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Of the four grand slams, Wimbledon is clearly the biggest while Australia ranks fourth.
But which is second, or are they equal?
But which is second, or are they equal?
Of the four grand slams, Wimbledon is clearly the biggest while Australia ranks fourth.
But which is second, or are they equal?
Historically grand slams were less or more prestigious, but in this day and age with the prize-money on offer and professionalism of top players they all take them seriously, so they are all pretty equal in terms of their value in winning them today. Wimbledon has the tradition and history so a slight edge to them in that regard, but the other 3 are all equally weighted when weighing on how prestigious they are to win IMO
US open by about a million miles.
What he said.
Just to make the point of that. You would never see such a crowd at the french for a first round match that Sharapova and Kirilenko were playing. The night matches are electric at the US open. These players are on a huge stage. The french open is like a desert early on. And not just cause they play on dirt.
Of the four grand slams, Wimbledon is clearly the biggest while Australia ranks fourth.
But which is second, or are they equal?
Of the four grand slams, Wimbledon is clearly the biggest while Australia ranks fourth.
But which is second, or are they equal?
so you say us open is more prestigious because 30 or 40 years ago, players forfeit RG but attended the usopen...or because it has more crowds.. thats just nonsense
ask any player which grand slam they would want to win, and i would be surprised if usopen was asnwered more often then roland garros.
All four grand slams are equal.
This. 10equalslams
Actually, more prestigious tournaments are harder to win.
Because everyone will focus more and play tougher there.
So, unless players start to believe that all majors are equal, USO and W will always be tougher and more important to win.
But we aren't there yet. There is a bias towards W and USO. So, that subconsciously and also consciously makes players try harder there and creates tougher field there.
hahahahhahhahhaha - yea they don't try as hard at the aussie or RG, they sorta go thru the motions and see if they get lucky. Funniest post i've read yet i swear!
I know it's funny, but it's true. It's how our mind works. We try more at something we believe is more important.
I didn't say the difference is huge. They obviously try hard at every major. But they put in this tiny extra at W and USO. Which is normal. Obviously, that doesn't apply for all players, but for majority.
I remember Federer saying when he wasn't having slams, that he wants to win W or US open once.
I don't know why USO or W have more value in player's minds. It certainly isn't fair, but it's sadly true. I guess it's historical bias. But it still exists and that is what makes those tournaments a bit tougher and more special to win.
There was an article that Fed's 5 consecutive USO titles is probably one of the greatest tennis records. That winning USO is so damn hard. Because everyone is good there, everyone has motivation there and it's fast, so a lot of upsets happen. I would say USO is even harder to win as W. Because grass is still a specialists surface, so the field is usually not as deep there, since all non specialists aren't competitive there.
I know it's funny, but it's true. It's how our mind works. We try more at something we believe is more important.
I didn't say the difference is huge. They obviously try hard at every major. But they put in this tiny extra at W and USO. Which is normal. Obviously, that doesn't apply for all players, but for majority.
I remember Federer saying when he wasn't having slams, that he wants to win W or US open once.
I don't know why USO or W have more value in player's minds. It certainly isn't fair, but it's sadly true. I guess it's historical bias. But it still exists and that is what makes those tournaments a bit tougher and more special to win.
There was an article that Fed's 5 consecutive USO titles is probably one of the greatest tennis records. That winning USO is so damn hard. Because everyone is good there, everyone has motivation there and it's fast, so a lot of upsets happen. I would say USO is even harder to win as W. Because grass is still a specialists surface, so the field is usually not as deep there, since all non specialists aren't competitive there.
Have to agree with this post. The body is able to give more effort. That is why a motivated team can outplay a non motivated team.
Also yes regarding the difficulty of the US. It is no coincidence that we have seen two guys win 7 Wimbledons and one guy win 9 French Opens in the past 20 years. That would be much more unlikely to happen at the US Open. Much harder to dominate Hard courts than grass or clay.
All four grand slams are equal.
Of course, you could say the US has some responsibility for the French Open, since we liberated Paris.
The circus-like atmosphere for the USO doesn’t really fit tennis or a prestigious tournament and is more akin to the WTF.
Other things that really weaken the USO in this argument:
Has been played on three different surfaces with the last surface change being recent (in relative terms)
Moved venue relatively recently (1978 vs 1928 )
5th set TB
Not an exclusive slam surface, one of two hard court slams
The years of Monday mens finals
By investment, I'd say USO.
At least, players get more money and the USO has lights for night matches
USO
Winners (1) $3,000,000
Runners-Up (1) $1,450,000
Semifinalists (2) $730,000
Quarterfinalists (4) $370,250
Round of 16 (8) $187,300
Third Round (16) $105,090
Second Round (32) $60,420
First Round (64) $35,754
RG
Winners (1) $2,176,614
Runners-Up (1) $1,088,307
Semifinalists (2) $544,153.5
Quarterfinalists (4) $290,215.2
Round of 16 (8) $164,895
Third Round (16) $94,979.52
Second Round (32) $55,404.72
First Round (64) $31,659.84
According to the poll, the obvious choice is the US Open.
It's no secret that the USO gets higher prize/money because it generate more revenue due to more sponsors and greater number of attendance.
^^^Oh I'm sure you like the result because Sampras has 5 USO but zero FO. Haha!