Which player over the past 20 years wasted his talent?

Elite

Semi-Pro
Nalbandian is a good one, as is Baghdatis. I also think Verdasco has an immeasurable amount of talent, but lacks the drive and dedication. Same can be applied to Monfils, too.
 

RodSmooth

Professional
Thanks for backing me up Sid, I'm sure you'll agree with me that talents like Isner are 1 in a billion. In fact the only thing that needs to be banned is backhands, they level the playing field for guys like Djoker Murray who can now compete with Isner.

Lol. Banning backhands lol?

What if they banned serves? Isner wouldn't have made it passed he 1st round at a future back when he started.
 

90's Clay

Banned
If you think his performance in the 2009 Wimbledon finals shows a lack of mental toughness, then you should really reconsider being a tennis fan.

:shock:

Roddick had EVERY chance in the world to win that match. Of course, he can't put away a simple damn volley
 
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BauerAlmeida

Hall of Fame
Other than the obvious Nalbandian and Safin I would go with Coria. He would be a serious FO contender for years if it wasn't for that one bad loss in the 2004 FO final. Had a couple of decent runs (especially in the Masters on clay the year after) but virtually dissapeared from the scene of tennis at the age of what 22-23?

Agree with these 3.

I would add Baghdatis and Haas too. Allthough Haas' main problem were injuries and I don't know if that falls in the "underachieving" category.
 

tudwell

G.O.A.T.
:shock:

Roddick had EVERY chance in the world to win that match. Of course, he can't put away a simple damn volley

He missed one shot he maybe should have made. It cost him the second set, and then what did he do? He battled on and held serve every single game until he was down 14-15 in the fifth set. Who else has done something like that? I know he lost in the end, but he fought with his heart and soul and gave it everything he had and he never let up. You look at one single point that he lost, but if he really lacked mental toughness he would have faded after losing that second set tiebreak.
 

pound cat

G.O.A.T.
Safin did not waste his talent. I don't see how winning 2 slams, beating the two greatest players ever (let's not start a GOAT debate) in both as well as making two finals, winning a handful of MS titles and 2 DC's whilst having 2 career threatening (one of which was pretty much career ending) injuries in 03 and mid 05 whilst having niggling injuries here and their (plus blisters throughout 2004). This was basically before he was 25. the guy did amazingly well to do the crap he did (beat peak Federer/kill Sampras/Beat Agassi and Kuerten at FO/straight set Djokovic at W08 etc).


He did exactly what he wanted to do and through it all he had a really good time and made a lot of money.
 
Yeah, but IMHO Roddick would have won 1 or 2 more US Open or Wimbledon
if they did not slow down courts in 2003-2004. Also new heavy ball did not help him.

But I have tremendeous respect for him. He consciously changed his game
into more consistent one and tried his best for a decade in tour environment
that is changing unfavorable to him. Same goes with Mardy Fish who changed
hsi S&V game to baseline and tried his best in this slow environment.

Totally 100% agree.

Everyone thought Roddick was on his way out when his serve suddenly dropped in pace from the high 140's. It was purely because of those courts. I've read on forums here that he changed his racquet specs back in 2006 to be more spin friendly for the slowed courts and heavier balls. And it did work to some degree. Making wimbledon finals against federer. But the slow stuff did not suit his game. He did everything he could. In the end, he was just very very unlucky. Blake too.
 
He missed one shot he maybe should have made. It cost him the second set, and then what did he do? He battled on and held serve every single game until he was down 14-15 in the fifth set. Who else has done something like that? I know he lost in the end, but he fought with his heart and soul and gave it everything he had and he never let up. You look at one single point that he lost, but if he really lacked mental toughness he would have faded after losing that second set tiebreak.

Volleys are harder to put away when your racquet is Polarised (spin friendly) in setup. He could when he was younger (before 2006) because his racquet was depolarised (flat penetration).

Sources:

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=95306

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=309803
 

THUNDERVOLLEY

G.O.A.T.
I swear to god if I see Safin's name appear in this thread I will start WW3.......

Okay--yes, Safin won majors, but I think he did not live up to his potential. He was part of some of the top 10...or top 5 most tense, exciting men's matches of the 2000s, where his underestimated skill set was on full display.

I thought he had--at least--3 more majors in him. So, on that note, I add him here because his mind "wasted" his talent as much as injury prevented him from becoming the third great force of the generation.
 

Flash O'Groove

Hall of Fame
But Coria went out with service yips; it's not like he messed around or was completely unmotivated like Agassi and Safin iirc...

Yes you are right, it was not his fault. But the disappearance of Coria had a huge effect on the tennis landscape: it allowed Nadal and Federer to thrive with ease on clay, until Djokovic nearly bothered them.
 

Anaconda

Hall of Fame
Okay--yes, Safin won majors, but I think he did not live up to his potential. He was part of some of the top 10...or top 5 most tense, exciting men's matches of the 2000s, where his underestimated skill set was on full display.

I thought he had--at least--3 more majors in him. So, on that note, I add him here because his mind "wasted" his talent as much as injury prevented him from becoming the third great force of the generation.

2001-2002 - had various injury problems
2003 - wrist injury (misses most of 2003)
2004 - blisters throughout nearly the whole year on his hands
2005 - Knee injury.

His career ended in 2005, think about it, the guy was 25 at that time, had horrific injury problems as well as other injury problems and in that short space of time managed to have time to kill Sampras at will, beat up on Agassi, beat Guga at FO, be the only guy who took out a prime Federer on the hard court slams at AO 2005, win 2 Davis Cups as well as taking 5 MS titles. Mate, the guy did super considering he could barely play tennis after 2006 even though he made the SF at Wimbledon 2008. I don't think anyone else could have done what Safin did with such an injury plagued career. Some say it was because of his talent (and hard work in the off season) he was able to do what he did.



Safin is the most obvious answer. He should have won MULTIPLE slams and taken his piece of the pie away from Federer. Yet was nowhere to be found a good majority of the time between 2000 USO-AO 2005.


Honorable mention to:

Rios
Stich
Nalbandian





You clearly haven't even stepped on a tennis court much less held a racket, but I'll bite. If you can't step foot on court, how the hell are you going to win many slams? The only year Safin could have done better was 2002, but his attitude was awful, that one year doesn't change anything for me in terms of accomplishments because it's clearly obvious he's a great player.





have you played tennis with blisters?

have you played carrying a wrist injury?



Secondly, your post on Roddick is absolutely absurd; Roddick's movement was very good, he was very light on his feet and his defensive play was pretty good too; Come 2005 it had to be since he decided to hit 0 winners. How on earth was his baseline game weak? The guy was capable of hitting some of the biggest forehands I've ever seen and gets games where he hits 4 forehands winners against the games elite. the only reason Roddick changed his FH mechanics was because he wanted to play up the court so he had to loop his forehand more consistently than driving it due to a longer, explosive motion.




Yes, indeed, Roddick was truly a poor ass player who couldn't volley, move, hit a BH, hit a FH and had an overrated serve as well as being a poor big match player. What the hell are all the other 'slamless' players in the world doing then if a chump like Roddick can win a slam, 5 MS titles, DC, 30 + titles, 10 years in the top 10.



Get a clue, you child.
 

Ace of Aces

Semi-Pro
Gasquet, Monfils, Tsonga, Mahut, Benneteau, Chardy, Mathieu, Grosjean, Santoro... In other words, the French :oops: (beautiful games, catastrophic mental, too bad)

What talent did Santoro have?

His shots didn't register on radar and he was still somewhat sussesful.
 

Relinquis

Hall of Fame
santoro could do things to a ball that no other player would dare to do in competition...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1au7y4rUOM

Watch the first 30 seconds, then jump to 2:30 and continue from there... Bare in mind who is across teh court from him!

Guy had skill, movement, hand eye... everything you could call "talent".
 
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