When will someone actually pass Fed’s peak level of tennis?

mike danny

Bionic Poster
Meh Nadal 2010 and Djoko 2011 are the greatest tennis players of all time. Both players win the slams like Fed did in that era.

Nadal regularly beat Fed around his prime years. Baby Rafa had many deficiencies even but still managed to compete even at Wimbledon against Fed
2004-2007 Fed also comfortably wins the 2010 slams and wins 2 slams in 2011.
 

utsd21

Rookie
I also think fed and nadal’s approach to fans and PR are much better the djokovic. They both give off friendly vibes where djokovic’s outbursts on courts and somewhat dry interviews makes him much easier to leave out of the conversation.

They both have a better polished PR persona
That doesn't tell you much about who they really are
 

utsd21

Rookie
Ljubicic and Blake #3 and #4... teenage clay courter #2... says it all... where's your updated list???

By the way, can someone inform another top 10 diamond, Mr. Andrey Rublev, aka the king of up to ATP 500, that there are M1000 and GS?
Looks like he's not aware about them, and it's a pity, since the prize money and points are better there
 

The_Order

G.O.A.T.
By the way, can someone inform another top 10 diamond, Mr. Andrey Rublev, aka the king of up to ATP 500, that there are M1000 and GS?
Looks like he's not aware about them, and it's a pity, since the prize money and points are better there

He's already made 4 slam quarter finals... one more than Blake did across his entire career...

But he hasn't been ranked #4 though....

As for Masters, Rublev has made it to 2 finals and 1 semi already... that's the best Blake could do across his entire career...

Do your research next time
 

utsd21

Rookie
He's already made 4 slam quarter finals... one more than Blake did across his entire career...

But he hasn't been ranked #4 though....

As for Masters, Rublev has made it to 2 finals and 1 semi already... that's the best Blake could do across his entire career...

Do your research next time

Are you referring to the masters where the Big 3 didn't participate?
You're right, that's a huge achievement
Better tell me what are his achievements in the tournaments where Big 3 played
And tell me as well how Ruud's presence in top 10 is a sign of a strong era
Or Goffin's presence in WTF final match:cool:
 

The_Order

G.O.A.T.
Are you referring to the masters where the Big 3 didn't participate?
You're right, that's a huge achievement
Better tell me what are his achievements in the tournaments where Big 3 played
And tell me as well how Ruud's presence in top 10 is a sign of a strong era
Or Goffin's presence in WTF final match:cool:

Well, he did beat Nadal in clay in masters last year..

Pretty sure the big 3 played in 2 of the 4 the slams where he reached the qf.. how about Blake?
 

utsd21

Rookie
Well, he did beat Nadal in clay in masters last year..

Pretty sure the big 3 played in 2 of the 4 the slams where he reached the qf.. how about Blake?

1. Did he reach the final after beating Nadal?
2. What about Ruud?
3. What about Goffin?

Answer about Ruud & Goffin, and then let's talk about Blake
 

UnderratedSlam

G.O.A.T.
2004-2007 Fed also comfortably wins the 2010 slams and wins 2 slams in 2011.
Right, so you're saying RF was already way past his prime peak shmeep in 2010, JUST A YEAR AFTER winning 3/4 slams?

Yeah, makes a lot of sense...

Mono was back, right?

He vultured 09 FO and W in Nadal's absence, couldn't even beat Delpo at USO09 as a heavy heavy heavy favourite, then as soon as Rafa and Novak went a gear higher (10 and 11 respectively) RF was no longer the best but in 3rd place.

And of course age is hardly an excuse coz he is 40 now, yet not retired, AND had 40-15 at Wimby 19 (a decade later), AND won/vultured 2/3 slams in 17/18... And GAS, the Great Age Shift, AND he proved to be a mental midget compared to Novak and...
 

The_Order

G.O.A.T.
1. Did he reach the final after beating Nadal?
2. What about Ruud?
3. What about Goffin?

Answer about Ruud & Goffin, and then let's talk about Blake

Not sure what you're trying to drive with this anyway... I've never once said that currently we're in a strong era..

08 - 13 was the strongest era... and we all know who out of the big 3 won the most majors in that time frame...
 

utsd21

Rookie
Not sure what you're trying to drive with this anyway... I've never once said that currently we're in a strong era..

08 - 13 was the strongest era... and we all know who out of the big 3 won the most majors in that time frame...

I answered your sarcasm with examples that are relevant to your favourite player
Should I be surprised that you don't understand the answer?

Let me finish this post with a quote from your fellow, which fits here perfectly:
I am sure that all makes sense, in your head.
 

The_Order

G.O.A.T.
I answered your sarcasm with examples that are relevant to your favourite player
Should I be surprised that you don't understand the answer?

Let me finish this post with a quote from your fellow, which fits here perfectly:

How are they relevant exactly?

Federer was at his peak when he was up against mugs that are just as weak as today's competition...

He certainly however, didn't have another goat contender his age splitting majors with him...

Best comp was a pre-prime Nadal...

Rublev despite only being 24 and having similar success to Blake across his whole career still hasn't reached a ranking as high as Blake did..

Let's not even get into Ljubicic being #3... lmfao
 

itrium84

Hall of Fame
I see slam records being broken but yet to see Fed’s skill level surpassed.

That’s why the whole world are fans of Fed over Djokodal… they know the talent when they see it.

when will someone come along that exceeds his peak level?
Novak Djokovic.
W2015-RG2016.
Highest domination level in tennis history.
 

utsd21

Rookie
How are they relevant exactly?

Federer was at his peak when he was up against mugs that are just as weak as today's competition...

He certainly however, didn't have another goat contender his age splitting majors with him...

Best comp was a pre-prime Nadal...

Rublev despite only being 24 and having similar success to Blake across his whole career still hasn't reached a ranking as high as Blake did..

Let's not even get into Ljubicic being #3... lmfao

I wonder why you decide to skip Ruud & Goffin, but focus on Rublev :)
 

The_Order

G.O.A.T.
I wonder why you decide to skip Ruud & Goffin, but focus on Rublev :)

What about them? They're not strong top 10 players but how are they even relevant?

What's your obsession with top 10 exactly? When was the last time someone ranked outside top 5 not named Djokovic, Federer or Nadal were a realistic chance of winning a major?
 

utsd21

Rookie
What about them? They're not strong top 10 players but how are they even relevant?

What's your obsession with top 10 exactly? When was the last time someone ranked outside top 5 not named Djokovic, Federer or Nadal were a realistic chance of winning a major?

What about them?
Ruud paved his way to top 10 by winning a bunch of 250 tournaments
But you prefer to rant at Blake
 

The_Order

G.O.A.T.
What about them?
Ruud paved his way to top 10 by winning a bunch of 250 tournaments
But you prefer to rant at Blake

Who cares?

Blake was #4... and he made 3 QF in majors in his whole career...

Answer the question... when was the last time someone ranked outside top 5 not named Djokovic, Federer or Nadal were a realistic chance of winning a major?
 

utsd21

Rookie
Who cares?

Blake was #4... and he made 3 QF in majors in his whole career...

Answer the question... when was the last time someone ranked outside top 5 not named Djokovic, Federer or Nadal were a realistic chance of winning a major?

lol, are you sure you want the answer to this question?
Hint, it will throw a shadow on your favorite player, and the period of time we see starting with 2016 :)
 

utsd21

Rookie
The amount of side stepping you're doing is embarrassing...

The fact is you haven't got a decent answer....

lol, if you want to get yet another shadow on your favourite player, then here we go:
Wawrinka, AO & RG, he was ranked outside top 5 both times
Del Potro, USO, he was ranked outside top 5 both times

See what it means? I'll let you figure it out :cool:
 

The_Order

G.O.A.T.
lol, if you want to get yet another shadow on your favourite player, then here we go:
Wawrinka, AO & RG, he was ranked outside top 5 both times
Del Potro, USO, he was ranked outside top 5 both times

See what it means? I'll let you figure it out :cool:

Lol that's it? That's your big embarrassing punch line?

What a flop...

First of all, with Stan we're going back 7 years...

With Del Potro both times? What are you on about, he won US Open once... and that was in 2009 part of one of the strongest eras... and 13 years ago lmfao...

Can't wait till you get banned again... come back with your next troll account...
 

utsd21

Rookie
First of all, with Stan we're going back 7 years...

With Del Potro both times? What are you on about, he won US Open once... and that was in 2009 part of one of the strongest eras... and 13 years ago lmfao...

Exactly, you described very well the last time when there was serious opposition
But, hey, you want it yourself, I offered you enough chances to pedal back
 

The_Order

G.O.A.T.
Exactly, you described very well the last time when there was serious opposition
But, hey, you want it yourself, I offered you enough chances to pedal back

Once again... no shred of evidence of me saying it's a strong era currently...

Just your continuous drivel and sad attempts to argue the point...

2008-2013 was the strongest era. Nadal won the most majors including a career slam beating the #1 or #2 ranked player in the finals (RG12, WIM08, AO09, US13) so he did it across all surfaces against the toughest possible opponents... in fact he was one sitter bh passing shot away from achieving a double career slam during that time frame...
 

utsd21

Rookie
Once again... no shred of evidence of me saying it's a strong era currently...

Just your continuous drivel and sad attempts to argue the point...

2008-2013 was the strongest era. Nadal won the most majors including a career slam beating the #1 or #2 ranked player in the finals (RG12, WIM08, AO09, US13) so he did it across all surfaces against the toughest possible opponents... in fact he was one sitter bh passing shot away from achieving a double career slam during that time frame...

Is somebody arguing the opposite? :eek:
Chill bro, you should be happy with the 21, and double career grand slam, no?
 

DSH

Talk Tennis Guru
Nadal surpassed him when he made the deified Swiss player "mortal".
Oh god, it's killing me!, they are the sobs of someone who has been banished to a second place.
:alien:
 

TMF

Talk Tennis Guru
Nadal surpassed him when he made the deified Swiss player "mortal".
Oh god, it's killing me!, they are the sobs of someone who has been banished to a second place.
:alien:
Federer got his revenge in 2017

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intrepidish

Hall of Fame
Lol that's it? That's your big embarrassing punch line?

What a flop...

First of all, with Stan we're going back 7 years...

With Del Potro both times? What are you on about, he won US Open once... and that was in 2009 part of one of the strongest eras... and 13 years ago lmfao...

Can't wait till you get banned again... come back with your next troll account...


Did you notice that Adam Copeland disappeared recently by the way? He was one of those Fedfan double accounts who pretended he was 'neutral' a fraction of the time and the rest of the time took cheap shots at Nadal
 
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intrepidish

Hall of Fame
Ready to apologize if you're wrong and my account isn't deleted / banned in a reasonable amount of time? :)

Sure, you just joined right before the AO final with Nadal heavily predicted to lose in order to 'discuss in a neutral way' tennis while also being clued into all the usual debates on the forum and taking regular cheap shots at Nadal and his fans while announcing how 'neutral' you are.

It could happen to anyone, certainly ;)
 

utsd21

Rookie
Sure, you just joined right before the AO final with Nadal heavily predicted to lose in order to 'discuss in a neutral way' tennis while also being clued into all the usual debates on the forum and taking regular cheap shots at Nadal and his fans while announcing how 'neutral' you are.

It could happen to anyone, certainly ;)

Actually submitted registration demand before Rafa was in the final ;)
But TT isn't very fast in approving new accounts

Why don't you report me?
And take that deal to apologize if the account isn't deleted / banned in a time we both agree upon?
 

intrepidish

Hall of Fame
Actually submitted registration demand before Rafa was in the final ;)
But TT isn't very fast in approving new accounts

Why don't you report me?
And take that deal to apologize if the account isn't deleted / banned in a time we both agree upon?


Sure. You are just a 'disinterested' neutral who joined (rejoined) right when Nadal was expected to receive a beating in the final and who spends much of his time antagonizing Nadal's fans in the forum while also being familiar with classic forum discussions and attitudes.

As you've been told several times, unless you're extremely careless, it's not so easy to prove a double account if you use a VPN and avoid the most obvious blunders.

In any case, don't worry; you are 'seen' and can retake your place among the usual malcontents.
 

King No1e

G.O.A.T.
I see slam records being broken but yet to see Fed’s skill level surpassed.

That’s why the whole world are fans of Fed over Djokodal… they know the talent when they see it.

when will someone come along that exceeds his peak level?
Can be done right now. Take any pro and put him in a 3.0 rec tournament. You got Peak Fed dominance, with Peak Fed competition as well ;)
 

Kralingen

Bionic Poster
Thank you. I would've mentioned the opponents if I weren't already on my last warning from mods before getting perma-banned for those names. (Not joking)

Hm, maybe I can help. This is my first point of reference when people discuss the peak Fed era. Founded by Jeff's father, so you know it's legit.
 
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