Which company has the best QC?

jjs891

Semi-Pro
"Recently a Speed MP arrived so warped I noticed it the moment I took it from the TW shipping box. The guy doing the packing must have thought curved frames are standard! "

TimothyO

Any explanation from TW as to what happened?
 
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TimothyO

Hall of Fame
"Recently a Speed MP arrived so warped I noticed it the moment I took it from the TW shipping box. The guy doing the packing must have thought curved frames are standard! "

TimothyO

Any explanation from TW as to what happened?
Nope. In fact I had indicated on the return form they should send a replacement. When no replacement arrived I called to check order status...

When we learned the fate of the warped racquet the TW clerk and I had the same reation: holy bat poop! Her computer showed the frame as "Returned to Sock". :shock:

She said that as soon as the got off the phone she'd hunt down the warped frame and the doofus who put it back in stock.
 

tennis-kid

Rookie
Some of my stock M-Fil 200's



Racquet weights from left to right*:
1. 344g
2. 344g
3. 342g
4. 344g
5. 343g
6. 346g
7. 344g

*All racquets measured with the handle still wrapped in plastic which includes
the Dunlop vibration dampener and the new racquet cardboard inset that comes in the hoop.
That is pretty much consistant
 
Babolat, Volkl, Head, and Yonex come out of the same factory in Fujian. The differences in QC is due to what these individual companies pay to the manufacturer. Just as Mattel ordered "bright red paint", but didn't want to pay more for the better quality, got bright red paint with lead in it to make it bright, instead of the more expensive bright red paint without the lead.

You get what you pay for!
 

vsbabolat

G.O.A.T.
Babolat, Volkl, Head, and Yonex come out of the same factory in Fujian. The differences in QC is due to what these individual companies pay to the manufacturer. Just as Mattel ordered "bright red paint", but didn't want to pay more for the better quality, got bright red paint with lead in it to make it bright, instead of the more expensive bright red paint without the lead.

You get what you pay for!
You keep forgetting that Yonex's top end and most popular racquets come out of their own factory in Japan.:) So if you are interested in a Yonex racquets like the Vcore 100s, Vore95D, and Vore98D rest assured that those frames were all made in Japan.:)
 
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martini1

Hall of Fame
To me the "made in Japan" label is a little bit over rated. Yonex still got stick to stick variation in terms of weight and balance. The cosmetic finish is nice though, I'll give them that. But Prince also got nice pj and they are made in China.
 

martini1

Hall of Fame
These companies all sell racquets that are similarly priced. I imagine we should expect the same level of quality?
Not when u have Wilson paying billions to Roger or Babo paying Rafa as their poster boy. Usually smaller companies with good engineers and a more modest marketing budget *should* put a little more into their products. However it is not universally true. And smaller companies don't get enough sales to get it going.
 
Hmm, I hjave 3 bio 200s and they are almost identical, I may have been lucky, though...

I guess you can only refer to your own experiences, and mine have been positive.

The HEAD Speed MPs I had before were quite different, one was a good 10g heavier than the other...

Less said about Wilson the better (and the paint!)
 

origmarm

Hall of Fame
I think this whole "made in Japan" thing is really over-rated. I rate Yonex as much as the next guy for quality but I couldn't care less where they make it, as long as they do it properly.
 

BC1

Professional
As far as my experience goes, Babolat, Dunlop and Head have always been right on Specwise. I've purchased 6 Babolats all at different times from TW and a local retailer (pure storms, pure drives, and aeros) all have exactly matched their published spec weight - Maybe just good luck on my part. The only brand I've noticed significant weight and balance differences is Wilson. As far as quality paint goes (from best to worst in my experience) Head, Dunlop, then Wilson and Babolat about equal.
 

AirK

Rookie
Just got my second Head YTPP, a year after the first. Had a small circular sticker with Q/C E printed on it. Any significance? Haven't had a chance to weigh them yet
 

peterparker

New User
Just acquired a pair of Yonex VCT89 with high expectations of Yonex QC. Coming from Wilson Blade 93 (2013). Not representative of current QC but from a previous generation for both manufacturers.

The Wilson frames (four of them) are 306g unstrung w/o grip with variance of 1g; stock specs are supposed to be 324g.

The Yonex frames average (two of them) are 318g and 322g unstrung w/o grip (variance of 4g); stock specs are supposed to be 325g.

Neither are great in terms of QC. The Wilsons, although consistent, are ~5g under spec (~12g for stock grip). The Yonex are 4g and 8g over spec (~11g for stock grip) with big variance; this was really disappointing. Given that the manufacturer specs for these frames were so close, I was not expecting a 12+ gram difference between them.
 

Marcin

Rookie
I would say Yonex.
Yonex. Made in Japan. Enough said.
Yonex. I've owned three different frames from them. Each time I bought 3 examples from three different sources and they all weighed exactly the same.
Yonex - i don't use them anymore but they were perfecto!
yonex for life
The Wimbledon match has traumatized him and not only that, it really helps other players relax when playing him. It's always easier mentally to play someone who is a choker.
I would say...Yonex :)
 

Crocodile

Hall of Fame
Pacific racquets are great but you can't get them and the company doesn't want to sell their racquets or return emails.
 
Volkl very good. I was buying two VFeel V1 MP in 4 5/8. Weighed five racquets - four were exactly on spec. The fifth was around 10 grams heavier.
 

markwillplay

Hall of Fame
I am sure this has been explained before but I don’t understand the issue. I picture all racquets being made the exact same for a particular model. Why are they so different. I understand about guitars because each piece of wood is different and each tree is different, but it seems like to me if you’re making something out of graphite you should be able to dial it in. I’m not really finding fault I’m just curious as to why some rackets have a different balance in a different way when they’re supposed to be the same. I don’t understand the process of making them I guess. I have like six old max 200 gees and they are all different. So I don’t think quality control is new.
 

markwillplay

Hall of Fame
I will say that of all the frames I have tried in the last few years the prince phantom 93’s I had, and I had four of them, or damn near identical. The prince TT 100 P that I have played with, and I have six of those are not quite as close. I always just match mine to the heaviest with lid.
 
I am sure this has been explained before but I don’t understand the issue. I picture all racquets being made the exact same for a particular model. Why are they so different. I understand about guitars because each piece of wood is different and each tree is different, but it seems like to me if you’re making something out of graphite you should be able to dial it in. I’m not really finding fault I’m just curious as to why some rackets have a different balance in a different way when they’re supposed to be the same. I don’t understand the process of making them I guess. I have like six old max 200 gees and they are all different. So I don’t think quality control is new.
Well it’s a matter of how the mold is filled in. Each time a racquet is made you have to arrange the material (carbon fiber, resin, other composite materials) all over again, and just little shifts in how much material is coaxed into a spot can noticeably affect the final weight and balance of the frame.


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