Well, my extreme example was a way of pointing out that there's not really a right answer to this. Both things exist on a sliding scale. Ideally, you want to have plenty of both pace and disguise. But it's hard to value them independently. I'll take disguise over pace for a deficit of 5 mph (assuming all else is equal -- placement, spin, etc.), for sure. Probably for 10 mph. For 15 mph? Harder to say. For 30 mph? I'd probably take speed, then.Koaske said:Oh , should've said that I meant pro level , this is a pro player discussion section after all.