Which final will be more competitive at Rg this year- Nadal-Thiem, Nadal- Djokovic or Nadal- Tsitsipas?

More Competitive

  • Nadal-Thiem

    Votes: 16 28.1%

  • Nadal- Tsitsipas

    Votes: 23 40.4%

  • Nadal- Djokovic

    Votes: 18 31.6%
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Either of these seems to be the matchup we may get in final at Rg this year depending on the draw, which will be most competitive as rafa will be clear favourite in all.
Nadal- Thiem- This could be most competitive I feel if thiem is even 80-90 % of his best although will he win is a different topic
Nadal- Djokovic - This seems least competitive currently seeing how much djokovic has declined on clay and last year drubbing in conditions which rafa doesn't play his best so in hot and dry final it could turn out similar way
Nadal- Tsitsipas- This could be competitive although rafa at Chatrier and Tsitsipas playing in his first grand slam final could really make it one sided
 
Tsitsipas will fold in either 3 or easy 4. Thiem might not even go deep depending on his condition.

It's Novak by default. Though I think he pushes to 4 this year.
 
Nadal vs Thiem.

Djokovic with his declined power won't be able to hit through nadal and end up getting bullied once again.

About Tsitsipas, as we saw yesterday, he can't even survive FH-BH rallies against a pretty average version of the warrior, on a relatively fast-ish clay court.

Thiem vs Nadal would be the most competitive battle, though the result is NID. nadal in 4
 
I would say Thiem if he can play his best but it's a huge if, and a SF against Nadal would probably be more competitive than a final. Otherwise if Thiem can't find his best level yet probably Djokovic
 
I'll go with the tested and proven Djokovic. At least he has the right game plan to punish a subpar version of Nadal, if such a thing exists in a RG final.
 
On any given day Nole can at least come close to matching Rafa. So, yeah. Nole by default. Though I'm a Rafa fan, I'd love to see the bull beat TsiTsi Fly in a tough four setter. TsiTsi is fun to watch for sure.
 
Djokovic is and always will be the biggest threat to Nadal even if it's clay. I bet you if you ask nadal this question he would never pick to play against Djokovic. Djokovic has every tool in the box to neutralize Nadal.
 
RF-18 said:
:-D :-D

I get it with Thiem if he can arrive in form, but Tsitsipas? Hellno. That's probably more wishful thinking than anything.
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Putting Djokovic ahead of him against Nadal on clay right now is more laughable. At least Tsitsipas won't be getting bageled even if he loses.

:giggle:
 
Backspin1183 said:
Putting Djokovic ahead of him against Nadal on clay right now is more laughable. At least Tsitsipas won't be getting bageled even if he loses.

:giggle:
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Djokovic holds Madrid and Rome titles for the past year/two, and has an RG final, but Tsitsipas is the bigger threat? Lol. Too much recency bias going on in this place. His performance at MC literally tells nothing.
 
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Historically at RG, Djokovic, by a good margin.
Given current clay form - with slight carryover from the AO - Stefanos.
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Side point:. Rafa was CLEARLY dominant versus Novak in last year's RG final, but it gets tiring (even as a Rafa fan) to read about him bageling Novak. It was a B of 5 match, and the third was at least competitive.
 
Reading this thread I can see that TTW has one week memory...
Lol at Tsitsipas bandwagooners...

Novak is the obvious choice... he proved in the past that he can beat Nadal on clay, and at one match its possible he plays a great match while Nadal plays subpar...
Thiem is obvious no 2, and Tsi must prove himself, we can't choose him over mentioned two because of hard resistance vs subpar Nadal (and lose) in one match...
There is Rublev who beat Nadal two weeks ago, but we have Tsi in the pool... LOL... Bandwagon mentality proved... :rolleyes:
 
Nadal-Djokovic. If Djokovic is in the final against Rafa, he would love another crack at Rafa. That's just who he is. And do not let last year's results fool you. Djokovic is the last person Rafa wants to face, even on clay. If they meet again this year, I don't think it will be a blowout.
 
Stefanos
~= Djokovic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Thiem

As much as I like him, Thiem isn't a contender right now until he shows us his head is back in the game and he's overcome the mental slump.

Toss-up between Novak and Stefanos for me. Novak is the experienced player and has beaten Nadal a small number of times, but we saw how it went even with more favorable conditions last year. Stefanos is playing pretty well right now and I think Barcelona proved he can be competitive with Nadal. Small edge to the younger, in-form player IMO
 
It's quiet funny how much bashing Thiem got, and we heard that Djokovic would make it much more competitive. But as we found out, Thiem in the 2018-2019 finals actually gave better fight than Djokovic in 2020, and this is despite 2020 being indoors.
 
RaulRamirez said:
Historically at RG, Djokovic, by a good margin.
Given current clay form - with slight carryover from the AO - Stefanos.
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Side point:. Rafa was CLEARLY dominant versus Novak in last year's RG final, but it gets tiring (even as a Rafa fan) to read about him bageling Novak. It was a B of 5 match, and the third was at least competitive.
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The third was competitive because Nadal suffered a mental collapse. If he kept playing like in the first two sets it would be another 6-2. But he didn't stop choking. Honestly, his mentality is his biggest problem against Djokovic.
 
I'm not sure I believe in Novak anymore on clay. Fitness and power are too suspect. I think Thiem is the pick until he shows me a reason to think otherwise. People have given up on him far too quickly.
 
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StrongRule said:
It's quiet funny how much bashing Thiem got, and we heard that Djokovic would make it much more competitive. But as we found out, Thiem in the 2018-2019 finals actually gave better fight than Djokovic in 2020, and this is despite 2020 being indoors.
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Nadal- Thiem is always competitive, thiem with gamestyle he possesses which us perfect for clay a bit like rafa makes this matchup intriguing and his backhand is quite dangerous for a one hander which allows him to be offensive with that wing unlike other one handers who just cannot do anything other than defending off it or soray errors left right and centre even Tsitsipas does well with but just about makes the rally continue his main weapon is forehand which was doing damage to rafa yesterday when in full flow
 
Thiem has fizzled a bit with Slam-lag I think, and Djo doesn't look like he is clay ready, so I'd go with an in form TsiTsi as probably the most energetic final. That said, Thiem loves clay and competing, so he might rally again. And Djo might get that recovery prescription from his doctors or spiritual guides to get him ready.
 
ChaelAZ said:
Thiem has fizzled a bit with Slam-lag I think, and Djo doesn't look like he is clay ready, so I'd go with an in form TsiTsi as probably the most energetic final. That said, Thiem loves clay and competing, so he might rally again. And Djo might get that recovery prescription from his doctors or spiritual guides to get him ready.
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Nadal miraculously recovered in time for clay, no?
 
Peaking Zverev vs Nadal will be the most competitive I feel.

But that’s not what OP asked, so Tsitsipas.
 
I'll go with the matchup that just went 3.5 hours over 3 sets

As an aside, I actually think Karatsev is the single biggest threat to Nadal at RG, and I thought that was the case before his match in Belgrade against Novak. I think Aslan has the best chance of anybody to successfully copy the Soderling playbook.
 
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StrongRule said:
It's quiet funny how much bashing Thiem got, and we heard that Djokovic would make it much more competitive. But as we found out, Thiem in the 2018-2019 finals actually gave better fight than Djokovic in 2020, and this is despite 2020 being indoors.
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Do you remember clowns who were saying how Djokovic would’ve beaten Nadal in 2019, or even in 2018 RG Final if he made it there?
 
Yugram said:
Peaking Zverev vs Nadal will be the most competitive I feel.

But that’s not what OP asked, so Tsitsipas.
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Like seriously, peaking Zverev >>>>> any Young player peaking.

The guy should’ve beaten the supposed AO GOAT 6-3 2-6 6-1 6-2, but could never stop choking.
 
Yugram said:
Do you remember clowns who were saying how Djokovic would’ve beaten Nadal in 2019, or even in 2018 RG Final if he made it there?
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I remember veronika404 writing that Nadal will never win it again once they build a roof. Sad there is no Eurosport anymore.
 
I'm surprised by hubris of posters who are NOT voting for Nadal-Djokovic.

Djokovic is the ONLY guy who's taken Nadal to the woodshed in RG. He beat Nadal in straight sets at RG. He's also taken Nadal to 5 sets and 4 sets in his closest matches in RG EVER.
Sure he lost one match in RG 2020 when he wasn't playing well. Does that mean he will lose like that everytime?

If there is one guy who can beat Nadal at RG - it is Novak. And only Novak among the current players. Because he is a champion and a GREAT player. Which Thiem and Titspas clearly aren't.

So much of recency bias here, at the sake of losing objectivity. In a RG final, none of these young pretenders will beat Nadal. Thiem maybe has a slight chance. Titspas has no chance in his first slam final. He also lacks power that Thiem has.
Ask Nadal's team who they fear the most in RG - you will get the answer pretty clearly.
 
RF-18 said:
Djokovic is and always will be the biggest threat to Nadal even if it's clay. I bet you if you ask nadal this question he would never pick to play against Djokovic. Djokovic has every tool in the box to neutralize Nadal.
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No. 10-6 at the majors suggests over 5 sets Nadal is a massive problem for Djokovic rather than vice versa.
The above stat tells me that over 5 sets Nadal FH will break Djokovic BH down.
Right now younger men more a threat to nadal than djokovic. No question.
 
TennisFan3 said:
I'm surprised by hubris of posters who are NOT voting for Nadal-Djokovic.

Djokovic is the ONLY guy who's taken Nadal to the woodshed in RG. He beat Nadal in straight sets at RG. He's also taken Nadal to 5 sets and 4 sets in his closest matches in RG EVER.
Sure he lost one match in RG 2020 when he wasn't playing well. Does that mean he will lose like that everytime?

If there is one guy who can beat Nadal at RG - it is Novak. And only Novak among the current players. Because he is a champion and a GREAT player. Which Thiem and Titspas clearly aren't.

So much of recency bias here, at the sake of losing objectivity. In a RG final, none of these young pretenders will beat Nadal. Thiem maybe has a slight chance. Titspas has no chance in his first slam final. He also lacks power that Thiem has.
Ask Nadal's team who they fear the most in RG - you will get the answer pretty clearly.
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Did you miss the final of Rome 2019 and FO 2020?
Djokovic has nothing on clay to hurt Nadal. Not anymore.
 
Tsitsipas probably the most likely to trouble Nadal as Thiem and Djokovic have too much baggage now v Nadal.
However Tsitsipas at best gets a set.
 
Yugram said:
You wouldn't have liked how Nadal was playing. I didn’t particularly like it either. But I liked how he fought till the last point and I rate this victory very high, important match.
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As I understand from the comments he still chokes in tiebreaks and hits lots of double faults on big points.
 
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