Which level was higher at Wimbledon, 2010 Berdych or 2018 Anderson?

robthai

Professional
#1
Who would you pick and why? Both were disappointing in the finals but Anderson gets more of an excuse because he was fatigued after the Isner match.
 
#11
Berdych. Anderson struggled past Federer who even clearly hurting still should have beaten him, as well as Isner who I really figured was going to win that match...and even slightly against Monfils before he even got to Federer. Berdych was hitting bigger and playing bigger points better than Anderson did. His only blip was against Istomin..which was really a blip but Istomin is that guy who can play the match of a lifetime for one match than blow it big time.
 
#13
Federer was not injured at Wimbledon 2010.
Q. You beat him almost every time you played him. Was he any different?
ROGER FEDERER: Like I said, I think he was a bit more consistent than in the past. I lost to him in Miami this year, where it was a really tight match as well.
But from my end, obviously, you know, I'm unhappy with the way I'm playing. I couldn't play the way I wanted to play. You know, I am struggling with a little bit of a back and a leg issue. That just doesn't quite allow me to play the way I would like to play.
So it's frustrating, to say the least. Looking forward to some rest anyway.

Q. How do those physical things affect you the most?
ROGER FEDERER: Well, when you're hurting, it's just a combination of many things. You know, you just don't feel as comfortable. You can't concentrate on each and every point because you do feel the pain sometimes. And, uhm, yeah, then you tend to play differently than the way you want to play.
Under the circumstances I think I played a decent match, you know. But I've been feeling bad for the last two, three matches now. It's just not good and healthy to play under these kind of conditions, you know.
So if there's anything good about this it's I'm gonna get some rest, that's for sure.

Q. When did you first start feeling the problems?
ROGER FEDERER: Well, the leg came in the finals of Halle. That kind of never really quite got away from me. Came back a little bit after the first-round match, and then went away again and just kept creeping back sometimes during the matches.
The back's been feeling stiff the last five days, six days really badly. Also in the finals of Halle. It's just something that's been lingering on the grass. It's normal that the back tends to get stiff, you know, in the grass court season because you have to, uhm, go for many more lower shots.
I've had that for many years. I think many players have it. But it's not just not nice when it doesn't go away and you can't play freely. That's what I was missing today.

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This is why Berdych didn't vote for Fed at that year's Stefan Edberg Sportdmanship awards.
 
#15
Yeah he was. But knowing you, you probably think it was peak Federer going down two sets to love against Fall :rolleyes:

But then you weren't even following tennis back in 2015 let alone 2010 :laughing:
Federer was only 28 years old at Wimbledon 2010, a prime age to compete.
Source of his supposed injury?
 

abmk

Bionic Poster
#25
Berdych obviously. Beat a better Federer more easily.
Took care of Djokovic (albeit a below par Djokovic) pretty easily.

better groundstrokes, better mover, better returner.
only edge for Anderson is a better serve.
 
#26
Berdych. Nadal had the mental edge with his wars against Federer in 07-08 and Berdych didn't take the pressure well. Not that I think Berdych could have beaten Nadal but certainly better than straight set loss. Going 5 sets wouldn't have surprised me if his head was right.
 

ibbi

Hall of Fame
#27
I think that Berdych would beat this Anderson handily. Still, comparing run for run it's a tough one. Picking against the guy who beat Federer and Djokovic (that's last years champion, and next years champion) back to back for the loss of a set seems silly, and he had a hell of a win against a very game Istomin too, but overall Anderson may have had the tougher run.

Seppi and Kohli may not be what they once were, but they're both super experienced players both happy on grass, who certainly aren't going to give you anything for free, Monfils also may not be what he once was, and grass may be his kryptonite historically, but he had knocked off a couple of very comfortable grass courters, and that match between him and Kev was probably the highlight of the first week. Beating Federer was obviously big, but as far as the semi final is concerned it's probably a mark against him that he didn't win it sooner. I don't think the fatigue argument for the performance in the final is very good either considering his opponent played almost 3 sets worth of tennis just the day before.

I give the edge to Berdy. His runs at Roland Garros and Wimbledon that year were so bad ass. If I had never watched him play tennis again I'd probably consider myself a fan.
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
#28
Imagine if Berdych had gone on to win the final? He would have been the only guy in history to beat each of the Big 3 back to back to take the Wimbledon title. Given that they were the top 3 seeds and included the last 2 champions It would have gone down in history as one of the best Wimbledon wins ever, if not the best!!
 
#29
Imagine if Berdych had gone on to win the final? He would have been the only guy in history to beat each of the Big 3 back to back to take the Wimbledon title. It would have gone down in history as one of the best Wimbledon wins ever, if not the best!!
He’d still be a meme though.
 
#33
Q. You beat him almost every time you played him. Was he any different?
ROGER FEDERER: Like I said, I think he was a bit more consistent than in the past. I lost to him in Miami this year, where it was a really tight match as well.
But from my end, obviously, you know, I'm unhappy with the way I'm playing. I couldn't play the way I wanted to play. You know, I am struggling with a little bit of a back and a leg issue. That just doesn't quite allow me to play the way I would like to play.
So it's frustrating, to say the least. Looking forward to some rest anyway.

Q. How do those physical things affect you the most?
ROGER FEDERER: Well, when you're hurting, it's just a combination of many things. You know, you just don't feel as comfortable. You can't concentrate on each and every point because you do feel the pain sometimes. And, uhm, yeah, then you tend to play differently than the way you want to play.
Under the circumstances I think I played a decent match, you know. But I've been feeling bad for the last two, three matches now. It's just not good and healthy to play under these kind of conditions, you know.
So if there's anything good about this it's I'm gonna get some rest, that's for sure.

Q. When did you first start feeling the problems?
ROGER FEDERER: Well, the leg came in the finals of Halle. That kind of never really quite got away from me. Came back a little bit after the first-round match, and then went away again and just kept creeping back sometimes during the matches.
The back's been feeling stiff the last five days, six days really badly. Also in the finals of Halle. It's just something that's been lingering on the grass. It's normal that the back tends to get stiff, you know, in the grass court season because you have to, uhm, go for many more lower shots.
I've had that for many years. I think many players have it. But it's not just not nice when it doesn't go away and you can't play freely. That's what I was missing today.

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This is why Berdych didn't vote for Fed at that year's Stefan Edberg Sportdmanship awards.
TIL
 

NKDM

Professional
#34
Imagine if Berdych had gone on to win the final? He would have been the only guy in history to beat each of the Big 3 back to back to take the Wimbledon title. Given that they were the top 3 seeds and included the last 2 champions It would have gone down in history as one of the best Wimbledon wins ever, if not the best!!
Murray fans around here seem to be the best. (Or perhaps Mainad is the casting his glow on fellow SirMurr fans) :)

Imagine contributing reasonably to discussions while your guy has been out of the game for a good bit!

Tip of the hat to you sir/madam.
 

King No1e

Hall of Fame
#36
Imagine if Berdych had gone on to win the final? He would have been the only guy in history to beat each of the Big 3 back to back to take the Wimbledon title. Given that they were the top 3 seeds and included the last 2 champions It would have gone down in history as one of the best Wimbledon wins ever, if not the best!!
Epicness meter would explode if Berdych had stopped Nadal. But unlikely, because Bull was a cut above the other two in those days.
 
#37
Birdman has better game for Grass. He should have better serve but his flat shots are well directed and slide through.
Anderson is more about big serve and solid at baseline.
 
#39
Imagine if Berdych had gone on to win the final? He would have been the only guy in history to beat each of the Big 3 back to back to take the Wimbledon title. Given that they were the top 3 seeds and included the last 2 champions It would have gone down in history as one of the best Wimbledon wins ever, if not the best!!
Would have been sick. King Rafa tho :p
 
#40
Q. You beat him almost every time you played him. Was he any different?
ROGER FEDERER: Like I said, I think he was a bit more consistent than in the past. I lost to him in Miami this year, where it was a really tight match as well.
But from my end, obviously, you know, I'm unhappy with the way I'm playing. I couldn't play the way I wanted to play. You know, I am struggling with a little bit of a back and a leg issue. That just doesn't quite allow me to play the way I would like to play.
So it's frustrating, to say the least. Looking forward to some rest anyway.

Q. How do those physical things affect you the most?
ROGER FEDERER: Well, when you're hurting, it's just a combination of many things. You know, you just don't feel as comfortable. You can't concentrate on each and every point because you do feel the pain sometimes. And, uhm, yeah, then you tend to play differently than the way you want to play.
Under the circumstances I think I played a decent match, you know. But I've been feeling bad for the last two, three matches now. It's just not good and healthy to play under these kind of conditions, you know.
So if there's anything good about this it's I'm gonna get some rest, that's for sure.

Q. When did you first start feeling the problems?
ROGER FEDERER: Well, the leg came in the finals of Halle. That kind of never really quite got away from me. Came back a little bit after the first-round match, and then went away again and just kept creeping back sometimes during the matches.
The back's been feeling stiff the last five days, six days really badly. Also in the finals of Halle. It's just something that's been lingering on the grass. It's normal that the back tends to get stiff, you know, in the grass court season because you have to, uhm, go for many more lower shots.
I've had that for many years. I think many players have it. But it's not just not nice when it doesn't go away and you can't play freely. That's what I was missing today.

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This is why Berdych didn't vote for Fed at that year's Stefan Edberg Sportdmanship awards.

This is why the sportsmanship award is a joke because it's not great sportsmanship to have excuses after every loss. I didn't even know he said this but I'm not surprised because this guy can never take a loss without having a log of excuses everytime. It has been what he has done his whole career. He is the worst loser among the top players I can think of.
 
#41
This is why the sportsmanship award is a joke because it's not great sportsmanship to have excuses after every loss. I didn't even know he said this but I'm not surprised because this guy can never take a loss without having a log of excuses everytime. It has been what he has done his whole career. He is the worst loser among the top players I can think of.
Yeah, it was a joke to give the sportsmanship award to RAFA that year.
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
#44
Murray fans around here seem to be the best. (Or perhaps Mainad is the casting his glow on fellow SirMurr fans) :)

Imagine contributing reasonably to discussions while your guy has been out of the game for a good bit!

Tip of the hat to you sir/madam.
Thank you. I have and will always be above all a tennis fan whichever player has taken my current fancy. :)
 
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