Which half of the draw would Federer prefer to be in?

[enlightenment]

With the seeds fixed, Federer draws either Djoker or Murray in the SFs. Which half would he prefer to be in?
Djokovic - more of an unknown factor. An early Eastbourne loss and he could be out in Wimby week 1. However if he finds form he is far more likely to beat Federer than Murray is.
Murray - has also been poor recently, but as we have seen recently can find a way through the early rounds of a GS even if not in form, and thus more likely to reach the SFs. Less likely to beat Federer in the SFs, but will be mentally and probably physically tiring should they meet.

Imo, it may actually be a good thing to face the Big 4 in the SFs, as they will have cleared the draw of dangerous floaters such as Cilic and Kyrgios. Discuss.

 

[MasturB]

Nole since he's not all of the sudden gonna have amazing form to beat Fed. May get lucky and make to semis but he also is at risk for getting upset in the first week.

Murray is gonna have the entire stadium behind his back, and even though Fed is the only one that can neutralize Murray's homefield advantage, I'd rather Fed just take out a wounded animal like Nole.

Let Murray and Rafa slug it out so Fed is fresh for the final.

 

[TripleATeam]

I think Federer will have an easier time against a man he leads the H2H in heavily than one that is dead even.

Personally, I also think Djokovic might Djokofix some problems in Eastbourne. We'll see.

 

[BGod]

He'll likely straight set either guy. Irrelevant.

 

[Poisoned Slice]

Yeah, I don't think it really matters.

 

[roysid]

He is 2-0 vs Murray in Wimbledon when Murray was at his best. He is 1-2 vs Novak including 2 final loss. The answer is obvious.

 

[WYK]

Yeah, I don't think it really matters.

I dunno, what if Serena was on his side of the draw...

 

[The_18th_Slam]

He will have his doubts against Djokovic, so I think he has better chances against Murray.

That said, I don't think Federer really cares. He's probably more worried about how he's going to play if he gets to the semifinal.

 

[Deleted member 512391]

I think that he is a favorite in a potential match against either of them, but a victory over Novak would be sweeter after two consecutive defeats.

 

[cc0509]

I'm with some others who say I don't think it matters much at the current time unless Djokovic can find his 2015 form real quick.

 

[Tennis_Hands]

Murray.

 

[Rago]

Murray without a doubt. 5-0 against him since 2014. Djokovic and Nadal can still grind Federer down if his level drops for long periods.

 

[Artist]

I'm just hoping he won't have to face a 100+ ranked player

 

[Sentinel]

Murray.

He would like to improve his h2h against Nole, no ?

But I think Murray is more likely to make the SF than Nole. So it could be a big server/hitter in place of Nole.

 

[clayqueen]

Federer will be in the top half of the draw. Apart from the fact that Federer is always in the half that plays first, (to give him plenty of rest), Nadal and Djokovic have been drawn in the same section for so long that I have lost count so I don't think it will be any different this time.

 

[Zebrev]

People are forgetting that Djokovic's problems are mental, not physical. That means things could click back into place for him at any stage of Eastbourne or the early rounds at Wimbledon. This is also true of Murray but I don't think Murray really troubles Federer anymore, especially this Fed who can just hit drop shots and get Murray running to every corner of the court for 3 hours.

 

[Feather]

Federer will be in the top half of the draw. Apart from the fact that Federer is always in the half that plays first, (to give him plenty of rest), Nadal and Djokovic have been drawn in the same section for so long that I have lost count so I don't think it will be any different this time.

Ever since Novak Djokovic won a major in AO 2008, Roger Federer and Novak Djokovic have been in the same half a lot more than Novak and Rafa.

 

[junior74]

Federer will be in the top half of the draw.

Here's Federer's draws the last six years (not seeded 1):

2011: Bottom
2012: Top
2013: Bottom
2014: Bottom
2015: Bottom
2016: Top

 

[clayqueen]

Ever since Novak Djokovic won a major in AO 2008, Roger Federer and Novak Djokovic have been in the same half a lot more than Novak and Rafa.

You may be right. It just seems to me that it's been Muzz/Fed, Djok/Nad for the past year at least.

 

[cc0509]

You may be right. It just seems to me that it's been Muzz/Fed, Djok/Nad for the past year at least.

So you are worried about Nadal facing Djokovic as well now? I thought you said Nadal is the best grass court player in the history of the sport?

 

[Feather]

Here's Federer's draws the last six years (not seeded 1):

2011: Bottom
2012: Top
2013: Bottom
2014: Bottom
2015: Bottom
2016: Top

LOL, owned her

 

[junior74]

So you are worried about Nadal facing Djokovic as well now? I thought you said Nadal is the best grass court player in the history of the sport?

I believe it was Wilander who said Djokovic was the best clay courter

 

[Sarzy]

Murray for sure

 

[cc0509]

I believe it was Wilander who said Djokovic was the best clay courter

LOL. They're both loopy!

 

[clayqueen]

So you are worried about Nadal facing Djokovic as well now? I thought you said Nadal is the best grass court player in the history of the sport?

What makes you think I'm worried about Nadal facing Djokovic? All I'm saying is, lately they seem to be drawn in the same section.


This is what I think the draw will look like for the top 8 seeds

Murray
Federer
Wawrinka
Cilic

Djokovic
Nadal
Raonic
Thiem

 

[Feather]

You may be right. It just seems to me that it's been Muzz/Fed, Djok/Nad for the past year at least.

No need of "maybe".

Ever since Novak Djokovic won a major in AO 2008, whenever all three played, Roger has been in Novak's half 17 times ( AO 2009, AO 2010, AO 2011, AO 2016, FO 2009, FO2011, FO 2012, FO 2014, W 2008, W 2009, W 2010, W 2011, W 2012, US 2008, US 2009, US 2010, US 2011) and Rafa has been in Novak's half just six times ( AO 2017, FO 2008, FO 2010, FO 2013, FO 2015 US 2015) 17 > 6

This made Roger and Novak at a disadvantage while Rafa had a huge advantage. Roger and Novak repeatedly met each other in AO, US Open and Wimbledon semi finals while in the same period Rafa and Novak never met in any SF in these three majors.

So quit whining

 

[clayqueen]

No need of "maybe".

Ever since Novak Djokovic won a major in AO 2008, whenever all three played, Roger has been in Novak's half 17 times ( AO 2009, AO 2010, AO 2011, AO 2016, FO 2009, FO2011, FO 2012, FO 2014, W 2008, W 2009, W 2010, W 2011, W 2012, US 2008, US 2009, US 2010, US 2011) and Rafa has been in Novak's half just six times ( AO 2017, FO 2008, FO 2010, FO 2013, FO 2015 US 2015) 17 > 6

This made Roger and Novak at a disadvantage while Rafa had a huge advantage. Roger and Novak repeatedly met each other in AO, US Open and Wimbledon semi finals while in the same period Rafa and Novak never met in any SF in these three majors.

So quit whining

There is a whining going on. You are only talking about slams and I am talking about all tournaments.

 

[Tennis_Hands]

Federer will be in the top half of the draw. Apart from the fact that Federer is always in the half that plays first, (to give him plenty of rest), Nadal and Djokovic have been drawn in the same section for so long that I have lost count so I don't think it will be any different this time.

When Federer was ruling the tennis world he was drawn ridiculous amount of times together with Djokovic in major tournaments.

I think that it was something like 12 consecutive times.

 

[Deleted member 77403]

This is intersting question because both Murray and Djokovic are unknowns. They are just too good to simply write off, either one or both could snap into form and Federer knows this all to well. But I do think if there is one player he will want to avoid is a GOATing Djokovic, for me that is still the biggest threat to Federer winning his 19th at SW19.

Really looking forward to this slam. Still see Federer getting 8th Wimbledon.

 

[TheGhostOfAgassi]

You may be right. It just seems to me that it's been Muzz/Fed, Djok/Nad for the past year at least.

Would be great to have Andy in Rafas side for once!! Not often a Rafa Andy matches.

 

[Newcomer]

No need of "maybe".

Ever since Novak Djokovic won a major in AO 2008, whenever all three played, Roger has been in Novak's half 17 times ( AO 2009, AO 2010, AO 2011, AO 2016, FO 2009, FO2011, FO 2012, FO 2014, W 2008, W 2009, W 2010, W 2011, W 2012, US 2008, US 2009, US 2010, US 2011) and Rafa has been in Novak's half just six times ( AO 2017, FO 2008, FO 2010, FO 2013, FO 2015 US 2015) 17 > 6

This made Roger and Novak at a disadvantage while Rafa had a huge advantage. Roger and Novak repeatedly met each other in AO, US Open and Wimbledon semi finals while in the same period Rafa and Novak never met in any SF in these three majors.

So quit whining

Lmao. You even put tournaments where Nadal and Djokovic were number 1 and 2, so even theoretically they couldn't meet before final.

 

[junior74]

Would be great to have Andy in Rafas side for once!! Not often a Rafa Andy matches.

Same half in 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2015

 

[TheGhostOfAgassi]

Same half in 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2015

But Nadal most of those years lost early.
Have seen Novak Rafa soooooooo many matches, they have played each other a lot if you check H2H.
Wouldnt mind a Rafa Andy final. Wawrinka Rafa again would be very nice as well

 

[junior74]

But Nadal most of those years lost early.
Have seen Novak Rafa soooooooo many matches, they have played each other a lot if you check H2H.
Wouldnt mind a Rafa Andy final. Wawrinka Rafa again would be very nice as well

Well, getting to Andy is Rafa's problem

I think Andy and Novak will not make it past QF this year. Too erratic, both of them, and they end up losing when they make errors, since their games are based on not making them I think there are many players who can beat them right now.

 

[TheGhostOfAgassi]

Well, getting to Andy is Rafa's problem

I think Andy and Novak will not make it past QF this year. Too erratic, both of them, and they end up losing when they make errors, since their games are based on not making them I think there are many players who can beat them right now.

Andy made it pretty far in RG, his least lovable surface. Novak we have no idea which form he is in.
Its a bit about matchups now, so draw will be interesting. Federer and Rafa has different types of matchups that favors them.

 

[Tatenda]

I think the quarter draw of cilic and who will draw the likes of kyrigos , Lopez will be the interesting ones

 

[Tatenda]

provided all top for seeds make it to the semi I doubt if he would prefer Novak over Murray,

something about fed, Novak and Rafa you don't wanna draw them even if they are having a bad season

 

[junior74]

Andy made it pretty far in RG, his least lovable surface. Novak we have no idea which form he is in.
Its a bit about matchups now, so draw will be interesting. Federer and Rafa has different types of matchups that favors them.

True about Andy's RG, that was a surprise. We never really know with these guys, do we? Novak may come back and play excellent tennis for all we know. Very exiting tournament ahead of us Also on a surface that provides upsets like no other...

Let's hope the weather forecasts are wrong. Looks to be rain the next 10 days or so

 

[lud]

Of course Murray. Djokovic is out of form,but is still far more dangerous for Fed in BO5. And, debatable, Fed has mental block vs Djokovic in BO5

 

[icedevil0289]

He will have his doubts against Djokovic, so I think he has better chances against Murray.

That said, I don't think Federer really cares. He's probably more worried about how he's going to play if he gets to the semifinal.

perhaps because it's been a while since he faced him, those losses might not weigh in his head as much. much like his approach when playing nadal at AO

 

[TheGhostOfAgassi]

True about Andy's RG, that was a surprise. We never really know with these guys, do we? Novak may come back and play excellent tennis for all we know. Very exiting tournament ahead of us Also on a surface that provides upsets like no other...

Let's hope the weather forecasts are wrong. Looks to be rain the next 10 days or so

Wanted to catch a match before work, Novak. But seems that one is raining away
Its a miracle that they manage to finish Wimbledon every year(and w no roof) w that amount of rain they have in UK. Wish they could do some geo engineering for Wimbledon this year

 

[icedevil0289]

doesn't matter, he's taking it match by match. honestly, despite the h2h, i think both would be tough. we're questioning the forms of both players, but if either get to the semis they have to be in somewhat of a decent form. we know that novak has gotten the better of roger the last two finals, but i also dont know if murray would be as easy as people assume. its hard to say imo because both would be tough in the finals so not sure about semis either. in 2012 it happened to be djokovic first and then murray so maybe I'll stick with that, because the reverse in 2015 did not work for him.

 

[Tennis_Hands]

LOL, owned her

Since Decimo committed to posting lies quite openly it is no secret that almost all of its claims are easily disproved, if one half-tries.

Still, it is good to remind it of its place.

 

[tennisaddict]

I would like Fed to face Djok in SF. DJok in finals could raise his level and it could be just the springboard needed for his revival.

Short term it may be a tougher opponent in Djok, but the stakes are too high if the meeting is delayed

 

[Deleted member 77403]

Since Decimo committed to posting lies quite openly it is no secret that almost all of its claims are easily disproved, if one half-tries.

Still, it is good to remind it of its place.

It?

 

[Tennis_Hands]

It?

#botsallovertheplace

 

[Roddick85]

Neither guys are playing their best tennis at the moment, however I'd rather see Murray in the SF than Djokovic because Fed hasn't lost to him in a long long time, and I still remember Wimbledon 2015. While I don't get the feeling that Murray is about to find his form anytime soon, I wouldn't bet against Djokovic in the long term because I'm convinced he will bounce back. I don't think it's a matter of IF, but more like WHEN and let's say Djokovic has to play Federer, that could really be an inspiration/extra motivation for him.

 

[Deleted member 512391]

Of course Murray. Djokovic is out of form,but is still far more dangerous for Fed in BO5. And, debatable, Fed has mental block vs Djokovic in BO5

He had a mental block against Nadal as well, but he won that AO final in an impressive way. And, in terms of confidence, this is not the 2014/2015 Federer, this is a guy who won a Major (beating his nemesis in the final) and two Masters, so I don't think he would fold mentally against Novak, regardless of those losses in Majors in the last 2-3 years.

 

[KINGROGER]

A Djokovic final win would be so sweet but then again another loss would be absolutely gutting. Think I'd rather he face Nole in the SF.

As far as winning Wimbledon goes, couldn't ask for a better opponent than Murray who Fed owns there.

 

[MajesticMoose]

I don't think it matters too much. Nole or Murray. How about they somehow end up both on the same side as Fed so he can beat em both for double the satisfaction.