I have a buddy who lived in Melbourne for a few years. He always said there was good tennis down there. I've never been there myself, but really want to check out the Aus open.Not a world traveler but Melbourne is really a great tennis city. So many suburban courts and tennis clubs. The city itself is beautiful, the people are wonderful, the food culture is diverse, the weather is tennis friendly (apart from the unpredictable rain). All year round tennis is given. I loved Melbourne, I wish I could move there.
And of course, home of the Australian Open, so you get to see the world best players.
Used to be the only city in the world with tennis courts on top of the convention center!San Diego.
Used to be the only city in the world with tennis courts on top of the convention center!
I used to play on those convention center courts, which belonged to the Marriott, when I visited. There were both clay and hard. Not sure why they closed them? Maybe the locals know?What happened to them?
Balboa park has one of the best public park clubs in the world. San Diego has a better climate than Atlanta for tennis. You can play outdoors year round in comfort in San Diego.
The only problems with San Diego is that I don't think many grass courts are available (or red clay). And ... the real estate prices are outrageously expensive.
Way too expensive and the weather makes it tough.London. Melbournes a good shout but it’s far too hot
With the weather, every single indoor court facility I’ve been to has been fantastic. Plus there’s the grass courts. When the weathers good, it’s perfect. When it’s not, go indoors. Money is a fair issue though. Very expensive.Way too expensive and the weather makes it tough.
Will give you a tip: get there a week earlier, and you can even attend the qualifier matches for free and possibly catch some big names practising in the centre court without the crowd!I have a buddy who lived in Melbourne for a few years. He always said there was good tennis down there. I've never been there myself, but really want to check out the Aus open.
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I think the weather stops me from thinking of London as a great tennis city. I'm sure there are some fantastic clubs, but for me, the best tennis city would allow for outdoor play most of the year.London. Melbournes a good shout but it’s far too hot
Fair enough. I love indoors so no issue for me. For me, the perfect city weather would have to hover around 15 degrees for a good portion of the year, and never rain. Is there any such place?I think the weather stops me from thinking of London as a great tennis city. I'm sure there are some fantastic clubs, but for me, the best tennis city would allow for outdoor play most of the year.
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From my experience, that might be San Diego. I'm not sure how the tennis community is, but the weather is damn near perfect!Fair enough. I love indoors so no issue for me. For me, the perfect city weather would have to hover around 15 degrees for a good portion of the year, and never rain. Is there any such place?
I heard it's too popular, can't get a court easilyIn the US, I think you have to consider Atlanta based on the number of courts, temperate climate and the ALTA tennis scene.
I have heard many great things about the tennis scene in Atlanta. In addition, Atlanta has an ATP 250 tournament, college tennis at GA Tech. Good choice for sure.In the US, I think you have to consider Atlanta based on the number of courts, temperate climate and the ALTA tennis scene.
In the US, I think you have to consider Atlanta based on the number of courts, temperate climate and the ALTA tennis scene.
I heard it's too popular, can't get a court easily
I did some horseback riding there, but didn’t get to the tennis courts.The best place for outdoor tennis is located in Bariloche Argentina between October and late March, bar none. The food, the weather, the women and tennis & golf. The best place to be. Arelaquen polo club & golf club in Bariloche has two tennis courts that are surrounded by mountain and the view is just unbelievable. It is also the best time to be in Argentina because inflation is rampant there. The US dollar can go a very long way.
I did some horseback riding there, but didn’t get to the tennis courts.
I visited in 2013. I used to go to BA for business a lot, and I always brought the wife and did a side trip each time. That time, we flew to peninsula Valdez to check out the wildlife, but after a couple of days there, we spontaneously roadtripped across the desert toward the Andes. We ended up at Bariloche. And yes, we stayed at Llao Llao.When were you there? I've been to many places around the world and I have to say Bariloche is in my top 3. Did you also visit and stay at the Llao Llao hotel in Bariloche? The view there is unlike anything I've ever seen in my life. The women there are absolutely beautiful and educated too. My son absolutely loves Bariloche. He is supposed to go back there soon, as soon as covid-19 is under control, and this time he is much better prepared. He can speak Spanish, know how to do the tango and he will bring his Martin D-42 guitar with him. He will stay at the Arelauquen polo club. Bariloche is like a hidden gem of South America.
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Not a world traveler but Melbourne is really a great tennis city. So many suburban courts and tennis clubs. The city itself is beautiful, the people are wonderful, the food culture is diverse, the weather is tennis friendly (apart from the unpredictable rain). All year round tennis is given. I loved Melbourne, I wish I could move there.
And of course, home of the Australian Open, so you get to see the world best players.
Have you seen the infomercial with Estaban? He is supposedly a legendary guitar player. Surely, a guitar he endorses must be amazing.
Yes, the quick temper weather and the arctic wind during winter are the only draw back for me. But the Melbourne legging scenes during those chilly days are certainly a bonusI love the tennis culture and facilities in Melbourne, but the weather is truly sh1t. Winter is too cold and when the wind is out of the north, summer can get uncomfortable too. Wind is often a problem and as the saying goes, "If you don't like the weather in Melbourne, just wait a few minutes". I played matches there where I swear the season has changed at least 3 times.
Brisbane and to a lesser extent Sydney are far better when it comes to weather, but lack decent facilities .. particularly grass courts.
Yes, the quick temper weather and the arctic wind during winter are the only draw back for me. But the Melbourne legging scenes during those chilly days are certainly a bonus
I like Brisbane as well, was there for two years. Everything within the 20km city radius are glorious. Your river scenes are nicer and much more livelier than our Sydney harbour (personal opinion of course).
My only problem with Brisbane was the heat and the extent of it. For the few summer months, you really feel the oven heat above your head and I couldn’t go outside at all. I couldn’t imagine playing tennis during that few months.
Having said that, the Brisbane Open is a gem. You guys got much better players than Sydney but I think the ATP Cup has changed that pre-AO dynamic now. I love the Brisbane International, you can get really close to the players.
In the US, I think you have to consider Atlanta based on the number of courts, temperate climate and the ALTA tennis scene.
Based on experience: 1) agree with the Atlanta, GA tennis scene, 2) Los Angeles, CA is great coz not only can you find players every day there's tons of free public courts in great condition with night lights, and 3) Dallas, TX also is pretty good - courts get packed - and less rednecks than most of Texas.ALTA has 80,000 players year round. Also there are 3 other active leagues: USTA, T2 and Ultimate. Very easy to find people and/or teams to play with. Atlanta is just lucky to have so many courts. I'd say at least 50% of neighborhoods and apartment complexes have courts. Then you have numerous public tennis parks/facilities and then the private clubs. Playing ALTA in winter is cold, but most people still play.
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Based on experience: 1) agree with the Atlanta, GA tennis scene, 2) Los Angeles, CA is great coz not only can you find players every day there's tons of free public courts in great condition with night lights, and 3) Dallas, TX also is pretty good - courts get packed - and less rednecks than most of Texas.
Just wanna comment that OPPOSITE to all of the above Tampa, FL friggin SUX for tennis.
OK so what's the final verdict - is Atlanta the WINNER??
I would agree with this. The availability of tennis courts, weather that allows for year-round play, and I would add, the availability of players and the overall tennis scene.I'm thinking the answer lies in availability + weather.
In the US, there is no close second to San Diego if the requirement is outdoor tennis.
Where exactly in Dallas do you live? Don't mean to number them as top 1-2-3, was just organizing my cities of experience. I was referring to my hood in Dallas, around 7 miles north of downtown, with around a 5 mile radius. Similar to Los Angeles, you can always find someone to play in Dallas. Several clubs kept requesting me to join their leagues via email, phone calls, and one even offered that I didn't have to pay. WHERE ELSE does THAT happen?? And, the Dallas Apres Tennis Social Scene is also great - better than LA - there's lotsa hot tennis girls & often went out for drinks after!!Dallas resident here. I am not sure I'd put us in the top 3. Some great country club/private club facilities, but the public facilities, at least in Dallas proper, are lacking. Most of the park courts are either, as you say, always packed or their chain link fence nets that still get ruined by soccer players.
I'm around 10 miles east-south of downtown Tampa, add 1 mile for Harbour Island, there's not much of a tennis scene at all, and tennis is not at all vibrant. We've discussed this among some players and no one can figure it out. In LA & Dallas you can always find someone to play, joining a club isn't at all necessary, and the same applies to Atlanta. In greater Tampa people are so spread out, the bridges to Clearwater & St Pete's are SO LONG that after a while they get tiring, and many people live 20 miles north, or east, so they stick to their hoods. It seems like in Tampa you MUST join a club to find players &/or be able to play, and then make a long trip to get there (or move closer to a club). Oh ya and public courts are like ghetto asphalt.I'm curious what the problem with Tampa is. I play in a tournament on Harbour Island every year that I love. But I don't know much about the tennis there outside that. They have a public clay facility, which is more than you can say for Dallas.
Where exactly in Dallas do you live? Don't mean to number them as top 1-2-3, was just organizing my cities of experience. I was referring to my hood in Dallas, around 7 miles north of downtown, with around a 5 mile radius. Similar to Los Angeles, you can always find someone to play in Dallas. Several clubs kept requesting me to join their leagues via email, phone calls, and one even offered that I didn't have to pay. WHERE ELSE does THAT happen?? And, the Dallas Apres Tennis Social Scene is also great - better than LA - there's lotsa hot tennis girls & often went out for drinks after!!
I'm around 10 miles east-south of downtown Tampa, add 1 mile for Harbour Island, there's not much of a tennis scene at all, and tennis is not at all vibrant. We've discussed this among some players and no one can figure it out. In LA & Dallas you can always find someone to play, joining a club isn't at all necessary, and the same applies to Atlanta. In greater Tampa people are so spread out, the bridges to Clearwater & St Pete's are SO LONG that after a while they get tiring, and many people live 20 miles north, or east, so they stick to their hoods. It seems like in Tampa you MUST join a club to find players &/or be able to play, and then make a long trip to get there (or move closer to a club). Oh ya and public courts are like ghetto asphalt.
Tennis is important to me on many levels. If Tampa doesn't pick up might move to Atlanta or back to Dallas. San Diego and LA housing costs are ridiculously outrageous. But Tampa has excellent winter weather - better than all other cities including San Diego - and SO CHEAP that you can live like a king and still save tons of moola $$$$ for future reference. A big, brand new $200k house in Tampa costs around $1.5 MILLION in LA, close to that in San Diego, and if you pay that much Property Taxes alone are around $10k per year there.
Aren't Clay courts pretty much rare all over USA & Canada? They're also expensive to maintain in terms of care & watering etc.When I was visiting Tampa and Saint Pete I was amazed at how nice the public clay court facilities are, not sure which one I played at in Tampa but it was near a hospital and right on the waterfront. Dallas is pretty good, but lacking clay courts which are nice when you get older. Here is Austin clay courts are extremely rare, only available at private clubs.
"Nobody goes there anymore—it's too crowded."I heard it's too popular, can't get a court easily
I think they aren't as rare in Florida and some areas of the South where they get a lot of rain. There are some clay courts on the east coast as well as the northeast.Aren't Clay courts pretty much rare all over USA & Canada? They're also expensive to maintain in terms of care & watering etc.
Where exactly in Dallas do you live? Don't mean to number them as top 1-2-3, was just organizing my cities of experience. I was referring to my hood in Dallas, around 7 miles north of downtown, with around a 5 mile radius. Similar to Los Angeles, you can always find someone to play in Dallas. Several clubs kept requesting me to join their leagues via email, phone calls, and one even offered that I didn't have to pay. WHERE ELSE does THAT happen?? And, the Dallas Apres Tennis Social Scene is also great - better than LA - there's lotsa hot tennis girls & often went out for drinks after!!
San Diego by a landslide(oops!)
I read the subtext of the question as "where would I want to move for great day-to-day tennis", and for me being prohibitively expensive kind of rules out San Diego as a serious choice.
If OK wrong about this, then I nominate ... Monaco .
I mean, just look at how many touring pros live there .
/Acey