Which lasts more: full poly or poly with something else?

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I googled this but I couldn't get a direct answer. I've used full polyester string beds lately and they seem to break fast. I've also had mains poly crosses either synthetic gut or multifilament, don't even remember.

Anyways, which setup lasts more?

 

[LeeD]

The poly part will break after whatever you pair it with.
If it's full poly........
The poly part might die before whatever you pair it with.

 

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The poly part will break after whatever you pair it with.
If it's full poly........
The poly part might die before whatever you pair it with.

Ok, but which will last longer?

 

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Ok, but which will last longer?

I don't see an edit button for posts anymore.

I was going to ask if you're saying then that pairing poly with anything else will last longer than full poly?

 

[SpinToWin]

Depends on you and your game. If you aren't a string breaker then gut/poly with gut in the mains will last you longer playability wise.

 

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Depends on you and your game. If you aren't a string breaker then gut/poly with gut in the mains will last you longer playability wise.

I think I am a string breaker. They don't last that long if I play hard and swing faster, which is actually how I try to play.

 

[Taveren]

The only string more durable than poly is kevlar.

 

[meltedsteam]

Kevlar/poly will last the longest.
Poly/ZX will last the next longest.
Poly/tournament nylon, poly/synthetic gut, synthetic gut/poly, full poly...Not sure about those...I guess that is where you can't get a straight answer.

 

[SpinToWin]

I think I am a string breaker. They don't last that long if I play hard and swing faster, which is actually how I try to play.

What is short for you? How many hours of play?

 

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Full poly...Not sure about those...I guess that is where you can't get a straight answer.

You mean most people never use a full poly string Bed? Don't pros do that? Like Nadal for instance?

 

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What is short for you? How many hours of play?

I have never actually timed it, but I would say a couple of days.

 

[mye0330]

I tried both and based on my little experience poly/syn hybrid lasts a little longer than full poly although I use full poly mostly right now due to the little extra control that I get. I will try hybrid again in a week or so when my current strings die. with soft syn or multi on the crosses the poly does not get notch as easily so it can slide and move for a longer period of time. of course it will depend on your playing style. just give it a try.

 

[Taveren]

You mean most people never use a full poly string Bed? Don't pros do that? Like Nadal for instance?

Not all people are like pros or Nadal. Poly is primarily for string breakers and players who can generate enough rhs and power to fully utilize poly.

It does not mean that the pros use poly then everyone else should also use poly. It will not magically improve a persons game but it does allow you to swing faster and take bigger cuts on the ball with more confidence.

Just my 2 cents

 

[Muppet]

I don't see an edit button for posts anymore.

After about your first 50 posts they'll turn the edit button on for you.

 

[Anton]

I googled this but I couldn't get a direct answer. I've used full polyester string beds lately and they seem to break fast. I've also had mains poly crosses either synthetic gut or multifilament, don't even remember.

Anyways, which setup lasts more?

Silicone spray is the answer (spray into paper towel, and rub on cross strings every other outing).

polyester will play almost like fresh stringjob until they pop, which will be about 2x as long as what you get now

 

[LeeD]

In ANY combination in life, the combination is only as strong as the WEAKEST link.
Combo a poly to a syn gut, what is the weak link?
Combo a poly to gut, what is the weak link?

 

[Anton]

In ANY combination in life, the combination is only as strong as the WEAKEST link.
Combo a poly to a syn gut, what is the weak link?
Combo a poly to gut, what is the weak link?

Gut naturally releases friction reducing oils as it gets cut into, so it's possible for it to last longer than un-lubricated cross string

 

[LeeD]

I didn't specifically address gut. While what you say is true, it's also true that gut doesn't embrace play in wet conditions, humid, or foggy. Durability is affected by weather, besides just repetitive hitting.

 

[gino]

Full-multi should hold tension the longest. Full poly will give you the most durability and shelf life, not tension maintenece

 

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Full-multi should hold tension the longest. Full poly will give you the most durability and shelf life, not tension maintenece

Maybe what i have experienced is just loss of tension then. Even though they were full poly they moved all over the place when i could tell they were about to snap. I have never actually timed or examined how long my strings last but this time i will.

 

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Silicone spray is the answer (spray into paper towel, and rub on cross strings every other outing).

What's this?

polyester will play almost like fresh stringjob until they pop, which will be about 2x as long as what you get now

If they're moving all over the place, haven't they lost the tension already?

I should say something though. It happens that some days i may take full cuts/hard swings at the ball in almost every opportunity i get during a match, but then the next time i play i may play with fear and not take big cuts at the ball. So it happens that the strings may be moving all over the place and seem very worn but they don't pop when i think they should, because i am playing with fear, so maybe this is why they sometimes last longer.

I'll have to play close attention this time, since i just re-strung my rackets.

 

[illzoni]

My son plays a Poly/SG hybrid. Some poly mains frayed SG crosses faster. Some poly mains were prone to premature notching. We experimented with many different strings before I settled on the current (Blackout/Forten Sweet). With this hybrid, the SG crosses fray a bit, but none have broken before the poly mains go dead.

My son's friend and sometimes practice match opponent has been playing full poly and having horrible notching of the mains. Don't know how they resolved (or if).

Both boys hit pretty heavy topspin and would be considered stringbreakers for their age.

It's pretty much impossible to set any absolute qualities to string types alone (poly, SG, etc).

 

[eelhc]

What is short for you? How many hours of play?

I have never actually timed it, but I would say a couple of days.

That's pretty vague... I'm not a string breaker but I'd be ecstatic if Poly lasted 48Hrs

Seriously... About how many hours of hitting in those 2 days? If you're a strong hitter ripping shots with heavy spin several hours a day I would not be surprised. Time to buy a stringing machine.

 

[Anton]

What's this?

It is silicone based lubricant spray (not to be confused with WD40's main product). Works great with polyester strings since they do not absorb it.

If they're moving all over the place, haven't they lost the tension already?

I should say something though. It happens that some days i may take full cuts/hard swings at the ball in almost every opportunity i get during a match, but then the next time i play i may play with fear and not take big cuts at the ball. So it happens that the strings may be moving all over the place and seem very worn but they don't pop when i think they should, because i am playing with fear, so maybe this is why they sometimes last longer.

I'll have to play close attention this time, since i just re-strung my rackets.

You want the strings to move, but also to snap BACK in place. Lubricant reduces friction and lets the strings move and snap back more freely with less friction damage.

If you hit a ball and your strings remain shifted significantly that indicates sub-par snapback which means youa re missing out on spin and the control that comes with it.

 

[TheWolverine]

It is silicone based lubricant spray (not to be confused with WD40's main product). Works great with polyester strings since they do not absorb it.

You want the strings to move, but also to snap BACK in place. Lubricant reduces friction and lets the strings move and snap back more freely with less friction damage.

If you hit a ball and your strings remain shifted significantly that indicates sub-par snapback which means youa re missing out on spin and the control that comes with it.

Doesn't this gunk up the balls?

 

[Anton]

Doesn't this gunk up the balls?

Haven't noticed anything like that.

It's pretty much a non-sticky clear coat, not really greasy like oil based lubricants.

 

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Well yesterday i tested the new strings. I don't even know which strings they are exactly, all i know is the mains are poly and the crosses something else.

I don't know if there are better strings out there or if it was the tension but it feels horrible. It's very hard to generate spin because it feels like the ball just bounces back on the stringed instead of the catching/cutting feeling i got with full poly.

Sure it feels "softer" and better, but i don't care about that if the spin is gone.

Here's a picture of the other racket, they're the same strings:

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[Anton]

Stop messing around and do it right.

Natural gut main with poly cross (for comfort and touch) or fully poly at low/mid tensoin with silicone (for low cost and durability).

 

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Stop messing around and do it right.

What do you mean? I didn't string my rackets, the guy i usually go to did, but i have never really talked about strings with him because i dont really think he knows much.

I'm outside the States so if i were over there then it would be another story.