Which country will win the World Cup?

Which country will win the World Cup?

  • Brazil +251

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • England +797

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Germany +808

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Argentina +840

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Italy +913

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • France +1375

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Netherlands +1484

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Spain +1625

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Portugal +2350

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Czech Republic +3300

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
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Condoleezza

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KBalla08 said:
brazil should be able to defeat ghana pretty easily, then get the winner of spain and france, and whoever it is they should beat... and then theyd get either england or portugal, i think england, then germany in the final... sorry, i like argentina alot, but i think germany is just better right now. so what im trying to say is, brazil will win lol
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I don't think Ghana will be a push-over.
And Portugal would be favourite against England, IMO.
Lampard and Gerrard seem to be tired after a grueling season, Owen is out, Rooney not fully fit yet.

Condi
 
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swiss and ukraine, 2 close calls, both crossbars. first for ukraine, diving header hits the ground in the 6 yard box, bounces up, hits the crossbar and flies away. for the swiss, freekick from i think it was 25-30 yards (wasnt paying much attention, it was lunch time :D), rattles the bottom of the crossbar right beside where the crossbar and post touch
 
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peter said:
I'm sorry - I definitely don't agree. I've too have seen that many times now, both in slow motion and in realtime - he very deliberately falls down by himself.
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Most experts in the German TV (some of them former WC winners) said the penalty was OK ....

Condi
 
peter

peter

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Condoleezza said:
I don't think it was a faker's dive by the Italian player. He really stumbled over Neil. Otherwise he would have been through and alone in front of the goalkeeper with a great opportunity to score. So "in dubio pro reo" - no dive.

BTW, the sending-off of Materazzi was no red card. So Italy was cheated here.
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I just watched both the situations again, and this time it's even more obvious that he (the Italian player) definitely did not even stumble. Notice how he first puts down his foot, and then changes his mind and lifts it up again so that he'll fall down nicely.

As the the red card - that was *definitely* a red card. The rules are dead clear about that - if you go into a situation with both you feet first and with straight legs against another player - then it's a red card automatically. Stupid move by Materazzi.
 
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peter said:
I just watched both the situations again, and this time it's even more obvious that he (the Italian player) definitely did not even stumble. Notice how he first puts down his foot, and then changes his mind and lifts it up again so that he'll fall down nicely.

As the the red card - that was *definitely* a red card. The rules are dead clear about that - if you go into a situation with both you feet first and with straight legs against another player - then it's a red card automatically. Stupid move by Materazzi.
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Some German WC winners think otherwise.
Red card laughable. Penalty probably OK.
But what the hell do they know ....

Condi
 
malakas

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This match doesn't seem to end...:(
It goes straight to penalties..and that would be the most interesting that could happen in this match!:(
 
Shabazza

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Condoleezza said:
Some German WC winners think otherwise.
Red card laughable. Penalty probably OK.
But what the hell do they know ....

Condi
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lol what were you watching - they don't agree with the penalty and agreed with the red cart at least on ZDF - and I agree with them - this was no penalty (esp. in the last sec) and a yellow card could've been given as well...

YEAHHH - Schevchenko screwd up the first penalty!!!!
OMG Switzerland as well
They can't get a goal in this match even if their life would depend on it!!! :rolleyes:
 
Shabazza

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OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Switzerland just can't score today - I can't believe 3 penalties in a row!!!!
 
malakas

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......................goal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ukraine Through!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
malakas

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Hehehehe!Italy will go to the 4!:D
HA!Germany will have to face Argentina and England Portugal ...and Italy..UKRAINE!!:mrgreen:
 
Shabazza

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malakas said:
NO!It was the worst match of this phase!
In the group phase there were worse..:(
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well Ukraine-Tunesia they scored at least ;) - and this match was boring as hell
It's a shame that Netherland is out and a team like Ukraine is still in the tourney...
 
Shabazza

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malakas said:
Hehehehe!Italy will go to the 4!:D
HA!Germany will have to face Argentina and England Portugal ...and Italy..UKRAINE!!:mrgreen:
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lucky guys - a penalty in the last sec and the worst team in the quarters - really lucky ;)
 
peter

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Shabazza said:
well Ukraine-Tunesia they scored at least ;) - and this match was boring as hell
It's a shame that Netherland is out and a team like Ukraine is still in the tourney...
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I just say one thing: Mexico.
 
malakas

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Shabazza said:
well Ukraine-Tunesia they scored at least ;) - and this match was boring as hell
It's a shame that Netherland is out and a team like Ukraine is still in the tourney...
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I second that.
Though,if instead of Ukraine there was Netherlands..Italy would probably lose..:(
So..better this way!!:mrgreen:
 
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malakas said:
No ..mexico.What I miss is Checz..:(
Nedved..Where are YOU?!?
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The Checz had a great first linup, but if a few of them get injured, like Koller, their lack of good players is obvious - they could've done better (and I felt sad for Nedved) but there is just so much you can do.
 
Docalex007

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Just watched the Swiss try shooting penalty shots....wow...they were horrible. But besides that, the best team overall won anyway, which is good.

Looking forward to Ghana beating Brazil tomorrow..and then Spain dismantling France.

Then our last 8 will be complete. :)
 
malakas

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Shabazza said:
The Checz had a great first linup, but if a few of them get injured, like Koller, their lack of good players is obvious - they could've done better (and I felt sad for Nedved) but there is just so much you can do.
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Yeah..it's just that they are soooo unlucky,And that was their last chance to win a trophy.Now,the new generation will take over.
Bye,bye Nedved!!!:( :(
 
malakas

malakas

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Docalex007 said:
Just watched the Swiss try shooting penalty shots....wow...they were horrible. But besides that, the best team overall won anyway, which is good.

Looking forward to Ghana beating Brazil tomorrow..and then Spain dismantling France.

Then our last 8 will be complete.
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Pfft!!!:p
France will win Spain!!!Zizou will do his magic again!!!:D

Oh..Ghana has the most fans!Everyone supports it.Even Brazil fans!
Not to mention Brazil haters!:cool:

Allez Ghana!!!!!: D
 
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man gotta feel sorry for the swiss... they didnt conceed a goal in the whole tournament. just comes to show that the best offence isnt a good defence (at least, not for the swiss ;)). but it was kind of sad how they couldnt score 1 penalty shot out of 3
 
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tennis_nerd22 said:
wait wait wait, your already suggesting that brazil beats ghana eh? well your in for a surprise buddy :D
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And also that Spain beats France. Unless the refs can somehow manage to overturn 3 or 4 Brazillian goals, I'm afraid it's inevitable.
 
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Phil said:
And also that Spain beats France. Unless the refs can somehow manage to overturn 3 or 4 Brazillian goals, I'm afraid it's inevitable.
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lol ya the refs... but dont count ghana out, i mean, look at france and senegal in '02. thats the nice thing about soccer, anyone can win. one of the african country's from what i heard (one of them in the world cup finals, cant remember which), qualified despite having the population of toronto, and canada cant even smell a world cup... so anyways, back on topic, dont count ghana or france out yet :)

...can't wait till tomorrow...
 
matty p

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malakas said:
LOL peter!:D

Though I still feel very sorry for Australlia..:(
Got to stick with my teamate!..Wimps united!:)
Matty dear..australia didn't deserved to lose like this..in the last minute of extra time with a penaly..: (
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thanx for the sympathy teammate. all i can say is the italians cheat in their local league so i guess we shouldve known that theyd cheat even more against us in the world cup. screw them
 
StraightSets

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Australia were cheated. Italian player dived. Pretty much the only reason why it will never be the best sport in the world. Good stuff, FIFA.
 
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StraightSets said:
Australia were cheated. Italian player dived. Pretty much the only reason why it will never be the best sport in the world. Good stuff, FIFA.
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Penalty was OK.
And soccer IS the best sport in the world.

Condi
 
StraightSets

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Condoleezza said:
Penalty was OK.
And soccer IS the best sport in the world.

Condi
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Not when you get grown men getting love-taps on the shins and rolling around as if they have just been run over by a truck.
 
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Docalex007 said:
You're not listening to Günter Netzer, are you? ;)
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Yes.
But Lothar Matthäus said the same at Premiere channel.
And the BBC as well.
Penalty kick was a tough but at least a defendable decision.
The Materazzi send-off not.

Condi
 
peter

peter

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Condoleezza said:
The Materazzi send-off not.
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How on *Earth* can you keep saying that? Are you not aware of the rules - that the referees have to follow - that explicitly say that if you go into a situation with both feet first and with straight legs (which Materazzi did) then it's an automatic red card? Just because Matthäus apparently doesn't know this rule (which is new for this WC) doesn't make it right.
 
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matty p said:
you are fricken jokin right? whats your defense of the penalty decision?
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Neil laid himself in Grosso's way to deny him a chance to score. He even raised his right shoulder. Grosso was in full speed on no way could have avoided to stumble. Had he tried to jump spiderman-like over the human barrier Neil had provided he (Grosso) would have fallen anyway. So he dutifully fell over Neil right away. In Germany we call Grosso's behaviour "decision help" for the ref. Doesn't chance anything that the PK was the right decision. Tough for Australia - but right.

Taken everything together the Ozzy team had their big share of luck because of very debatable ref decisions (Cahill foul on Takahashi at 1-1 against Japan, off-side eqalizer against Croatia, Materazzi being sent off). Thank the Lord for being allowed to play in the 2nd round and go home now.

Condi
 
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