Which culture foments the toughest minds?

Azure

Hall of Fame
#53
I think it comes down to what we would like to define as 'tough'. Terrorists seem to be the toughest (I speak with caution here) and the most brutal. They seem to be driven by a higher purpose, as flawed as it may be. A similar conditioning is that of the armed forces. Some of the stories of the training regimes of the elite Israeli forces can break almost anyone. Others that comes to mind are tribes and nomads. Many are ruthless and do not share the idea of compassion.

I would like to think that brainwashed cultures are the toughest since they are not open to change. Consequently, they are not malleable to debate and enquiry.

A tough mind with a scientific enquiry is what would make for a good individual. I don't think we can paint whole cultures with it.
 
#54
Remember Switzerland stood up to Na*zi Germany, that's tough stuff. Basically Germany could have conquered Switzerland, but it would have been a Stalingrad for them. The Swiss had a formidable network of forts and the mountains, in addition they were very well armed. So Hitler decided it wasn't worth it.
True but the secretive Swiss banks were notorious at helping to finance the German war machine
 

Bartelby

Talk Tennis Guru
#55
Many American industrial concerns remained in Germany after the accession of der Fuehrer to power. And of course today the West supplies arms to countries which kill civilians.

True but the secretive Swiss banks were notorious at helping to finance the German war machine
 
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#59
What happened to the "army" thread? I thought our debate was well within the rules. I guess I can never know where you stand on the issue in question.

Many American industrial concerns remained in Germany after the accession of der Fuehrer to power. And of course today the West supplies arms to countries which kill civilians.
 

Bartelby

Talk Tennis Guru
#60
You disappeared for too long as it went on for quite a while before Dr Gold decided to post dozens of posts and killed it off completely.

What happened to the "army" thread? I thought our debate was well within the rules. I guess I can never know where you stand on the issue in question.
 
#64
Super-broad question, I know.

And I've got my opinions here.

But will withhold them until some folks weigh in.

I will say at the outset that I believe some cultures are more adamant in their positions, perhaps partly due to a ubiquitous drive for independence.

You mean the smartest or toughest people
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
#67
Toughest mind belongs to one who has eschewed religion and learnt to face the truth that he is just a collection of once-independent marine cellular species, which itself was a random creation of some auto-catalytic chemical reaction which produced life, which itself is due to the creation of a universe from nothing due to random quantum fluctuations. His life and death serve no purpose at all and almost everything he is told about his existence is wrong and most people he encounters are deluded. Only such a man is a real man.
 
#68
Toughest mind belongs to one who has eschewed religion and learnt to face the truth that he is just a collection of once-independent marine cellular species, which itself was a random creation of some auto-catalytic chemical reaction which produced life, which itself is due to the creation of a universe from nothing due to random quantum fluctuations. His life and death serve no purpose at all and almost everything he is told about his existence is wrong and most people he encounters are deluded. Only such a man is a real man.
 
#69
I'll bite...

Jews come to mind, first.

But who knows?
Then why am I dumb as a bag of Matza ???
Funny thing is I have good survival instincts as I am careful of Everyone around me and where the exits are .
You give me a physics book and I have the IQ of a Matza ball
I never even used a stove until like 38 lol
 

dParis

Hall of Fame
#70
Then why am I dumb as a bag of Matza ???
Funny thing is I have good survival instincts as I am careful of Everyone around me and where the exits are .
You give me a physics book and I have the IQ of a Matza ball
I never even used a stove until like 38 lol
Maybe you really are dumb but just mentally tough enough to move to Las Vegas and open a UPS store

-or-

Maybe you really are dumb and you aren't Jewish. Consider a DNA test.
 

Northern

Hall of Fame
#71
Toughest mind belongs to one who has eschewed religion and learnt to face the truth that he is just a collection of once-independent marine cellular species, which itself was a random creation of some auto-catalytic chemical reaction which produced life, which itself is due to the creation of a universe from nothing due to random quantum fluctuations. His life and death serve no purpose at all and almost everything he is told about his existence is wrong and most people he encounters are deluded. Only such a man is a real man.
The thing is that we really don't know, but many people think that it's more plausible to think of an overarching reason to something as astoundingly complex as the Universe than to consider it just a mere chance event coming out of nothing. That overarching reason is what we call God.

Also, how can you say there is "nothing" when there is a "quantum fluctuation," whatever that means? Isn't that "something"?
 
#73
Maybe you really are dumb but just mentally tough enough to move to Las Vegas and open a UPS store

-or-

Maybe you really are dumb and you aren't Jewish. Consider a DNA test.
Both of my parents are and I have a few relatives In Israel
I don’t practice any religion
 

sredna42

Hall of Fame
#75
IQ isn't everything. My mother has some monstrous mensa IQ yet is batschitt insane and functionally useless. I think emotional IQ or temperament potentiates whatever brain horsepower you get.
 
#77
IQ isn't everything. My mother has some monstrous mensa IQ yet is batschitt insane and functionally useless. I think emotional IQ or temperament potentiates whatever brain horsepower you get.
I have a good common sense IQ
You won’t find me doing calculus or physics
 
#78
East Indians seem to be the most successful folks in America !!!
So many in IT world to MDs to engineers
And most are very mentally stable
 
#80
I think the Finns. They were the only nation bordering the Soviet Union that kept their independence.

Also, in WWII they drove out the Soviets, then drove out the Nahzis. Today they are an affluent country with the best school system in the world.

Hurray for the Finns!
 
#81
I think the Finns. They were the only nation bordering the Soviet Union that kept their independence.

Also, in WWII they drove out the Soviets, then drove out the Nahzis. Today they are an affluent country with the best school system in the world.

Hurray for the Finns!
I heard that they are Finnish.
 
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