Which NextGen copied Fed's forehand?

zill

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Rublev and Tsitsipas copied Del Po's forehand

Felix Auger Aliassime and Alcaraz copied Nadal's forehand

Which NextGen copied Fed's forehand???
 

zill

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I was looking for some real NextGen's. Like NextGen full stop. Not "NextGen compared to Fed".
 

Zoid

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Rublev and Tsitsipas copied Del Po's forehand

Felix Auger Aliassime and Alcaraz copied Nadal's forehand

Which NextGen copied Fed's forehand???
To be fair Rublev and Tsitsipas haven't copied Delpo at all. Delpo had an eastern grip, extended wrist on take back pointing to 12 o'clock. It's typical modern. Both Rublev and Tsitsi have a more flexed wrist in take back (Rublev also isn't anywhere near eastern grip), and both don't use gravity on the take back nearly as well. typically closer to nextgen,

ALcaraz I would say is a hybrid between Nadal and Fed. Less Whip than Rafa, it's a little more reminiscent of early federer's more laid back/extended take back. But again, I don't think he has endeavoured to copy them, he just has the characteristics of a modern forehand (extended wrist and gravity take back).

Felix perhaps has a similar set up to Nadal circa 08, but again it's his own.

The closest I have seen is Grigor modelling Federer.
 

zill

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To be fair Rublev and Tsitsipas haven't copied Delpo at all. Delpo had an eastern grip, extended wrist on take back pointing to 12 o'clock. It's typical modern. Both Rublev and Tsitsi have a more flexed wrist in take back (Rublev also isn't anywhere near eastern grip), and both don't use gravity on the take back nearly as well. typically closer to nextgen,

ALcaraz I would say is a hybrid between Nadal and Fed. Less Whip than Rafa, it's a little more reminiscent of early federer's more laid back/extended take back. But again, I don't think he has endeavoured to copy them, he just has the characteristics of a modern forehand (extended wrist and gravity take back).

Felix perhaps has a similar set up to Nadal circa 08, but again it's his own.

The closest I have seen is Grigor modelling Federer.
They all tried to copy or at least learn the forehand but ended up looking a bit differently off course. They couldn't control the exact details of the stroke off course but you can see the intention clearly is what I am saying in the OP.
 

Zoid

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They all tried to copy or at least learn the forehand but ended up looking a bit differently off course. They couldn't control the exact details of the stroke off course but you can see the intention clearly is what I am saying in the OP.
No that's my point, you can't clearly see intention. Just because a player has a characteristic of two of another player doesn't mean they copied that player, all they have done is learn the same kind of forehand (e.g. modern or nextgen) and then it differs by degree because everyone's body is different.

If I teach a young player to use an extended wrist with a high take back it's going to look like a lot of pro players, even if the junior has never seen them before.
 

zill

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No that's my point, you can't clearly see intention. Just because a player has a characteristic of two of another player doesn't mean they copied that player, all they have done is learn the same kind of forehand (e.g. modern or nextgen) and then it differs by degree because everyone's body is different.

If I teach a young player to use an extended wrist with a high take back it's going to look like a lot of pro players, even if the junior has never seen them before.
Well Tsitsipas' dad have admitted Tsitsipas copied the Del Potro forehand as a junior.
 

vex

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Rublev and Tsitsipas copied Del Po's forehand

Felix Auger Aliassime and Alcaraz copied Nadal's forehand

Which NextGen copied Fed's forehand???
None of them really. Which is kinda crazy when u think about it
 
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