Which matchup has been more lopsided?

[fedfan24]

Fed was in prime till 2018 AO. He was already taken over H2H by Nole in 2016 itself before going away.

Nole can't be accused to duck Federer either because fed was out for most of 2016 and Djokovic was out for just half of 2017. And fed skipped 2017 and 2018 clay season.

So by 2016 AO the slam H2H was 9-6.
Djokovic lead 2-1 in Wimby
3-3 in USO was a wash
1-1 rg was too low a volume. Fed skipped 2016 RG as well.
3-1 in ao was already high.

Djokovic lead in 2 slams.
Federer lead in 0 slams.

Also if Wimby 2019 and AO 20 are to be removed then AO 2007 should also be removed. Djokovic was 38 ranked player then. He was barely Djokovic.

if you started watching tennis in 2015, sure.

 

[Lauren_Girl']

Nadal has beat Djokovic at Wimbledon, in the 2007 semi final.

11-7 to Nadal in matches in majors is also a fact. When that's pointed out, they want to discard clay as if it doesn't matter. It's ridiculous.

So that's all you have? A withdrawal example?

By surfaces:
Hard courts slams : Djokovic 3-2
Grass : Djokovic 2-1, 2-0 in complete matches
Clay : Nadal 8-2, 7-2 in complete matches.

Djokovic wins 2 surfaces. 3 if we count indoors. Nadal wins 1.

If we compare the surfaces, Djokovic wins the battle every day.

Now if you really want to know what's more lopsided, just ask yourself WHY Djokodal have so few matches in Australia and Wimbledon, Djokovic's 2 favorite slams and Nadal's least favorites.

What's better for Nadal? Losing in AO or Winbledon in epic finals against Nole?
Or losing to mugs like Brown, Rosol, Pouille, Darcis, Fognini or Mcdonald in early rounds of these slams?

11-7 means nothing when the player with 11 wins repeatedly gets upset by low-ranked players in the early stages of his rival's 2 favorite slams. Djokovic made it TEN times to Nadal in Nadal's pet slam.

10 matches in RG. 10 matches in Rome. 8-2 and 7-3.

2 matches in Australia. 1 match in Bercy. 2-0 and 1-0.

Reminder than clay represents less than 30% of the whole season and yet half of their h2h happened on clay. If you really want the h2h to be a meaningful argument in this debate, then we'll talk about it if and when they'll have 70% of matches on other surfaces.

The Slam h2h will be more telling if they play 10 times in Australia and Wimbledon. As long as we have 10/18 in RG, this h2h doesn't show who is the best slam player...

 

[kevaninho]

He got banned in 2022. Banned. Nadal won in 2022.

He skipped first ever slam in his career in 2017 and Nadal played vs ridiculous opposition on his way to the title.

2019 is one good win he has. As he never was making to Djokovic in slams we have to go out of slams ONLY. But you keep bringing only slam results.

Miami kept him titleless
ATP finals kept him titleless
Australian open kept him titleless until Djokovic was banned

You never answered my question LOL Then you throw out silly replies like this, cos youve been proven wrong.

 

[nolefam_2024]

You never answered my question LOL Then you throw out silly replies like this, cos youve been proven wrong.

What SILLY
Djokovic was in most of the finals and still ZERO meetings with Nadal.

 

[Neptune]

When both in Top2
Nole-Rafa HC 8-1
Rafa-Nole CC 5-3

 

[Neptune]

What SILLY
Djokovic was in most of the finals and still ZERO meetings with Nadal.

AO+UO: Nole-Rafa 0 R1-SF FO: Nole-Rafa 3QF+4SF
do you see the draw rigging for Rafa and against Nole?

 

[kevaninho]

When both in Top2
Nole-Rafa HC 8-1
Rafa-Nole CC 5-3

Right, so it only matters when they were in the top 2 . The rest of their matches dont count?

I wonder about some peoples mental state, the nonsense they post on here.

 

[Neptune]

Right, so it only matters when they were in the top 2 . The rest of their matches dont count?

I wonder about some peoples mental state, the nonsense they post on here.

Get a mirror and take a good look.

Don't you see that it's a compelling statistic when comparing peaks?

 

[kevaninho]

Get a mirror and take a good look.

Don't you see that it's a compelling statistic when comparing peaks?

What about Nadals peak in 2008? Does that not count?

 

[rUDin 21]

That's a problem with Djoker fans. They ignore the different weigh of each tournament and players are not always in-form all the time.

Throwing out numbers alone is useless without context

Definition of Fed fan circa 2009.

 

[TMF]

Definition of Fed fan circa 2009.

The majority of fans believe 2009 had a strong field(except ultronians)

 

[Milanez82]

They met so many times during Nadal's worst ever period on clay. Djokovic on the other hand never really showed up when out of form. Against Federer as well. He always made sure to lose earlier.

One has to be dumb to believe any of Big 3 ever made sure to lose, if they had that attitude they would never reach the heights they did.

 

[coolcamden]

Novak over Monfils
Swiatek over Coco.