing H2H record against a younger opponent.

It was characterized by absolutely brutal offensive tennis & some of the best shotmaking ever, if not the best.

 

[Deleted member 758560]

Federer.

safin 05 vs med 22?

 

[initialize]

His peak was surpassed by Med at the USO21

TOTALS	Match	Tiebreak	Ace%	1stIn	1st%	2nd%	Hld%	SPW	Brk%	RPW	TPW	DR
[x] Time Span: 2021; Event...	7-0 (100%)​	0-0 (-)​	15.6%​	64.6%​	82.0%​	56.9%​	92.9%​	73.1%​	39.2%​	46.0%​	58.3%​	1.71​

Your saying 2021 USO Med would have beat any version of Federer?

 

[ConnorH]

It was characterized by absolutely brutal offensive tennis & some of the best shotmaking ever, if not the best.

Only it proved that was the weakest era during of 40 years of my watching tennis matches.

 

[Anurag Kashyap]

Find life and work

 

[RS]

safin 05 vs med 22?

The Russian.

 

[TopspintheTerrible]

Only it proved that was the weakest era during of 40 years of my watching tennis matches.

Yea you’re right. The current era of youngsters has been breathtaking.

 

[initialize]

Only it proved that was the weakest era during of 40 years of my watching tennis matches.

Then I’d hate to see what you think of today’s “next gen” era LOL

 

[TMF]

Peak is opinion based.

When a player won 11 Slam titles in 4 years, made 10 straight Grand Slam finals, 18/19 slam finals, 237 consecutive weeks #1, 5 straight Wimbledon & USO....

that's not an opinion but pure facts.

 

[TopspintheTerrible]

Then I’d hate to see what you think of today’s “next gen” era LOL

I don’t get how somebody can watch the Shapo/Berrettini vs Nadal matches and truly believe they are far beyond Davydenko, Hewitt, Safin or Roddick.

 

[RS]

When a player won 11 Slam titles in 4 years, made 10 straight Grand Slam finals, 18/19 slam finals, 237 consecutive weeks #1, 5 straight Wimbledon & USO....

that's not an opinion but pure facts.

I mean when we put great players H2H from different eras and generally and in different events.

But yes Federer was the most dominant number one in that stretch in OE and numbers back it up.

 

[Nadal_King]

I feel Rafa played some pretty vintage tennis today. Especially in sets 4 and 5

I mean some of the tennis was like not even text book stuff such amazing shotmaking it was

 

[initialize]

I don’t get how somebody can watch the Shapo/Berrettini vs Nadal matches and truly believe they are far beyond Davydenko, Hewitt, Safin or Roddick.

So true… I’m convinced more than half the users here never watched those older generation players, whether it’s because they’re too young or became fans of tennis just recently..

 

[TopspintheTerrible]

So true… I’m convinced more than half the users here never watched those older generation players, whether it’s because they’re too young or became fans of tennis just recently..

True. And even if you think the young crop are better tennis players, they’re certainly not better competitors.

 

[onefineday]

Edberg did it in the USO '91 final.

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

I mean some of the tennis was like not even text book stuff such amazing shotmaking it was

Exactly it was top draw quality and some of the gets and shots Rafa hit were insane. It reminded me of when he really went for vintage shots in the 5th set against Djokovic at RG 2013 semi.

 

[ibbi]

It's such a garbage argument. Tennis aficionados may sit on the internet fawning over Federer because of how he plays, but the majority of people couldn't care less about that. His universal, unwavering popularity didn't kick in till the 2010's when he had long ceased playing his finest tennis. They were cheering every bit as much for Roddick and Del Potro in 2009, they were cheering for Djokovic in 2010, Jo Willy in 2011. The French have admittedly always been his minions, but it didn't kick in for everyone else till long after he stopped dominating.

To answer your question, the further we get away from him the less and less the chances of seeing that sort of thing are likely to be. He was that perfect age coming out of one age going into another, and he managed to cross over. Plenty of his peers play/played pretty tennis (Stepanek, Feliciano, Haas, Llodra, Mahut, etc.) but they were all far less successful combining it with the fundamental stuff he does so well that made him the best of both worlds. That's the problem with all the ones they've tried comparing to him - Gasquet, Dimitrov, Tsitsipas - pretty strokes without anywhere near enough of the brainpower to put everything else together around it.

 

[Thriller]

Nadal did. From FO2008 - AO2009, no one had ever played better tennis.

 

[GabeT]

You are several years late

 

[PilotPete]

This is all weak era inflation. I thought Meddy was past the others, but it looks like Djokoic win was a fluke.

 

[mistik]

Fed peak level is all about the likes off hewitt Roddick,and Baghdatis there for it is nothing more than myth.

 

[ollinger]

I thought Meddy was past the others, but it looks like Djokoic win was a fluke.

Only at TTW is your slam win a fluke because you only got to the finals of the next slam and lost a close 5 set match to perhaps the GOAT

 

[Ray Mercer]

Probably won’t ever see a player like Federer again. All the players now are garbage uncoordinated, gangly two handed baseline bots with no variety.

 

[initialize]

Probably won’t ever see a player like Federer again. All the players now are garbage uncoordinated, gangly two handed baseline bots with no variety.

Ugh I know. I wonder if tennis will slowly die since there’s no talent left nowadays…

 

[Rorano_Fedalovic]

I'd take a guy of same playing level but far less prone to choking any day of the week...

 

[initialize]

I'd take a guy of same playing level but far less prone to choking any day of the week...

all of the Big 3 choked bad at several times in their careers

 

[Rorano_Fedalovic]

all of the Big 3 choked bad at several times in their careers

AO 2009 vs Nadl (W2008 was also bad; the fact that he threw the first 2 sets disqualifies this one as a choke though), USO2009 vs Delpo, W2014 vs Novak and worst of all W2019 vs Novak...

 

[Deleted member 629564]

When will someone actually pass Fed’s peak level of tennis?

Oh, look, another 'depressed fedfans let's brace ourselves' thread on the day of Nadal's #21.

 

[Rorano_Fedalovic]

Oh, look, another 'depressed fedfans let's brace ourselves' thread on the day of Nadal's #21.

yes, the Vamos-Brigade will keep to themselves and their forums once Novak surpasses Nadal again (but I agree, lol butthurt fans)

 

[ghostofMecir]

Might not ever happen. I haven’t seen it yet.

 

[TheNachoMan]

Djokovic already did

 

[initialize]

Djokovic already did

Haven’t seen it honestly

 

[Rorano_Fedalovic]

Djokovic already did

let's just hope he prefers goating on the court again to being the cult leader that he is these days. right now it looks like Rafa stands atop because one of his rivals is a choker and the other is an idiot.

 

[TheNachoMan]

Haven’t seen it honestly

2011, 2015, and early 2016 Djokovic imo.