Which ability makes a better server?

Which ability makes a better server?

  • Ability to serve fast balls

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  • Ability to make the serve hard to read

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Koaske

Rookie
Which makes a better server , ability to have a perfect disguise for serve so that it's very hard to read, or the ability to serve very fast serves?
 

Grimjack

Banned
Depends on the level you're playing. Perfect disguise with creampuff serves is as useless as teats on a bull moose. Give me easy-to-read 130mph bombs over crafty 40mph ones every time.

But if I've got to stake my life's savings on a pro matchup, give me the guy whose 115 mph serve is unreadable over the guy whose 135 comes right up the pike every time.
 

@wright

Hall of Fame
A fast ball can be very hard to read, too. The two are not mutually exclusive, so this question really cannot be answered. Federer is the guy serving 115 mph aces, but he gets many of his serves returned, even though his disguise is very good. Roddick is serving bombs that aren't necessarily that great in disguise, but he is hitting it so damn hard, most guys on tour have trouble getting them back in play at all. When these two play each other, Federer's disguise beats Roddick's pace every time. On the other hand, Federer's serves aren't "weak" by any means. You can't have one and not the other.
 

Grimjack

Banned
Koaske said:
Oh , should've said that I meant pro level , this is a pro player discussion section after all.
Well, my extreme example was a way of pointing out that there's not really a right answer to this. Both things exist on a sliding scale. Ideally, you want to have plenty of both pace and disguise. But it's hard to value them independently. I'll take disguise over pace for a deficit of 5 mph (assuming all else is equal -- placement, spin, etc.), for sure. Probably for 10 mph. For 15 mph? Harder to say. For 30 mph? I'd probably take speed, then.

Since these things don't exist in a vacuum, it's kind of hard to analyze.
 

Talent

Rookie
I think the ideal situation is when you have a good mix of both. You can lean on one ability depending on what type of serve you want to hit. Grimjack and @wright pretty much summed it all up.
 
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