Which player will be the older slam winner, Federer or Nadal?

tennis_commentator

Hall of Fame
Federer won a slam shortly before his 31st Birthday (he turned 31 in August 2012 but won Wimbledon in July).
Nadal turns 29 in June 2015.

(no point including a poll, because you'll just vote for your favorite)

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Sysyphus

Talk Tennis Guru
Federer will always be the older slam-winner of the two, as long as he is alive, by about 5 years. ;-)
 

tennis_commentator

Hall of Fame
Federer was not a slam winner in 2011, 2013 and 2014.
Nadal has been a slam winner in every year since 2005.

Nadal turns 31 in 2017.
We know Nadal will be especially keen to be in top form in 2016, because the Olympics is on clay.
 

zam88

Professional
Depends on if any player worth a crap on clay can emerge.



Honestly I thought about this.. Federer's one slam where he lost to an unworthy opponent (Del Potro) was in 2009, he proceeded to win the very next slam, but then didn't win any of the next 9 slams before wimbledon '12... which given how the next 9 slams have gone after that one (no wins, one final) almost seems like a bit of a fluke.

Nadal had his one slam where he lost to an unworthy opponent (Wawrinka) and proceeded to win the next slam the FO, but then got upset and then injured, and isn't really fit for this tournament.... Will their careers parallel? Is Nadal getting ready to finally go on a big drought?
 

tennis_commentator

Hall of Fame
Will their careers parallel? Is Nadal getting ready to finally go on a big drought?

The lowest percentage thing you could possibly do is compare Nadal and Federer's careers.
These guys are polar opposites in just about every aspect on and off the court.

Nadal was an early-bloomer on clay, and now appears to be peaking on hardcourt (2013 he swept the entire American hardcourt season, first man since 2003 Roddick to achieve it).
Whereas Federer finished peaking on every surface many years ago.

And Nadal is better after an injury layoff than he is after continuous play (not surprising, because his body carries niggling injuries that need repair).
Whereas Federer carries niggling injuries and doesn't take a break, and pays the price (2013).

Polar opposites, virtually no parallels.
 

tipsa...don'tlikehim!

Talk Tennis Guru
Probably Federer.

But Nadal won grand slams between 2005 to 2014, still counting. While Federer won in 2003 and last one in 2012 but failed to win any in 2011.
 

tennis_commentator

Hall of Fame
“The fact that the Olympic Games will be on clay gives me a little bit of extra motivation. Representing my country at an Olympic Games, at Beijing 2008, was one of the greatest moments of my career.” -Nadal
 

Stratsworth

Rookie
We know Nadal will be especially keen to be in top form in 2016, because the Olympics is on clay.

Who told you that the Olympics is on clay?

Nadal, but I don't have the link.
This forum spoke about it when he said it, old news.

Nadal told you?! Awesome. Please tell him Stratsworth says hi (and to respectfully speed up his time between points :wink:)

Rafa assumed that it would be on clay when he made that statement during the Rio '14 WT. Maybe his team has insider info, who knows. As far as I know there hasn't been an official statement. I do know that this statement is still on the Rio16 website:

“Besides the possibility of hosting great sporting events, the general public will also be able to use the courts later”, Walter Russo, Rio 2016 Group Sport Manager responsible for Tennis, explained.

He also pointed out that the Olympic tournament will be held on fast courts and that it will be worth 1,000 points in the international circuit and, regarding this, it is only less than what the four Grand Slam tournaments award.

The Olympic Games will be celebrated in August when the international calendar has great fast court tournaments and that is another positive point. All the world's greatest players will be here”, he said.


It would certainly make sense if Rio was played on clay. The previous Olympics were held on hard, followed by grass. Kuerten, a three time FO winner, is from Brazil. South America is known for its tennis being played primarily on clay. Too bad it's so boring... :)

My bet is that it will be held on neutral HC.
 

jg153040

G.O.A.T.
Federer of course. If Nadal will win any slam, it will be RG, but clay doesn't count on this forum, for some reason.
 

BGod

G.O.A.T.
I really don't think Nadal can just keep pounding away on clay like so many.

I think he'll retire after next season. Although maybe if he's sitting at 16 Slams and Federer is still at 17 he might give it one more year, but if he just wins the French this season and loses it in 16 and doesn't win at the Olympics, I think he'll just stick with his 15 Majors and call it a career.
 

ultradr

Legend
Nadal won slams since 18. So slam winning years approaching all time longest (consecutive, 10 years).
So he is already pushing the limit and probably nearing the end.

It also depends on tour environment.

For Federer, generation of Nadal-Djokovic has been strong. But for Nadal and Djokovic,
generation of Nishikori Raonic is not as strong, IMHO. For that matter, Nadal Djokovic
has more time frame, probably until Thiem generation takes over.

Other example is Agassi and Sampras. Tour went baseline on slower surfaces toward the end of their career.
That shortened up Sampras career IMHO while Agassi could hang around more with his great baseline forte...
 
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augustobt

Legend
If the show is not ready, it will all come back to London and Wimbledon, on grass. That is not totally implausible, and is in the contract.
Trust me, that's more probable than anything... the work in rio is really, really slow. They haven't even started to build the olympic tennis center.
 

tennis_commentator

Hall of Fame
Nadal won slams since 18. So slam winning years approaching all time longest (consecutive, 10 years).
So he is already pushing the limit and probably nearing the end.

Yep Nadal has won slams for 10 years in a row (2005-2013), going for 11 years in a row now.
The next best is Federer with 8 years in a row.

Nadal swept the US hardcourt season in 2013 (first man since 2003) and is about to lift the 2015 AO trophy.
This is the start of Nadal's hardcourt prime, and the end of Djokovic (I think the last hardcourt slam Djokovic won was January 2013).
 
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