When will we get our first openly-gay male tennis player?
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Rabe87
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Clearly they're not doing it on the ATP tour either, otherwise there wouldn't be a need for a player to do just that, but there is. Kinda sad. Your argument has no merit.
AlexanderTheGreat08
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I have never experienced that with gay people , Sometimes it’s just too obvious and sometimes I don’t even find out
VaporDude95
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How many people live their lives as models? Hmmm?
r2473
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VaporDude95
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Oh yeah, I mean I have mates that are gay and you’d never guess. They like sports, cars, gym etc.
It tends to be the more flamboyant ones that wear it on their sleeve and overtly flirt and touch you, because they can.
Standaa
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I disagree, but okay. And we can only have so many gay people in show-business, statistically speaking. They are a minority after all.
VaporDude95
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I know it’s funny lol, but I’m making a point.
VaporDude95
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I also think that the perception of the LGBT community stops a lot of men coming out as gay.
The community is known for its flamboyance, parading around with d!ldos and semi-naked in front of children in the street, an abundance of drag queens and glitter, and supporting very far left political positions.
That would turn a lot of ordinary gay men off. The answer certainly isn’t just “homophobia”. It’s far from it.
The community is known for its flamboyance, parading around with d!ldos and semi-naked in front of children in the street, an abundance of drag queens and glitter, and supporting very far left political positions.
That would turn a lot of ordinary gay men off. The answer certainly isn’t just “homophobia”. It’s far from it.
Alba Barragan
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We can't start pointing out who is homosexual and who isn't just based on our personal perception, especially if we have nothing to prove it but rumors. If Richard is or isn't that's his business, not ours.
And even though I do agree with you that there are still risks when a player publicly declares himself as homosexual in sports in general, most of the tennis media don't handle it in the same way. So far, the players who have publicly accepted their homosexuality have been accepted by most fans and have been portrayed by the media as ambassadors of the LGBT community and as role models. At least on the part of the public, there's not much opposition.
parvasedpotens
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Bill Tilden?
Rabe87
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"In front of children in the street" - don't use that old excuse. Please! Think of the children! C'mon, even in tennis, the men cover up and the women come out with their panties exposed under the skimpiest outfits, where are you condemning them in front of the dear children. Hypocrisy.
VaporDude95
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The men and women on the court aren’t wearing ass-less chaps and butt-plugs.
Come on m8
Rabe87
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Which sections can you name any particular person.
VaporDude95
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It’s not a very big group that are pushing for it, but it’s sizeable enough to make an impact.
VaporDude95
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Spot on.
VaporDude95
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There’s images all over the web of mardigras.
Drag queens, glitter, ass-less chaps, leather etc etc etc.
I’m sure there’s a large number of gays that have no desire to be associated with that.
Rabe87
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In other words you have no idea what you're actually referring to, just a slightly bigoted statement on an anonymous forum to gauge a reaction. It's predictable and stupid. But guess what, we're here and queer and whilst we're parading around you'll have your work cut out for you covering the eyes of all those children you're so passionately referring to who are seeing *holds breath* semi-naked bodies allegedly in the streets! This should be our number 1 priority on earth going forward. They don't have the internet or anything whereby far worse is an easier discovery. You should form your own political party or start a movement to have the 'P' removed from GLBTI, but wait, it's not there?
VaporDude95
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This “we’re here and we’re queer” attitude from LGBT members, contributes to gay people not wanting to associate themselves with the community.
There’s numerous groups, such as nambla, that work very hard to try and normalise pedophilia. Unless I know more about your community than you do? Oops
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Deleted member 688153
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I'm all for LGB equality and for everyone being comfortable with who they are, however I also agree with others here that what these gentlemen do (and what anyone does for that matter) in their own time, in the privacy of their own lives and homes, is none of my business.
VaporDude95
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mellowyellow
Legend
For real, nobody really cares or should care and in the context of anyone's sport it's irrelevant. Making an issue out of what's generally perceived as a non issue. Hypocritical too, the famous complain about privacy yet want to clue everyone in...
Bartelby
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Sexuality is indeed private, but the fact is that the continued legality of a lot of private behaviour is still being questioned and hence it is still a live public issue.
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Deleted member 688153
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I do think a large part of the reason why there are currently no openly gay male tennis players is indeed that it is still heavily frowned upon or even illegal in some parts of the world that host the ATP Tour, and thus it would likely affect sponsorships or even their ability to play on tour year-round.
I'm really just saying that I don't think it's a problem if LGB tennis players don't wish to come out, whatever their reason. As we've said, it's their business.
Rabe87
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There's been issues surrounding that relating to Israeli and Middle-eastern players on the WTA circuit, remember Shahar Peer playing in Dubai in 2010? They had nets up to protect her from anyone who wanted to assassinate her and she had security in her Hotel. If a gay player comes out, it's only the fringe events they'll be unable to play in, if any.
Rosstour
G.O.A.T.
Tongue in cheek here...
Tennis really isn't a gay man's sport. There's no teams, very little camaraderie, no traditional locker room atmosphere, no contact, and the players aren't particularly ripped. Rafa is the only player who has any gay appeal lol, our playing physique generally isn't sexy to other dudes...skinny chests and necks, asymmetrical arms. And we're not really fun. We're bad-tempered, stuffy, aloof, OCD, self-centered, and in many cases at least somewhat introverted. Those characteristics are way more appealing to women than to men. I think out of all the sports out there, tennis is probably one of the worst ones for a single gay guy lol.
Tennis really isn't a gay man's sport. There's no teams, very little camaraderie, no traditional locker room atmosphere, no contact, and the players aren't particularly ripped. Rafa is the only player who has any gay appeal lol, our playing physique generally isn't sexy to other dudes...skinny chests and necks, asymmetrical arms. And we're not really fun. We're bad-tempered, stuffy, aloof, OCD, self-centered, and in many cases at least somewhat introverted. Those characteristics are way more appealing to women than to men. I think out of all the sports out there, tennis is probably one of the worst ones for a single gay guy lol.
Rabe87
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I think it's not a gay man's sport because it's actually quite masculine. It's very similar to boxing in that respect, to become a great tennis player at any level you need to hit the weights but also do alot of cardio, alot of cross-training, it's also as you said very selfish and singular. Overall though, it's extremely hyper-masculine and I don't think it gets that sort of recognition. Look at the WTA tour, so many masculine-esque female players who Rennae Stubbs lovingly calls "jocks" - Stosur, Barty, Kanepi etc. It doesn't mean they're same-sex attracted per se, it just means they've embraced their masculine side.
Rabe87
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Having said that the reason I got into tennis was Mary Pierce because she had awesome fashion sense, and then Venus Williams because she brought the power (which in itself is a masculine ideation), so it's the women who got me involved (and many gay male tennis players I know who all love watching the WTA) but they got me involved with their masculinity. Is this confusing?
skip1969
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We just sat through two weeks of Serena commercials about what a wonderful mom she is.
VaporDude95
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The social justice warriors would have a collective orgasm.
“I feel so SEEN and VALIDATED right now! I CAN’T EVEN!”
Aussie Darcy
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You think Rafa is the only guy with appeal? Lmao. As a gay male (oh look I just declared it and made it part of who I am which apparently is annoying according to some users), there’s a whole variety from Coric to Thiem (that ass), López, Farah, Zverev, DelPo, Dimitrov, Pouille(!), Verdasco and many more.
VaporDude95
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We just sat through two weeks of Serena commercials about what a wonderful mom she is.
Yes. And we don’t want to sit through a year of commercials about what a wonderful gay tennis player someone is.
Rabe87
Professional
And I'll actually admit I have Kerber's Ao 2016 singlet cos it was awesome and I wear it at pennant and in tourneys because it's just an awesome singlet, the men's fashion isn't quite up to par in that department. Even the craftsmanship and stitching is just sub-par compared to the women's singlets, particularly from Adidas but I've got a few Nike ones too.
Aussie Darcy
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Yeah cause it’d be so ‘awful’ for young gay kids to have an idol to look up to instead of players like Stakhovsky and Dolgopolov saying it’s unnatural and wrong and that they’d disown their child if he were gay.
Typical BS from one of the worst forumers on here.
Rabe87
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I think Martin Klizan is gorgeous, and Fucsovics (so jealous Novak had an ice bath next to him)
skip1969
G.O.A.T.
People ridiculed Jackie Robinson when he played for the Dodgers. And yet, it was still historically significant then and is even moreso now.
Just because you think it's trivial doesn't make it so.
Rabe87
Professional
Yeah cause it’d be so ‘awful’ for young gay kids to have an idol to look up to instead of players like Stakhovsky and Dolgopolov saying it’s unnatural and wrong and that they’d disown their child if he were gay.
Did Dolgopolov say that?! Wow, did not expect that from someone who's had an Australian coach before.
Rabe87
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Yeah cause it’d be so ‘awful’ for young gay kids to have an idol to look up to instead of players like Stakhovsky and Dolgopolov saying it’s unnatural and wrong and that they’d disown their child if he were gay.
Apparently children see gay men at Mardi Gras and thus gay men shouldn't be allowed to wear 'ass-chaps' at annual GLBTI festivals because kids could see, according to one conspicuous poster. But seeing Bouchard or Sharapova basically wear swimwear to the court is totally fine.
skip1969
G.O.A.T.
But how is one any more annoying than the other?
You said only gays feel compelled to exploit their sexuality. That is patently false.
Aussie Darcy
Bionic Poster
https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www...olov-insults-lgbt-community-on-social-media-/
AlexanderTheGreat08
Hall of Fame
It wouldn’t be bad if gay kids can have their gay hero or idol from a certain sport they like
Aussie Darcy
Bionic Poster
I’m a gay male and I’ve never seen Mardi Gras in person. Seen it on the news but they don’t show assless chaps and plugs. VP is just spurting his usual homophobic nonsense.
Nadalgaenger
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Nice call. You’d become an INSTANT celebrity. Ridiculous endorsement money could ensue.
Tomic, are you listening?
VaporDude95
Banned
Yeah cause it’d be so ‘awful’ for young gay kids to have an idol to look up to instead of players like Stakhovsky and Dolgopolov saying it’s unnatural and wrong and that they’d disown their child if he were gay.
One of the worst forumers here? Might wanna check yourself m8
Young gay kids have plenty of idols. Maybe if their parents were more accepting, they could look up to their mothers or fathers rather than worship a sports figure.
One of the problems with society is that people worship celebrities rather than finding themselves actual mentors.
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