When will Thiem ever achieve the results of Tomic and Kyrgios?

In Grand slams? Thiem managed to take a set from Goffin, in January. But clearly, David was better.

If Thiem had competed in Marseille, he would have lost. Maybe, he's aiming to compete in easier fields? That would make sense.

I see a lot of potential for Thiem. He managed to beat top 10 Tomic in the final, of the great Acapulco. That was a close match, butThiem managed to edge, it out.

Let, Zverev and Kyrgios reach, his age. In how many years will Thiem reach his peak? When he attains Grigor's age? Or Rafael's age?

Which victory, was Thiem's best in your opinion?
 

thomasferrett

Hall of Fame
Potential? Thiem doesn't have much potential.

Kyrgios can hit the ball twice as hard as Thiem can. Again, Kyrgios has progressed further in a Masters than Thiem. Kyrgios has reached a Slam quarterfinal, and I don't see Thiem ever making it that far in a Slam in his career.

Overall, Thiem is underpowered, slow, an unathletic. I expect him to end up with a career similar to Leonardo Mayer.

Kyrgios is better, but he's not a great player himself. I predict a Janowicz-like career for him.
 

acintya

Legend
I see a lot of potential in all of them (youngsters).. But we can only imagine who will take it to the next level. Raonic, and Thiem both can control feelings very well, Kyrgios and Zverev on the other side could have some troubles. I think its more in the head than in the body, they all are talents, but need to work hard and there is no room for errors if they want to go up.
but yeah, kyrgios has some mad power :) explosive like **** (LOL)
 

tennisaddict

Bionic Poster
Raonic would be the most successful without doubt among this group.

He has been a factor since 2010 and hardly ever loses matches he is supposed to win.

I see a vacuum period in the next 2 years when he take advantage.

Zverev seems to have more upside than Thiem and Kyrgios.

Thiem may end up having a Berdych/Ferrer like career. Kyrgios could end up like Tsonga or Delpo.
 

Kalin

Legend
Tomic - 3 titles + a GS QF
NK - 1 title + 2 GS QF

Dominic Thiem - 5 titles + GS 4R

In a sport where titles count for something I think the fairer question should be: 'When Tomic and Nick K. will achieve the same as Thiem'? ;)

As for Thomas' trolling; it's funny that once you took your head out of freefalling Rafa's rear-end you fail to recognize the talent of the one guy who actually plays very similar style to your idol's. Funny.
 
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Nonsense

Hall of Fame
Thiem seems to run out of gas easily. He'll have to improve that to improve his grand slam results.

He definitely has the game... Atleast on clay he does. I expect him to end the season around no. 8.
 

SpinToWin

Talk Tennis Guru
Thiem seems to run out of gas easily. He'll have to improve that to improve his grand slam results.

He definitely has the game... Atleast on clay he does. I expect him to end the season around no. 8.
I haven't seen that happening lately... The South American clay court swing was brutal for him, with many tough matches, yet he looked like an energiser bunny most of the time.

His crazy training with Bresnik seems to be paying off.
 

thomasferrett

Hall of Fame
As for Thomas' trolling; it's funny that once you took your head out of freefalling Rafa's rear-end you fail to recognize the talent of the one guy who actually plays very similar style to your idol's. Funny.
You seem to have mistaken me for a Nadal fan?

I detest Nadal.
 

Chanwan

G.O.A.T.
Potential? Thiem doesn't have much potential.

Kyrgios can hit the ball twice as hard as Thiem can. Again, Kyrgios has progressed further in a Masters than Thiem. Kyrgios has reached a Slam quarterfinal, and I don't see Thiem ever making it that far in a Slam in his career.

Overall, Thiem is underpowered, slow, an unathletic. I expect him to end up with a career similar to Leonardo Mayer.

Kyrgios is better, but he's not a great player himself. I predict a Janowicz-like career for him.
the great expert has spoken. as is evident to everyone who's seen their serves, Thiem's merely in the 215-220 km/h category, whereas Kyrgios easily clocks in just shy of 300 mph and regularly hits his groundies between 150 and 200 mph.
 

thomasferrett

Hall of Fame
the great expert has spoken. as is evident to everyone who's seen their serves, Thiem's merely in the 215-220 km/h category, whereas Kyrgios easily clocks in just shy of 300 mph and regularly hits his groundies between 150 and 200 mph.
Hitting hard is a combination of speed AND spin. Who is to say that Kyrgios isn't achieving so much more spin on his serves than Thiem (at the same speed of shot), that practically his serve isn't twice as big.

Just look at the 2 players side-by-side and tell me wich is the more promising athlete. Kyrgios is taller, thus has a higher contact point on every serve, and has longer leverages with which to bang down harder serves. The leverages argument applies to groundstrokes too - Kyrgios must be hitting a much bigger ball than Thiem.
 

citybert

Hall of Fame
Hitting hard is a combination of speed AND spin. Who is to say that Kyrgios isn't achieving so much more spin on his serves than Thiem (at the same speed of shot), that practically his serve isn't twice as big.

Just look at the 2 players side-by-side and tell me wich is the more promising athlete. Kyrgios is taller, thus has a higher contact point on every serve, and has longer leverages with which to bang down harder serves. The leverages argument applies to groundstrokes too - Kyrgios must be hitting a much bigger ball than Thiem.
Yes definitely on groundstrokes taller usually means longer wingspan which is more torque on his shots. Thats means more natural power
 

thomasferrett

Hall of Fame
Yes definitely on groundstrokes taller usually means longer wingspan which is more torque on his shots. Thats means more natural power
Yeah, this is why taller players are better and the new generation are getting taller and taller. 6ft 6in will soon be the norm.
 

Chanwan

G.O.A.T.
Hitting hard is a combination of speed AND spin. Who is to say that Kyrgios isn't achieving so much more spin on his serves than Thiem (at the same speed of shot), that practically his serve isn't twice as big.

Just look at the 2 players side-by-side and tell me wich is the more promising athlete. Kyrgios is taller, thus has a higher contact point on every serve, and has longer leverages with which to bang down harder serves. The leverages argument applies to groundstrokes too - Kyrgios must be hitting a much bigger ball than Thiem.
yeah, at least twice as big :D:eek:
 
I don't think that, Thiem can reach the level of top 10 Tomic or Kyrgios any time soon. In grand slams of course. But, I predict that one day Thiem, will make the quarters of a slam. Mark my words. It won't be soon though.
 

fednad

Hall of Fame
Tomic - 3 titles + a GS QF
NK - 1 title + 2 GS QF

Dominic Thiem - 5 titles + GS 4R

In a sport where titles count for something I think the fairer question should be: 'When Tomic and Nick K. will achieve the same as Thiem'? ;)

As for Thomas' trolling; it's funny that once you took your head out of freefalling Rafa's rear-end you fail to recognize the talent of the one guy who actually plays very similar style to your idol's. Funny.
how poetic that was.......Loving it !
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
I was watching Thiem vs Nadal this morning, and though Thiem does far far better than Federer with the one hander on high balls to the backhand, it still was not good enough. Nadal kept on attacking that wing as expected.

It shows how much of a liability the one hander has become in the modern game.
 

tacou

G.O.A.T.
I don't think that, Thiem can reach the level of top 10 Tomic or Kyrgios any time soon. In grand slams of course. But, I predict that one day Thiem, will make the quarters of a slam. Mark my words. It won't be soon though.
Neither Tomic or Kyrgios are top 10?
 
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