Where is the best tennis city in the world?

srv vlly

Semi-Pro
I read the subtext of the question as "where would I want to move for great day-to-day tennis", and for me being prohibitively expensive kind of rules out San Diego as a serious choice.

If OK wrong about this, then I nominate ... Monaco .

I mean, just look at how many touring pros live there .

/Acey
I think you hit the nail on the head with regards to the intent of my question. What about San Diego did you find expensive? Just the overall lifestyle or the cost of tennis there is higher than elsewhere.

That being said, I wouldn't mind being in Monaco and hitting at the MCCC.
 

srv vlly

Semi-Pro
Puerto Vallarta its a good spot for a tennis vacation. Lots of americans and canadians spent the winters down there.
Where in Puerto Vallarta do you recommend playing? I was there last year and didn't see many tennis courts, although I wasn't really looking for them either.
 

vergica

Rookie
Canto del Sol its an all inclusive tennis resort down there but you can play there for a fee if not in the resort. There is a lot of tennis there. Also they have an ATP challenger sometimes in the spring.
 

tennisBIEST

Professional
I read the subtext of the question as "where would I want to move for great day-to-day tennis", and for me being prohibitively expensive kind of rules out San Diego as a serious choice.

If OK wrong about this, then I nominate ... Monaco .

I mean, just look at how many touring pros live there .

/Acey
There is an abundance of homeless people in SD...why not you?
 

AceyMan

Semi-Pro
There is an abundance of homeless people in SD...why not you?
It's very difficult to provide power to a Wilson Baiardo when you live in a box ... :cool:
What about San Diego did you find expensive?
Uhh ... everything?

Look for a ~800 ft² apartment and see what portion of your income that'll eat. Costal SoCal real estate is understandably super expensive and I doubt too many folks could afford it without major lifestyle sacrifices if they could afford it at all.

As I retell to my friends back in Georgia, "in Atlanta a new Porsche 911 gets parked in the 4-car garage of a lake house on 1.5 acres. In West Los Angeles <or San Diego, in this case> a new 911 gets curb parked on the street."

/Acey
 

muddlehead

Semi-Pro
Can we assume the question is about the best/most public courts in a city. Because any city in the world can have a super nice private club - be it Monte Carle, Melbourne, London, or San Francisco. My Four favorite public court complexes in an urban area are NYC Central Park, San Francisco Golden Gate Park, Vancouver BC Stanley Park, and, of course, San Diego Balboa Park. Winter weather a bit a of problem for NYC and Vancouver. SF's winter brings a few chilly days and a few rainout days. Leaves SD. No need to even elaborate.
 

LaZeR

Professional
... I live really close to Fair Oaks Tennis Center. The people who run it are nice and laid back, but it was built in a floodplain and is regularly unplayable. And the bugs can be terrible. ...
Yep, Fair Oaks is around 3 miles from my apartment on Glen America Drive, George W Bush lived in an exclusive neighborhood right by there. Played there a lot and liked it, took some pro lessons, and rented the ball machine. Know what ya mean about when it rains they shut down completely for the day lol But, not the other issues you mention.

What's that other tennis club, gym, etc, surrounded by apartments? That's also excellent. That's the one that offered me to join their league for free.
 

LaZeR

Professional
Puerto Vallarta its a good spot for a tennis vacation. Lots of americans and canadians spent the winters down there.
Can you elaborate - do ya mean just hotels with tennis courts, or actual, arranged/scheduled tennis vacations at specific hotspots - have any links?
 

LaZeR

Professional
Further to my post above also nominating Hawaii - AMAZING playing tennis on courts beside beaches!!
 

Brian11785

Hall of Fame
Yep, Fair Oaks is around 3 miles from my apartment on Glen America Drive, George W Bush lived in an exclusive neighborhood right by there. Played there a lot and liked it, took some pro lessons, and rented the ball machine. Know what ya mean about when it rains they shut down completely for the day lol But, not the other issues you mention.

What's that other tennis club, gym, etc, surrounded by apartments? That's also excellent. That's the one that offered me to join their league for free.
You mean The Village. I loved going there, and the pros were great (randomly ran into one I hadn't seen in years at a HS court this weekend), but they bulldozed the clubhouse and courts about three years ago to make room for more a lucrative venture (I believe taller mixed-use retail/housing.....it still isn't finished.)

Sign of the times. Tennis is dying in America.
 

LaZeR

Professional
You mean The Village. ... they bulldozed the clubhouse and courts about three years ago to make room for more a lucrative venture (I believe taller mixed-use retail/housing.....it still isn't finished.)
WTF?? :mad:Holy Sh*t what a waste, no wonder I don't hear from them anymore. That's around 20 (I think) NICE tennis courts with night lights & I was just checking places to live near there!! Can you post the new name, or links?

On another note, I was also a member of a Tennis Meetup Group in Dallas - check it out - lotsa action. We played at several spots including some high school with lotsa courts & facilities, and then went out for apres tennis food & drinks.
 
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Brian11785

Hall of Fame
WTF?? :mad:Holy Sh*t what a waste, that's around 20 (I think) NICE tennis courts with night lights & I was just checking places to live near there!! Can you post the new name, or links?

On another note, I was also a member of a Tennis Meetup Group in Dallas - check it out - lotsa action. We played at some high school again with lotsa courts & facilities.
Yep. It’d been around since the 70s.....everyone was bummed.

The whole apartment community is still called The Village. It just doesn’t have a tennis center or clubhouse anymore.
 

vergica

Rookie
Can you elaborate - do ya mean just hotels with tennis courts, or actual, arranged/scheduled tennis vacations at specific hotspots - have any links?
For the places I know, hotels with tennis clubs its a more appropriate description. They have couches on site, organize weekly round- robin for doubles, one I know has a tennis shop, match players. There are a lot of good local players.

They are open clubs with some privileges for the tourists staying at the respective hotels.
 

srv vlly

Semi-Pro
Can we assume the question is about the best/most public courts in a city. Because any city in the world can have a super nice private club - be it Monte Carle, Melbourne, London, or San Francisco. My Four favorite public court complexes in an urban area are NYC Central Park, San Francisco Golden Gate Park, Vancouver BC Stanley Park, and, of course, San Diego Balboa Park. Winter weather a bit a of problem for NYC and Vancouver. SF's winter brings a few chilly days and a few rainout days. Leaves SD. No need to even elaborate.
How do you think San Diego compares to Atlanta?

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LaZeR

Professional
I read the subtext of the question as "where would I want to move for great day-to-day tennis", and for me being prohibitively expensive kind of rules out San Diego as a serious choice. If I'm wrong about this, then I nominate ... Monaco . I mean, just look at how many touring pros live there.
Sure about that?? Thought living in Monaco is wayyyyyy more expensive than San Diego.

The touring pros don't live in Monaco for the tennis.
Sure about that?? I THINK many tennis pro bio's state Monaco as their residence.
 

AceyMan

Semi-Pro
It's your written english that's crappy, and obviously NOT your first language, or perhaps you might be a tad illiterate.
Lick my netherregions, troll.

/Acey

p.s. it's a word: look it up.

p.p.s troll, I meant. I know you won't know the long one.

p.p.p.s. I have read more writing and grammar books than professional editors I know.
 
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Deleted member 768841

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From where I’ve been San Jose has had some pretty good tennis, lots of courts around the city and a few academies and places to learn. Plus there are quite a few tennis shops in San Jose, I wish I could move!
 

LaZeR

Professional
p.p.p.s. I have read more writing and grammar books than professional editors I know.
Had already abandoned this thread, but WAS previously gonna comment that the resident scholar in English grammar incorrectly ordered his phrasing - as emphasized - resulting in an awkward sentence, which another poster pointed out correctly...
What are some of your favorite books on grammar & writing?
pss >>> guess "them" "writing and grammar books" sure worked their charm. :cool:
 
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Dartagnan64

G.O.A.T.
I'd say Coachella Valley (although more a collection of hamlets than a true city). Tennis courts everywhere in and out of resorts. Plenty of year round sunshine. Great weather from October to May. Acceptable morning weather in June and Sept. A world class tennis tournament at Indian Wells in March.
 

Villain

Professional
I'd say Coachella Valley (although more a collection of hamlets than a true city). Tennis courts everywhere in and out of resorts. Plenty of year round sunshine. Great weather from October to May. Acceptable morning weather in June and Sept. A world class tennis tournament at Indian Wells in March.
I agree it is nice for tennis, but you have to be able to handle some extremely dry weather.
 

sredna42

Hall of Fame
Melbourne is great, but while there are alot of clubs, many many of them are struggling now, with not many young members, most members elderly who have been there for 20 years or whatever. Courts and fences looking tattered. etc.

Summer is OK, but you can get spells of weather where it is hotter than the surface of Venus. And of course it rains all the time. And there is a cold wet prevailing SW wind, which is a prevailing scorching northerly in summer.

Not many indoor venues for tennis either aside from Melbourne Park. There's few little private ones in the suburbs.
 

CNButts

New User
Sure about that?? Thought living in Monaco is wayyyyyy more expensive than San Diego.

Sure about that?? I THINK many tennis pro bio's state Monaco as their residence.
I think it is for the lack of taxes that they live there and not to do with tennis.
 

onehandbh

Legend
Had already abandoned this thread, but WAS previously gonna comment that the resident scholar in English grammar incorrectly ordered his phrasing - as emphasized - resulting in an awkward sentence, which another poster pointed out correctly... pss >>> guess "them" "writing and grammar books" sure worked their charm. :cool:
I was not trying to correct his grammar. Just honestly asking a question as I am always interested in learning more about grammar.
 

Bjorn.Borg

New User
I would say Adelaide is a lovely city for tennis, loads of public courts, its a 20mins city so travelling from one end to other is easier that Melbourne and Brisbane. Its drier in Adelaide, so loads of summer grasscourt tennis, infact there is more grass court tennis over summer in Adelaide than anything in England. Shifting countries, Hyderabad in India is a lovely city for Tennis, loads of tennis academies and few select clubs too and hiring a clay court for an hour is $4 and about $8 for a hard court. Seeking out a decent hitting partner / junior academy coach is about $5-$6 an hour.
 

WildVolley

Legend
I'd say Coachella Valley (although more a collection of hamlets than a true city). Tennis courts everywhere in and out of resorts. Plenty of year round sunshine. Great weather from October to May. Acceptable morning weather in June and Sept. A world class tennis tournament at Indian Wells in March.
Coachella Valley is great now in the winter, but that is a brutal desert during the summer. So if you're wealthy enough it could be part of living a great tennis lifestyle.

San Diego's climate still beats Coachella Valley's. The Pacific ocean keeps us temperate during the summer, and usually our winters aren't bad. Yesterday and today (January 17th) it has been in the high 70s F along the coast and sunny with almost no wind. That's warmer than usual, but I've played outdoors in a tank top or no shirt in January many times. Played almost four hours of doubles yesterday outdoors without a mask, and remembered why I'm still willing to put up with Californian taxes and laws.
 

nyta2

Professional
need a poll!
based on reading/exp, my votes would be:
1. atlanta... the scene sounds incredible... lots of people to play, weather decent (though a bit humid at times)
2. major cities in CA (san fran area, la, san diego)... great temps, lots of courts, and seems like a very large community of players

eyeing atlanta as a great place to retire :p
 

bobleenov1963

Hall of Fame
need a poll!
based on reading/exp, my votes would be:
1. atlanta... the scene sounds incredible... lots of people to play, weather decent (though a bit humid at times)
2. major cities in CA (san fran area, la, san diego)... great temps, lots of courts, and seems like a very large community of players

eyeing atlanta as a great place to retire :p
the best place is probably Cocoa beach between November and April. It is about an hour from Orlando. You can find/pay very good tennis partners to hit with you. Plenty of them here in FL, especially between November and April. Stay away from FL in the summer.
 

jhick

Hall of Fame
Used to be the only city in the world with tennis courts on top of the convention center!
Back a number of years ago, the Minneapolis athletic club used to have a bubble on top of a parking ramp. I remember playing a USTA match there (I think it was in the late 90's). Minneapolis also has their annual aquatennial tennis tournament downtown where they lay down sport court and stands and surround it with netting. Our own Tony Larson has won the tournament in multiple years. It's an interesting view when a lob goes up and all you see are big tall skyscrapers.
 

J_Ring

New User
When were you there? I've been to many places around the world and I have to say Bariloche is in my top 3. Did you also visit and stay at the Llao Llao hotel in Bariloche? The view there is unlike anything I've ever seen in my life. The women there are absolutely beautiful and educated too. My son absolutely loves Bariloche. He is supposed to go back there soon, as soon as covid-19 is under control, and this time he is much better prepared. He can speak Spanish, know how to do the tango and he will bring his Martin D-42 guitar with him. He will stay at the Arelauquen polo club. Bariloche is like a hidden gem of South America.
Too bad Argentina is turning into Venezuela.
 

socallefty

Legend
I think 350 days of sunshine with very little rain, very few 100 degree days, no days/nights with freezing temperatures, not much humidity etc. is a good start. Combine it with an abundance of well-maintained hard courts in both public parks and private clubs surrounded by palm tree views and you are getting close to tennis paradise. I nominate Southern California and in particular the Orange County coast where we can surf right after our tennis match or go relax on great beaches.

Since we have a good history of solid ex-pro and college players, there are quite a few good tennis coaches and training academies also. The only fly in the ointment that prevents it from being perfect for tennis is the lack of good pro tournaments - for that, we have to drive two hours to the Indian Wells BNP Paribas Open in the Palm Desert area inland or settle for local Futures/Challenger tournaments.
 

Torque

New User
In Los Angeles the USTA leagues are very active- you can play LA, Beach Cities, San Gabriel Valley and more. You can play “constantly”. There are multiple tournaments every weekend - too many since many don’t fill out their draws. I have played the Michael Chang down in Irvine- it draws big- great tournament. I have met all kinds on the courts as well and consequently I have played on private grass and red clay courts. In general, LA has a great tennis scene whether you want league play, country club play or tournament play.
 

pointbreak

New User
Croatia is the best value Ive seen, Makarska, great pricing and insane scenery and courts.

Hawaii was amazing, great courts at the Hilton and the free courts in the parks was good enough.

Melbourne was great, mostly spent my time at the Open

Brisbane was such a nice event, I lived at the Gold Coast and the Southport courts were great but nota tennis city.
 

Kevin T

Hall of Fame
Having lived there for 7+ years, I agree that San Diego tops anywhere I can think of. Great public and private options throughout the county, some great tennis shops, unbeatable weather...home of the Chargers! :)

I'll also put a vote in for Charleston, SC. I lived there for nearly 5 years, prior to moving to San Diego. Yes, summers are humid and sweaty but early morning tennis is doable. The rest of the year is fantastic. Majority of apartment/condo complexes have courts and a good number of public courts. Multiple fantastic private clubs from Isle of Palms to Daniel Island to Kiawah. Murrell's Inlet/Myrtle Beach is 90 minutes up the road and Hilton Head is 2 hours down the road-tons and tons of tennis academies and resorts with great tennis shops. During my research residency, I would often play on the rooftop courts of the MUSC wellness center during the day and my local parks for leagues at night. The real estate is pricey but nowhere near SoCal prices and the Atlantic ocean sure is warmer. :)
 

bobleenov1963

Hall of Fame
Having lived there for 7+ years, I agree that San Diego tops anywhere I can think of. Great public and private options throughout the county, some great tennis shops, unbeatable weather...home of the Chargers! :)

I'll also put a vote in for Charleston, SC. I lived there for nearly 5 years, prior to moving to San Diego. Yes, summers are humid and sweaty but early morning tennis is doable. The rest of the year is fantastic. Majority of apartment/condo complexes have courts and a good number of public courts. Multiple fantastic private clubs from Isle of Palms to Daniel Island to Kiawah. Murrell's Inlet/Myrtle Beach is 90 minutes up the road and Hilton Head is 2 hours down the road-tons and tons of tennis academies and resorts with great tennis shops. During my research residency, I would often play on the rooftop courts of the MUSC wellness center during the day and my local parks for leagues at night. The real estate is pricey but nowhere near SoCal prices and the Atlantic ocean sure is warmer. :)
San Diego, yes 100% but not Charleston SC. Charleston is very prone to hurricane and flooding in the next twenty years. Charleston barely escaped hurricane Dorian in 2019 and yet part of the city was flooded. It also got hit by hurricane Hugo in 1989. Thanks but no thanks.
 

socallefty

Legend
I agree that San Diego tops anywhere I can think of. Great public and private options throughout the county, some great tennis shops, unbeatable weather...home of the Chargers! :)
The Chargers have played in Los Angeles since 2017?? Which was also their original home in their first year in 1960.
 

Kevin T

Hall of Fame
The Chargers have played in Los Angeles since 2017?? Which was also their original home in their first year in 1960.
Blasphemy!! As a life-long Chargers fan, we prefer to live in an alternate reality and still call them the San Diego Chargers. :) I throw up a bit in my mouth every time I say or hear 'LA Chargers'.
 

Kevin T

Hall of Fame
San Diego, yes 100% but not Charleston SC. Charleston is very prone to hurricane and flooding in the next twenty years. Charleston barely escaped hurricane Dorian in 2019 and yet part of the city was flooded. It also got hit by hurricane Hugo in 1989. Thanks but no thanks.
Every location comes with some form of risk. The same can be said for any of the FL locations. San Diego will be in danger of being burned to a crisp by worsening wild fires. The 2007 fires came right up to I5. My hospital installed air scrubbers with plastic tarps at the entrance for a couple of weeks...in La Jolla/Torrey Pines of all places.
 
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ALTA has 80,000 players year round. Also there are 3 other active leagues: USTA, T2 and Ultimate. Very easy to find people and/or teams to play with. Atlanta is just lucky to have so many courts. I'd say at least 50% of neighborhoods and apartment complexes have courts. Then you have numerous public tennis parks/facilities and then the private clubs. Playing ALTA in winter is cold, but most people still play.
I lived in the Atlanta area for five years before moving back north. I played a ton of tennis there. I was in both the USTA and K Swiss leagues. It was easy to find courts where I lived on the south side of town (Henry county). Finding a league or hitting partners was a sinche. I remember when Agassi came to play, but I missed it. I should have seen it, but I think he lost early (2000 or 2001).

The doubles scene is very popular, which is not my cup of tea. Also the heat down there is oppressive. I remember that it was tough to play in the summers before 7 p.m. due to the heat. Even then it was tough.

To answer the thread question, In terms of tennis, yes, there is plenty of it in that town along with the downtown nightlife if you are young and single. In my opinion it is not an ideal place to settle down and raise a family due to high housing costs and horrible traffic.

Like the saying goes, "It's a good place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there."
 
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13GATOSNEGROS

Professional
I love the basque-coast in spain, they have pelota-walls/courts in each and every village. People are relaxed enough, to accept foreign old men - with even older raquetas - who (mis)use their holy grounds.
You can surf there when its ON, and on flat days you play tennis ... and get invited to play pelota and drink heavy, red wine.
 
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